Talk:2022 Turkish Masters

2022 Turkish Masters has been listed as one of the Sports and recreation good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.
Review: September 18, 2022. (Reviewed version).

A fact from 2022 Turkish Masters appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 27 March 2022 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that a snooker table used at the 2022 Turkish Masters was fixed with a car jack?

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Games: A bunch of high-priority game redlinks, e.g. American four-ball billiards (redirs to Four-ball billiards but not specifically covered there)
"Legends": Edwin Kelly, Charlie Peterson (pool player) (all BCA Hall of Famers); George Franklin Slosson, Maurice Daly (billiards player), Frank Ives, George Butler Sutton [not George H. Sutton, the one with no hands]
Male pool bios: Hsia Hui-kai
Female pool bios:
Male three-cushion bios: Dion Nelin & Jozef Bel Philipoom
Female carom bios: Aygen Berk Saygıner
Aristic pool bios: Nick Nikolaidis, Mark Dimick,Sebastian Giumelli, Eric Yow
Unranked in current pool but notable: Mike Eufemia, Shannon Daulton, Jimmy Reid (pool player) [speed pool champ], var. Mosconi Cup players
Non-player figures: Mitch Laurance, George Fels
Five-pins bios: Gustavo Zito
Organizations: Joss Tour
Events: WPA World Nine-ball Championships (pre-1997), BCA Open Nine-ball Championship, World 14.1 Continuous Championship, International Challenge of Champions (pool)
Media and misc.: Iwan Simonis (leading billiard cloth maker), Joss Cues (major cue mfr.), The Baron and the Kid [Johnny Cash film], Ultimate Pool Party [TV show]
And: everyone/thing listed at WP:CUEGAMES, WP:CUEEVENTS, WP:CUEORGS, WP:CUEBIOS, & WP:CUEMISC. Also a Cue sports world records article (many can be pulled from bio articles like Geet Sethi, Guinness Book will provide others, and so will BCA and other orgs., websites and books like Shamos 1999).
Meta: Outline of cue sports (OoK; cf. [1], etc.) – presently redirects to Cue sports, but this is not an OoK page.
Internal pages: Something like: [2][3]). Such pages are not fluff, but can be good places to find recruits for the project, possibly including subject-matter experts, especially if cross-referenced to the project. Also, Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Cue sports (cf. [4][5][6]).

Cleanup : Thomas Engert, Marlon Manalo
Copyedit : Jonni Fulcher
Expand : Cue sports techniques#Carom shots (section needs to exist), Straight pool, Alfredo de Oro,Jeanette Lee (pool player)
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Update : Arcade game (link to bagatelle, bar billiards, etc.)
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- Plunder: the French article; it does have some interesting tidbits, structure and images. Check out de.wikipedia, etc., as well.
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Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by SL93 (talk) 18:54, 20 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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... that a snooker table used at the 2022 Turkish Masters was fixed by a car jack? Source: https://www.eurosport.co.uk/snooker/turkish-masters/2022/turkish-masters-2022-judd-trump-beats-ali-carter-to-reach-semi-finals-after-controversy-of-sloping-t_sto8839238/story.shtml
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Lucy Feagin
- Comment: QPQ to come.

5x expanded by Lee Vilenski (talk) and HurricaneHiggins (talk). Nominated by Lee Vilenski (talk) at 18:50, 12 March 2022 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ: Done.

Overall:

Well done. Riley1012 (talk) 19:07, 15 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:2022 Turkish Masters/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Mike Christie (talk · contribs) 18:28, 5 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I'll review this. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 18:28, 5 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Images are appropriately licensed; sources are reliable.

"Trump gave away 60 foul points while trying to escape from a snooker": maybe this is the way it is phrased, but wouldn't this have to be "from a series of snookers"? And this sounds unusual enough to be worth maybe a sentence of description.
- Changed Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 19:07, 10 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
"Matches involving the top four seeds and the two wild card players were held over and played at the main venue": who were those four seeds and the two wild cards? I see there's no (1) or (3) seed in the main draw; is that because they lost in qualifying?

-- Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 19:03, 5 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

- Not quite, it's mentioned a few times, but Robertson and Selby (who would have been first and third) withdrew from the tournament. They were both replaced in the qualifying draw by amateur players. The two local wildcards were both whitewashed (predictably) 5-0 in qualifying, so I didn't deem it notable to mention. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 19:03, 10 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  Well, if we're going to mention the wild cards at all it seems easy enough to name them, and the fact that they were local adds a touch of colour -- perhaps "...and the two wild cards, local Turkish players Ismail Türker and Enes Bakırcı, were held over..."? For the seeds, I should have realized that the two withdrawals were the reason there was no (1) or (3) seed, but that still doesn't tell me who the four seeds who played in Turkey were. So then I guessed it must be seeds 2/4/5/6, but looking at the four other qualifying matches with an "[nb 1]" against them that doesn't seem right either -- Trump is one of them, and Wilson, but Boiko/Blackwell and Pinhey/Yize don't involve a top seed. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 19:27, 10 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  - Yeah, I can add something on that. I think there is a small understanding - it wasn't the top four seeds who had their matches postponed, it was the matches that were drawn with those players which were played at the main venue. So, Selby's match was held-over, but was replaced by Pinhay. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 19:56, 10 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Earwig reveals no issues. Spotchecks:

FN 30 cites "Trump took a 5–3 lead over Selt in the afternoon session of the final. In the first frame of the evening session, Trump gave away 60 foul points while trying to escape from a series of snookers, but won the frame with an 88 clearance. The players scored a combined 189 points in the frame, just three short of the all-time professional record of 192 set by Peter Lines and Dominic Dale in 2012." Verified.
FN 23 cites "In the round of 16, Graeme Dott defeated Higgins in a deciding frame. Ding also defeated Si in a decider, making breaks of 64, 93, 73, 127, 105, and 97 to reach his first ranking quarter-final since the 2021 German Masters. Selt defeated Thepchaiya Un-Nooh 5–1, making breaks of 72, 80, and 61." Verified.
FN 4 cites "following the Welsh Open and preceding the Gibraltar Open": verified.

-- Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 19:27, 10 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Lee, I know you've been busy, so this is just a reminder so this doesn't drop off your to-do list. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 10:35, 17 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Mike - I did add something similar to the only outstanding point. Did you have anything else that needs addressing? Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 11:14, 17 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I think we should explain "Matches involving the top four seeds" a bit more clearly -- I wasn't able to figure it out, as you saw above, so I think other readers will have the same problem. Some version of the explanation you gave me above would work. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 11:18, 17 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, I've added something to that end. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 18:50, 18 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

That takes care of it. Passing. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 19:09, 18 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delisted

Since the article was redirected to, and merged with, Turkish Masters with this edit on 20 December 2024, I have removed the article's GA status. If this article is restored as a stand-alone article, GA status can be restored by undoing this edit. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 16:13, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

yeah, I have zero idea why this happened. It should have been that the article about the Turkish Masters as a whole was redirected to this article, not the other way around. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 18:08, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ive gone ahead and changed this as the master page. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 18:12, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Apologies @PCN02WPS @Lee Vilenski i had proposed to merge this page qith turkish masters, because there’s only one edition and no other turkish masters articles exist on the wikipedia [as far as i saw]. Thanks Lee for fixing the issue. — CitroenLover (talk) 23:27, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds good, thanks all for taking care of this and apologies if I made anything more of a headache! PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 23:33, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, it wasn't an issue, we only need one article, but the priority should be the event article, not the the series article. There are a lot of one off events, the articles should be at the year the event happened, not an article about all of the events. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 10:08, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]