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Inheritance to Abraham, or just descendents?

I see in the lead it says "which God now promises to Abraham and his progeny." As far as I am aware, and I briefly rechecked the story, the land is only promised to Abraham's descendants. This makes sense as Abraham himself never inherited the Land of Canaan that was promised to his descendants in Gen 12:7.

Please advise if I am incorrect about this. If not, I will change.

Thanks! XZealous (talk) 06:14, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Abraham's Appearance

This sentence, "The Bible describes him as an "older" person, and beardless" is attributed to one source. However, I think this statement is unfounded. The author of the source says that the Bible describes Abraham as beardless. This, in fact, is not the case. The Bible does not say either way. I also do not find the "beardless" claim in other sources. Any idea where the author got this from, and is it appropriate to include here in the article? XZealous (talk) 09:16, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Taking a second look at it, the author states "He was said to be clean-shaven." She is not attributing this to the Bible. The sentence in the article makes it seem as if the Bible calls Abraham beardless. Either way, this sentence should be changed or removed. XZealous (talk) 09:18, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. The cited source is a not a reliable source (in the Wikipeida sense of that term). So I have removed that part, and also the cite, replacing it with a "citation needed" for the remaining statement. Feline Hymnic (talk) 13:39, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! XZealous (talk) 11:37, 6 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

parents accoridng to talmud mother? rambam is talmud? and its written wrong uhh

the stuff idk 2A02:3100:3BDF:6A00:5483:55DD:454A:F65A (talk) 16:51, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Abraham was not invented later in history

Abraham is true God speaks about him in the Torah, which 600 thousand people have witnessed the giving of it to the jews. 108.61.94.107 (talk) 12:59, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Bah, see WP:RSPSCRIPTURE. Nothing can be known about Abraham, not even if he existed in real life. He is completely lost to historical investigation. tgeorgescu (talk) 13:04, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

15:23 but what about Moses himself surely 15:27 there must be some evidence for this 15:29 most famous Old Testament hero perhaps 15:32 the most famous of all Old Testament 15:34 figures even if there's no evidence of 15:37 the exodus they must surely be some 15:39 record of a leader as important as him 15:43 the name Moses is a name which is very 15:47 popular from early periods right down 15:51 into late periods so it's a fairly 15:54 common Egyptian name that's that's all 15:57 that we can say there is no text in 16:00 which we can identify this Moses or that 16:04 Moses as the Moses the question of the 16:08 historicity of Moses is the same as the 16:11 question of the historicity of Abraham 16:12 that is to say maybe there was a figure 16:16 maybe there was a leader I am NOT here 16:20 to 16:22 undermined historicity of Moses I think 16:25 that it is possible but I would say it's 16:27 beyond recovery John Van Seters and Israel Finkelstein at Bible Unearthed Discoveries of Old versions of the bible) on YouTube. Corrected: "The question of the historicity of Moses is the same as the question of the historicity of Abraham. That is to say, maybe there was a figure, maybe there was a leader. I am not here to undermine the historicity of Moses. I think that this is possible but I would say it's beyond recovery."

Quoted by tgeorgescu (talk) 13:13, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]