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Advertising

"Graduate Hotels is a hand-crafted collection of hotels that reside in dynamic university-anchored towns across the country." is just pure marketing puffery. Theroadislong (talk) 19:44, 12 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Disclosing Employer

I am an employee of AJ Capital Partners. I intend to do editing on Wikipedia primarily to my employer's page; however, seek to only contribute information that is neutral and follows independent sources, being mindful of Wikipedia's policies. I seek to adhere to these policies carefully. Eagate23 (talk) 16:28, 14 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your disclosure. You need to follow our COI policy and do your editing via the request edit template. We are not here as a promotional vehicle for companies, where you use us to promote your products and services.ThatMontrealIP (talk) 20:08, 14 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

ThatMontrealIP I will do this moving forward - thank you for informing me of this so I can property submit requested edits. Eagate23 (talk) 21:12, 14 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Some Proposed Changes

This edit request by an editor with a conflict of interest has now been answered.

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Information to be added to section "History": "Recent projects underway include The Armory in San Francisco; May Hosiery and Nashville Warehouse Company in Nashville, Marine Hotel and Spa in North Berwick, Scotland as well as the Rusacks Hotel overlooking the Old Course in St. Andrews, Scotland, opening in 2021. In 2019, Chip and Joanna Gaines announced they would work with AJ Capital Partners to open a hotel in Waco, Texas, set to debut in 2021."

Explanation of issue: The most recent acquisition information included is from 2016 and these upcoming projects are relevant and important for users to get a comprehensive understanding of the company. The Armory has its own Wikipedia page which mentions AJ Capital Partners, so AJ Capital Partners' page should link back as well. May Hosiery and Nashville Warehouse Company highlights the renovation of an iconic historic property in Nashville. The Marine Hotel and Spa and Rusacks Hotel indicate the company's international expansion. AJ Capital Partners partnership with Chip and Joanna Gaines is a monumental project, renovating a historic building into a boutique hotel a few blocks away from the couple's famous Magnolia Market.

References supporting change: - The Armory: ^[1] ^[2]

- May Hosiery and Nashville Warehouse Company: ^[3] ^[4] ^[5]

- Marine Hotel and Spa: ^[6] ^[7]

- Rusacks Hotel: ^[8] ^[9] ^[10]

- Chip & Joanna Gaines project: ^[11] ^[12] ^[13]

Eagate23 (talk) 17:28, 17 February 2020 (UTC) [reply]

Extended content

References

Reply 17-FEB-2020

Clarification requested

Please provide the Wikilinks below for these projects.
When ready to proceed with the requested information, kindly change the {{request edit}} template's answer parameter to read from |ans=yes to |ans=no. Thank you!

Regards, Spintendo 17:52, 17 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Spintendo: Thank you for your reply - please see below for Wikilinks to these projects:

- The Armory in San Francisco - May Hosiery - Marine Hotel and Spa - Rusacks Hotel - Old Course in St. Andrews - Chip and Joanna Gaines

Eagate23 (talk) 20:20, 18 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Spintendo: Did I correctly update the request edit template? Please let me know!

Eagate23 (talk) 20:28, 18 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Reply 18-FEB-2020

Clarification requested

Thank you for providing the Wikilinks. Unfortunately, only one of these directly links to the topic in question, and thus only one is acceptable.
To add the information, please clarify the proposed claim statement, in particular, what is meant by the term underway.
Please open a new edit request when ready to proceed with the clarifying information.

Regards, Spintendo 21:10, 18 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Awards

The awards section contains six so called "awards" none of them pass verification. Theroadislong (talk) 21:23, 18 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Theroadislong: I am not sure who initially created this page but I am working diligently to submit "Requests to edit" with proper citations to verify and improve the quality of this article. I appreciate your patience and understanding. I've found the following citations which verify the below awards:

This edit request by an editor with a conflict of interest has now been answered.

Awards

Fast Company The Most Innovative Companies of 2016, Travel Sector – AJ Capital Partners ^[1]

James Beard Foundation Award Outstanding Restaurant Design Nominee – Cindy's Rooftop Restaurant – Chicago Athletic Association ^[2]

Louisiana Landmarks Society 2017 Awards for Excellence in Historic Preservation - The Pontchartrain Hotel^[3]

Fast Company The World's Most Innovative Companies 2018, Travel Sector – Graduate Hotels ^[4]

Eagate23 (talk) 23:14, 19 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

References

Reply 19-FEB-2020

My practice is not to add awards which are not independently notable in Wikipedia. By their very nature, awards can be subjective, in that they represent a very specific point of view: that of the individual or organization which determines who wins the award and why. To counter this, a good practice is to limit the listing of awards to only those which are independently notable in Wikipedia.^[a]
To include a list of awards here that would remove the failed verification tags, I would ask that the COI editor ensure that only awards which are independently notable in Wikipedia are listed in the request along with their references.^[b]
If the COI editor does not wish to add only notable awards, they are free to seek another review editor. In that case, I'll leave the template open for the next week to see if another editor wishes to review the request.

Regards, Spintendo 02:18, 20 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Notes

^ An award which is independently notable is recognized by having its own article in Wikipedia.
^ What the reviewer is asking for here is not due to WP:N (which is not a content requirement). The request for notability in this case is to ensure WP:NPOV. The adding of several points of view to an article in the form of an awards section may skew the article's balance.^[1] Thus, this reviewer's own practice is to limit the listing of awards to those which are independently notable in Wikipedia.

References

^ "WP:BALANCE". Wikipedia. 20 July 2019. ...articles should not give minority views or aspects as much of or as detailed a description as more widely held views or widely supported aspects.

@Spintendo: Thank you for your response! I understand the preference for awards with their own Wikipedia pages - I've narrowed down the list. The James Beard Foundation Awards has their own page, which I tagged. The Louisiana Landmarks Society Award is mentioned in The Pontchartrain Hotels individual page, so I feel that makes it worthy to include. Fast Company does not have a separate award page but this is a significant enough corporation that I'd like to keep it for consideration. If you don't agree with the relevance of these, I would appreciate you leaving the template open for the next week to see if another editor wishes to review the request. Thank you so much.

Eagate23 (talk) 15:53, 20 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I tend to agree with User:Spintendo that these awards are not notable, and certainly being merely nominated for a non notable award deserves no mention. Theroadislong (talk) 16:00, 20 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I agree as well, and for the moment have removed the nomination from the article.ThatMontrealIP (talk) 16:07, 20 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

ThatMontrealIP Theroadislong Understandable. Would one of you consider updating the links to the below citations so they will pass verification? I updated the language to accurately match the awards and found the specific webpages that verify these awards. Would like to remove the "failed verification" tag when possible - thank you for your time.

Awards

Fast Company The Most Innovative Companies of 2016, Travel Sector – AJ Capital Partners ^[1]

James Beard Foundation Award Outstanding Restaurant Design Nominee – Cindy's Rooftop Restaurant – Chicago Athletic Association ^[2]

Louisiana Landmarks Society 2017 Awards for Excellence in Historic Preservation - The Pontchartrain Hotel^[3]

Fast Company The World's Most Innovative Companies 2018, Travel Sector – Graduate Hotels ^[4]

Eagate23 (talk) 16:16, 20 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

References

I think the problem here is that by adding the references, a review editor is giving sanction to the entire claim itself. What the COI editor needs to do is to locate a review editor who is already comfortable with the listing of these non-notable awards who would then be willing to post the references. Two other editors have stated that they are not comfortable with these awards. I take that to mean that the requesting COI editor has failed to establish a consensus for adding the awards' references. I propose that the following awards be removed from the article for the following reasons:

The World's Most Innovative Companies 2018 award from Fast Company, as that award is not even mentioned on Fast Company's Wikipedia page.
Urban Land Institute Chicago's Catalytic Redevelopment - nothing about this category of award is mentioned on the ULI Wikipedia page, which lists several other awards.
National Trust for Historic Preservation Driehaus Preservation Award - likewise, the National Trust's WP page says nothing about a "Driehaus" award
Louisiana Landmarks Society 2017 Awards for Excellence in Historic Preservation - this is not notable
James Beard Foundation Award Outstanding Restaurant Design Nominee - I have concerns with the JBFA WP page itself, as it is essentially a list with no main article for the award itself — and the Cindy's restaurant award mentioned is not even listed there.

Regards, Spintendo 20:59, 20 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

These awards have been omitted for the reasons specified above. Regards, Spintendo 19:50, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Help with Issues on an Article

This edit request by an editor with a conflict of interest has now been answered.

Is it possible to please remove the "This article has multiple issues." Box on the top of the AJ Capital Partners, link here: http://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/AJ_Capital_Partners and Ben Weprin, link here: http://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/Ben_Weprin articles? Can you please let me know exactly what changes need to be made to those articles in order to do this? I will request those edits as well.

I am an employee of the article subject and just hoping to have this amended so it doesn't view as a problematic article.

(Amy Wexler (talk) 15:55, 29 April 2020 (UTC)) Amy Wexler[reply]

Reply 2-MAY-2020

Please consult assigning editor

It is recommended that, as a courtesy, you first try asking the editor who assigned the templates — in this case Theroadislong — in order to find out from them if they can be removed. Since they placed the templates, they are in the best position to know whether or not the issues which caused their placement have been corrected. You may contact them directly by placing a new message on their talk page.
In the unlikely event that you do not hear back from them after a reasonable amount of time, please reopen this request by altering the {{request edit}} template's answer parameter to read from |ans=yes to |ans=no. Thank you!
Regards, Spintendo 10:43, 2 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Theroadislong (talk) 11:01, 2 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

[1] ttps://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/article/SF-Armory-sells-for-65-million-to-be-used-12560076.php

[2] ttps://www.bizjournals.com/sanfrancisco/news/2018/02/06/soho-house-armory-san-francisco-sale-the-mission.html

[3] ttps://www.bizjournals.com/nashville/news/2016/10/20/from-hosiery-to-hot-spot-inside-our-private-tour.html

[4] ttps://www.tennessean.com/story/money/2019/05/27/may-hosiery-mill-nashville-sock-factory-readies-tech-future/3692995002/

[5] ttps://www.nashvillepost.com/business/construction/article/21088171/permit-patrol-23-september-2019

[6] ttps://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/business/landmark-east-lothian-hotel-set-major-overhaul-after-sale-us-firm-1750411

[7] ttps://www.eastlothiancourier.com/news/18240856.us-company-buys-north-berwicks-macdonald-marine-hotel-spa/

[8] ttps://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/graduate-pitches-up-next-to-the-18th-at-st-andrews-rf98702qm

[9] ttps://www.hospitalitynet.org/announcement/41004060/macdonald-rusacks-hotel.html

[10] ttps://www.scotsman.com/business/luxury-st-andrews-hotel-rusacks-set-for-revamp-after-sale-to-american-firm-1-5048501

[11] ttps://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/2019/10/04/chip-and-joanna-gaines-fixer-upper-opening-hotel-2021/3854668002/

[12] ttps://www.architecturaldigest.com/story/chip-and-joanna-gaines-hotel-waco-texas

[13] ttps://www.travelandleisure.com/travel-tips/celebrity-travel/fixer-uppers-chip-joanna-gaines-opening-hotel-waco-texas

[14] ttps://www.fastcompany.com/most-innovative-companies/2016/sectors/travel

[15] ttps://www.architecturaldigest.com/gallery/2016-james-beard-award-nominees-for-restaurant-design

[16] ttps://www.nola.com/entertainment_life/home_garden/article_b99c622b-f363-5ba5-8890-0ef962140e99.html

[17] ttps://www.fastcompany.com/most-innovative-companies/2018/sectors/travel

[18] An award which is independently notable is recognized by having its own article in Wikipedia.

[20] What the reviewer is asking for here is not due to WP:N (which is not a content requirement). The request for notability in this case is to ensure WP:NPOV. The adding of several points of view to an article in the form of an awards section may skew the article's balance.^[1] Thus, this reviewer's own practice is to limit the listing of awards to those which are independently notable in Wikipedia.

[19] "WP:BALANCE". Wikipedia. 20 July 2019. ...articles should not give minority views or aspects as much of or as detailed a description as more widely held views or widely supported aspects.

[21] ttps://www.fastcompany.com/most-innovative-companies/2016/sectors/travel

[22] ttps://www.architecturaldigest.com/gallery/2016-james-beard-award-nominees-for-restaurant-design

[23] ttps://www.nola.com/entertainment_life/home_garden/article_b99c622b-f363-5ba5-8890-0ef962140e99.html

[24] ttps://www.fastcompany.com/most-innovative-companies/2018/sectors/travel

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