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777 New Cabins

on air India 777s, add “All to be refitted to latest generation cabins by 2022”.

VT ALW and ALX are the late gen cabin 777s.

Please change $840 to $180,000 in the "As Tata Air Services" section

″In its first year of operation, the airline flew 160,000 miles (260,000 km), carrying 155 passengers and 9.72 tonnes (10.71 tons) of mail and made a profit of ₹60,000 (US$840).″

₹60,000 in 2020 is about $840 but ₹60,000 in 1932 was approximately $160,000. The Rupee back then was pegged to the Pound @ 1 GBP = 13.33 INR. The USD to GBP exchange rate in 1932 was ~ 1 USD = 0.2 GBP (http://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/Tables_of_historical_exchange_rates_to_the_United_States_dollar).

So ₹60,000 in 1932 would be 60,000 ÷ 13.33 x 0.2 = $159,960 which we can round off to $160,000 (roughly $3 million in 2020 dollars).

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 21 February 2021

I will add codeshares agreements on Air India destinations section, as someone remove last year. I will also add a reliable sources. :)) Corner2002 (talk) 05:41, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

Not done: This is not the right page to request additional user rights. You may reopen this request – by setting the answered parameter in the {{edit extended-protected}} template back to no – with the specific changes to be made and someone will add them for you. Regards, DesertPipeline (talk) 05:47, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
Please mention what should be changed in the format of "change X to Y" with the reliable sources you mention provided before reactivating your edit request. Otherwise, nobody can do anything about it. Regards, DesertPipeline (talk) 10:55, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
(Or in this case, as you just want to add information, provide the verbatim text you want to be inserted into the article here, with sources, and mention where in the article it should go.) DesertPipeline (talk) 11:25, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

Link/sources: https://flights.staralliance.com/en/members-codeshare http://www.airindia.in/2-star-alliance-partner-code-share.htm http://www.airindia.in/code-share-partners.htm

Here it is, in Destinations section, below the Alliance. :DD thanks a lot Corner2002 (talk) 12:33, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

 Note: I've reactivated your request; thank you for providing the information. Hopefully someone who can verify this will respond soon. Regards, DesertPipeline (talk) 15:20, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

Awesome. And yeah.. thanks! Corner2002 (talk) 16:12, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: I'm sorry - but I'm not sure this proposed list would be necessary for the reader (it only contains a somewhat indiscriminate collection of links). The list only uses primary sources - so I'm not sure it is notable. P,TO 19104 (talk) (contribs) 00:03, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 3 June 2021 (2)

Update revenue to - ₹28,524.44 crore(US$3.9 billion) (2020)[1] Profit - ₹7982.82 crore(US$1.1 billion) (2020) [2]

Thanks! Badassboy 63637 (talk) 11:30, 3 June 2021 (UTC)

 Not done for now: Other fields - operating income, Total assests, Total Equity, Profit will also have to align to the same year. So, revenue alone cannot be changed. — LeoFrank  Talk 12:39, 3 June 2021 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ http://www.airindia.in/images/pdf/Statemnt-of-profit-and-loss.pdf
  2. ^ http://www.airindia.in/images/pdf/Statemnt-of-profit-and-loss.pdf

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 1 October 2021

Vaisuraj78725 (talk) 06:41, 1 October 2021 (UTC)

Air india new owner is tata sons

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 11:00, 1 October 2021 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 1 October 2021 (2)

Air India is the flag carrier airline of India, headquartered at New Delhi.[1] It was a government owned enterprise, which is now owned by Tata Group.[2] Niversal (talk) 07:47, 1 October 2021 (UTC)

 Not done for now: Not officially done yet. who asked not to be identified as the decision isn’t yet public... A top bureaucrat in the ministry for Department of Investment and Public Asset Management Tuhin Kanta Pandey said the approval of Air India’s sale was incorrect. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 11:04, 1 October 2021 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ "Flying low; India's flag carrier is in big trouble". The Economist. 21 July 2012. Archived from the original on 23 June 2016. Retrieved 15 October 2016.
  2. ^ https://indianexpress.com/article/business/tata-sons-wins-air-india-in-historic-deal-7545597/

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 8 October 2021

Tata sons won the bid for acquiring air India on 8th October 2021 2402:3A80:A5A:7948:C2C3:2BAF:ED12:3287 (talk) 11:51, 8 October 2021 (UTC)

Have you a reliable source that the sale has been approved and completed ? MilborneOne (talk) 11:59, 8 October 2021 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 8 October 2021 (2)

I want to include the information of Tata acquiring Air India. Akhil34k (talk) 11:55, 8 October 2021 (UTC)

Have you a reliable source that the sale has been approved and completed ? MilborneOne (talk) 12:00, 8 October 2021 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 9 October 2021

[1]Air India Limited is a private Indian full-service airline, headquartered at New Delhi. It is owned by Air India Limited of Talace Private Limited, a SPV of Tata Sons, and operates a fleet of Airbus and Boeing aircraft serving 102 domestic and international destinations. --Niversal (talk) 07:09, 9 October 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. (I am not watching this page, so please ping me if you want my attention.) SSSB (talk) 10:02, 9 October 2021 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-58778274#:~:text=India's%20loss%20making%20national%20carrier,bn%20(%C2%A31.7bn).

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 16 October 2021

A straight forward edit request in the in flight experience section Partha Basak 06:51, 16 October 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Anon126 (notify me of responses! / talk / contribs) 07:02, 16 October 2021 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 13 October 2021

Change
"Air India is the flag carrier airline of India, headquartered at New Delhi.[8] It is owned by Air India Limited of Talace Private Limited, a Special-Purpose Vehicle (SPV) of Tata Sons, and operates a fleet of Airbus and Boeing aircraft serving 102 domestic and international destinations."
to
"Air India is the flag carrier airline of India, headquartered at New Delhi.[8] It is owned by the Government of India, which has approved the sale of Air India Limited to Talace Private Limited, a Special-Purpose Vehicle (SPV) of Tata Sons. The sale is expected to complete in December. Air India operates a fleet of Airbus and Boeing aircraft serving 102 domestic and international destinations."

[1] [2] edaguru (talk) 17:26, 13 October 2021 (UTC)

 Done. Heartmusic678 (talk) 12:44, 1 November 2021 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ https://www.livemint.com/companies/news/air-india-sale-government-issues-loi-to-tata-group-11633964488596.html
  2. ^ https://www.financialexpress.com/industry/air-india-sale-disinvestment-privatisation-live-bid-winner-winning-bidder-announcement-ratan-tata-ajay-singh/2346403/

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 27 October 2021

Dhinakaran 2007 (talk) 15:39, 27 October 2021 (UTC)
I would like to add the Chairman as Ratan Tata
@Dhinakaran 2007: Hello, this request is  Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Tata appears to be chairman emeritus of Tata Sons and the sale of Air India to Talace does not appear to have closed yet. I removed the duplicate requests from this page. Thanks, Heartmusic678 (talk) 13:03, 1 November 2021 (UTC)

Continents Served

In the text, the first paragraph says Air India caters over 60 International destinations across four continents. But it caters over 5 continents. 1.186.116.12 (talk) 10:14, 15 December 2021 (UTC)

Air india is a low cost carrier

Explain why air india is a low cost carrier 2409:4073:4D8C:711B:0:0:2B4A:2208 (talk) 08:50, 21 September 2022 (UTC)

The article doesn’t say that? Aaron Liu (talk) 14:41, 6 December 2022 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 20 November 2022

The info box says "Commenced operations 29 July 1946; 76 years ago". This is incorrect as per the original source cited.

Operations began on October 15, 1932 (as Tata Air Services). It was renamed Tata Airlines in 1938 and later Air India in 1946.

Source (B) is most comprehensive. Be sure to click 'Keep Reading' at the bottom of the page for the entire article. The video on the page, provided by Government of India also highlights the above information.

Sources: (A) India Times (Times of India) (B) Wings For A Nation - Tata Group (Most Comprehensive, Reliable Source) (C) Britannica (Original Source Cited) (D) Air India - Tata Group

Dhruv1710 (talk) 19:42, 20 November 2022 (UTC)

Hi Dhruv1710. The infobox already says when the group was founded above the "commenced operations" line. From what I can tell, in 1932, Air India did not yet exist, but the company that would become Air India did, therefore the company was founded, yet the operations of Air India had not yet started.
The article does go into the history of the company – in fact, the second paragraph of the article says the airline was founded by J. R. D. Tata as Tata Airlines in 1932, and that Tata himself flew its first single-engine de Havilland Puss Moth, carrying air mail. The 1932 date refers to when the company was founded (which had many different names), and the 1946 date refers to when the airline named "Air India" started operations.
You may also want to read Wikipedia's policy on primary sources (links B and D that you gave). TGHL ↗ 🍁 20:06, 1 December 2022 (UTC)
Also see WP:BRITANNICA Aaron Liu (talk) 14:41, 6 December 2022 (UTC)

Can Air India still be called national airline of India?

Since the ownership has been transferred can Air India still be called national airline of India? 110.224.133.102 (talk) 14:09, 29 January 2022 (UTC)

The article doesn’t say that? It merely says it’s the flag carrier which is correct Aaron Liu (talk) 14:42, 6 December 2022 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 4 February 2023

"Urination and Other Incidents" sounds extremely stupid to read by itself considering the entire page lacks content in the first place. Please change it to something more professional for an open-source page like "Civil Incidents" instead, and add more if you have to, otherwise, its existence seems really out of place considering there is always news about Air India and somehow only this was added; portrays the admins of this page in a feeble light after discussing it with multiple people. Ayush.N.Mathur (talk) 13:40, 4 February 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: the current heading is perfectly accurate and professional, especially considering that the media calls it "pee-gate.” small jars tc 13:51, 4 February 2023 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 31 March 2023

Move Mumbai from Secondary Hubs to Hubs Aroaryan1 (talk) 01:15, 31 March 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: no valid reason given for the change. M.Bitton (talk) 01:21, 31 March 2023 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 19 March 2023

I would like to add in the Mission Section of Air-India, one of the historic missions of bringing a live fire from Aden to India. The Holy Fire was brought from Aden to Lonavala in India by an Air-India plane having an all-Zoroastrian crew. The Fire was contained in a specially designed Aluminium safety container made by the Air-India Engineering Team. Flight No. AI-240 of 13-11-1976, Aircraft: LHOTSE, From Aden to Bombay.

Ruzbehraja (talk) 15:44, 19 March 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Actualcpscm (talk) 16:41, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
https://salute.co.in/fire-on-board-air-india-240-lhotse/
https://parsikhabar.net/heritage/aden-to-india-shifting-of-the-parsee-fire-temple/566/
https://www.academia.edu/37502746/The_Story_of_the_Parsis_in_Aden
https://peterpickering.wixsite.com/aden/parsi-temple Ruzbehraja (talk) 18:12, 28 April 2023 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 9 June 2023

Remove Maharajah Lounge at London Heathrow Airport - it no longer exists after Air India joined Star Alliance and moved to Terminal 2. Feroze0 (talk) 00:58, 9 June 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. DreamRimmer (talk) 13:02, 9 June 2023 (UTC)

Financials

The financial statement is in million rupees which is 10 lakhs or 0.1 crores. I think someone overestimated the asset value and profit . 122.149.24.232 (talk) 00:43, 30 July 2023 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 8 August 2023

The financial figures mentioned in summary at Wikipedia page is shown in crores, however if we look into the annual report the amount given is in million. Kindly correct the same. Nitinpa123 (talk) 18:19, 8 August 2023 (UTC)

 Done Edward-Woodrow :) [talk] 20:28, 8 August 2023 (UTC)

The images of the new Air India logo unveiled on August 10, 2023 have been added hastily in recent edits to this article and in an incomplete manner. Hence these edits must be reverted until the whole article is updated in a comprehensive manner. For example, under the heading 'Corporate affairs and identity', the text below the new logo still reads 'Current logo (since 2007)'. Similarly, the first paragraph under 'Logo and livery' describes the current branding, due to which the hasty addition of the new logo looks out of place and presents the article in poor light. It is also noteworthy that Air India is yet to apply the new branding in its official website and would start appearing in its aircraft fleet only starting December 2023. KeenHopper (talk) 18:29, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 13 August 2023

This language is painfully out of date: "As of May 2017, Air India is the third largest carrier in India (after IndiGo and Jet Airways), with a market share of 13%, but with the largest international network."


Given that it's no longer accurate, I think it should be removed. Avgeekamfot (talk) 11:16, 13 August 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: The page's protection level has changed since this request was placed. You should now be able to edit the page yourself. If you still seem to be unable to, please reopen the request with further details. Hyphenation Expert (talk) 20:19, 13 August 2023 (UTC)

Fleet Numbers

The Air India fleet article says that Air India has 130 aircraft with a given source, which is regularly updated. It is clear that Air India's own website is not. We can't have 2 articles on the wiki contradicting each other. Arnav Bhate (talk) 09:00, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

Normally, yes, there should be one fleet number. Air India website used to list the seat configuration and count, but alas, now the same is not available. In this case, the website which is the official source states the number as 128 whereas does not list the aircraft type with count. Because, that is the official version, I believe that should be the number listed. Other sources are self-proclaimed sources which vary across e.g. 1, 2. Even the source (1) which has been used for updating count in the Air India fleet article does not reflect the correct future orders. As the article mentions the discrepancy as a footnote, we should stick with the official number for the count (which is mentioned in the lead of the fleet article as well) unless we have a better uniform source which gives the correct number.Magentic Manifestations (talk) 10:06, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
Ok, but it may still be confusing for some. Arnav Bhate (talk) 10:42, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 10 February 2024

Fleet section does not include the new A350-900 Please add it 103.197.74.251 (talk) 18:47, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Sincerely, Guessitsavis (she/they) (Talk) 19:58, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

Add information about recruitment policy

Even though Air India was praised for hiring liberal, modern women as air hostesses in the early 1950s, it was accused of only hiring women of a certain caste and class.[1]

References

  1. ^ Nair, M. (2004). Making of “Hawaii Sundari”: Reflections on Air India’s Recruitment Policy. Economic and Political Weekly, 39(10), 1014–1016.

Semi-protected edit request on 21 April 2024

Correct Fleet Size & other Updates. 103.240.237.115 (talk) 19:32, 21 April 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Cannolis (talk) 19:49, 21 April 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 29 April 2024

Update customer care numbers to these:

India Customer Care Numbers: 0116 932 9333 0116 932 9999 1860 233 1407*

  • Call rates applicable as per your network provider

International Customer Care Numbers: +91 1169329333 +91 1169329999

International Call rates apply Sarthakk14 (talk) 10:16, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: Phone numbers aren't appropriate in an encyclopedia article. See WP:NOTDIRECTORY. Bestagon ⬡ 13:01, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 29 April 2024 (2)

Correct Website and Social Media Links

Website Link: www.airindia.com Instagram Link: https://www.instagram.com/airindia Facebook Link: https://www.facebook.com/AirIndia X: https://twitter.com/airindia LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/airindia Sarthakk14 (talk) 10:20, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: See above, non-encyclopedic content. Bestagon ⬡ 13:02, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

Air India IFE use

Ever since Air India added the A350 and leased ex-Delta 777-200s, they have started using the Panasonic ex3 IFE system in addition to their legacy product (i5000 on 777, i8000 on 787). The i3000 is used on the A319ceo and the A320ceo, but have been rendered inoperable a long time ago. They have also picked Thales' AVANT Up IFE to replace those on the legacy widebodies. Is this worth updating? Block345 (talk) 20:24, 19 May 2024 (UTC)

If you have sources, then yes. Arnav Bhate (talk) 10:16, 20 May 2024 (UTC)


Headquarters info

@Arnav Bhate: Welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for editing!

I have questions about this revert. Why was the information about the headquarters removed? Why was the editing content not good, in your view? Secondly, the usage of "its" is correct here while "it's" is not (because "it's" means "it is", and is not used for possessive forms)

Thank you, WhisperToMe (talk) 17:47, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

Your second point first, that was the change I kept. Coming to your first point, that information is unsuitable for the led, especially the first paragraph. More suitable, and while keeping it brief (perhaps only the building name), in the headquarters section. Arnav Bhate (talk • contribs) 17:56, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
I feel that the section is supposed to be not brief. It is supposed to go in detail about the company headquarters, the most important office that Air India has. It should go into detail about when Air India moved into the facility, the layout, how much the company is renting, etc. Additionally, the text is about the headquarters the company is using now in 2024, not some headquarters the company used back in the 1970s, so this text is very relevant in 2024. In my opinion, the text should be restored. WhisperToMe (talk) 17:59, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
Well then you are free to add it in the headquarters section. I will not revert that edit. Arnav Bhate (talk • contribs) 07:04, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

I wanted to add some extra info....

Air india recently started an IFE service like VistaraWorld, called "Vista". It is accesed via the on-board complimentary Vista wi-fi network. Wanted to add info about it. That is, Air India recently started a IFE Service on some of its new A320neos and some of its 787 Dreamliners. (Ref: https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/all-about-vista-air-indias-wireless-in-flight-entertainment-service-6384765). Therefore if somebody else can, do edit.The r-edittor (talk) 09:16, 18 August 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Adam Black talk • contribs 02:22, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
More clear now? I would say you can look it up yourself too, for extra confirmation. The r-edittor (talk) 10:47, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. Not clear. Please say exactly which sentence you would like changed and what exact language you want put in. meamemg (talk) 15:10, 12 September 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 10 October 2024

If you search on the Air India page, you will find a part related cargo operations where it is spelt as "Air Indian". Please change "Air Indian" to "Air India". KanishkB (talk) 07:08, 10 October 2024 (UTC)

 Done Arnav Bhate (talk • contribs) 08:56, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
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