Talk:Allyship

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Note on this page, June 2020

Hi to any of the eager editors who come and sometimes delete new pages or refactor them etc... In this case, there are no academic references, but I am working through those. There are really a large, large number of such references in the literature, but the key is integrating what they say into the Wikipedia neutral point of view. It seems the literature in this field is either advocating these approaches, or criticizing them... so the key will be synthesizing this in a completely neutral tone for Wikipedia without engaging in original research or claims. Cleopatran Apocalypse (talk) 08:30, 9 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

What is the difference, if any, between 'allyship' and 'alliance'?

The word 'ally' is derived from the word 'alliance'. Therefore someone practicing being an 'ally' would ordinarily be in an 'alliance' and the word 'allyship' would be superfluous at best and misleading at worst. Are there legitimate reasons (and often there may be) to create a whole new word? What it is it about the new word that conveys concepts and ideas that the old word does not? What is it about the old word (a derivative of a component of the new word) that is inadequate or fails in concept? TreebeardTheEnt (talk) 22:50, 24 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

That’s a good question; it’s one which I’m not sure about either, and was one of the main answers I was hoping to learn by reading this article.

Personally, I’ve always assumed it was a portmanteau of “alliance” (or “ally”) and “membership” — i.e. meaning to imply that someone is actively aligned with a given organization or cause, rather than just a passive supporter — since it has many of the typical hallmarks of a portmanteau-type neologism. However, I don’t have any sources to back up (or contradict) that claim, and so I actually just started a new topic on this talk page requesting sources regarding this. - Mojace (talk) 14:08, 30 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Incorrect date on reference #19

The date on reference #19 incorrectly shows the latest correction date for the article: its edit date is November 22, 2021. The retrieval date is irrelevant and misleading.

Why are retrieval dates used instead of publish dates when publish dates are available for many of these references, not just #19? 2603:8000:7F00:7131:2DCC:D629:9C8A:1533 (talk) 20:09, 16 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Clarifying allyship vs. alliance? (Request for sources for potential new section/subsection)

I came to this article hoping for some clarification regarding the distinction between “allyship” and the term “alliance” more broadly. My impression has always been that “allyship” was a portmanteau of some sort (along the lines of “ally/alliance” + “membership”), but I don’t want to just add an unsourced claim like that to the article. Is there anyone who could perhaps find a reliable source or two re the origin of this term and the ways in which it’s distinct from “alliance”? - Mojace (talk) 13:52, 30 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]