Talk:2016 NHL entry draft

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Colby Robak trade

To prove the conversion of this pick is going to be a problem. The best thing we can do for now is to just leave this conditional pick in the table until more information becomes available. Deadman137 (talk) 20:17, 2 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Compensatory draft picks

At this point in time there are no unsigned NCAA players remaining from the 2011 draft that were selected in the first-round. There are three CHL players that currently remain unsigned or I was unable to find an article saying that they had signed (Conner Bleackley, Adrian Kempe and John Quenneville) from the first-round of the 2014 draft, though the teams that own their rights still have more than a year to sign the players.

If the CHL players are signed before the deadline next year there will not be any compensatory draft picks in this draft. 184.64.185.59 (talk) 17:01, 29 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Kings have signed Kempe to an ELC, leaving just Bleackley and Quenneville to sign, with a year to do so. -Uncleben85 (talk) 04:16, 23 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Quenneville signed with New Jersey the other day so Bleackley is the only player left unsigned. Deadman137 (talk) 18:52, 14 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The Coyotes have indicated they will not sign Bleackley therefore Bleackley can reenter the draft and the Coyotes get the 53rd pick as compensation [1]

Enroth/Lindback trade

Regarding the trade on February 11, 2015 that sent Jhonas Enroth to Dallas in exchange for Anders Lindback and a conditional third (the condition being if Enroth wins four games for Dallas in the 2015 Playoffs, the '16 third becomes a '16 second - not converted), do we know for fact the third going to Buffalo from Dallas is in fact Dallas' own, or might it be San Jose's '16 third, that Dallas obtained in the Dillon/Demers trade? All major press releases regarding the trade simply stated "a conditional third" and not which third would be conditionally granted. -Uncleben85 (talk) 04:01, 23 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

At this point its probably fine to leave it the way it is, there is a chance that San Jose's third could be involved in the trade but usually when there is no mention anywhere about the pick involved belonging to another team this is safest course of action. Now if we find any contradictory information in the next year then obviously we will have to fix things. Deadman137 (talk) 02:31, 24 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Auston Matthews

Just a quick reminder for people, because Auston Matthews is playing Europe this season he will be listed amongst European skaters when more detailed lists become available from the league. This is in line with what has been done in the past with Europeans coming over to play in North America as those players were listed as North American players in their draft years. Deadman137 (talk) 23:09, 7 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Kris Versteeg trade condition

It appears as though the condition on the fifth-round pick in this trade depends on if the Kings make it to the Conference Finals, however the only source that I have been able to find so far that makes this claim is found here. [2] This is not the most reliable source for the claim. I'm wondering if we should continue to wait for a better source or consider opening a discussion about the reliability of the author of the article? Deadman137 (talk) 04:36, 1 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

It had been confirmed that they have to advance to the Conference Finals for the pick to go to Carolina, however, it is no longer possible to convert it, as San Jose eliminated LA in 5 games in Round 1.Jusgtr (talk) 12:28, 2 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Anders Nilsson trade

Quick heads up, the pick traded to Edmonton for Nilsson could belong to Columbus or St. Louis. Given that this is a fifth-round pick it's probably best to just leave things the way that they are currently written unless we can find a source to contradict this. Either way we'll have this figured out when the official draft list comes out in June. Deadman137 (talk) 00:34, 18 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The pick that was traded, is confirmed to be STL's own pick. Jusgtr (talk) 12:32, 2 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Odds Tables discussion

Hey, just wanted to start a discussion for the odds table. I like the current long one we have, showing the odds of where every team could finish, but after the lottery, I was going to make a second table showing the shifts in odds for each lottery. For example, the second table would relist the odds of first to begin, but would have a colour code to signify who won the lottery, and then the next column would show the new odds, and have the winning team from the previous lottery subtracted. It would looks something like this.

Indicates team won the respective lottery

Team	Odds	Team	Odds	Team	Odds
Toronto Maple Leafs	20%	Toronto Maple Leafs	23.121%	TBA	TBA
Edmonton Oilers	13.5%	Vancouver Cancuks	13.295%	TBA	TBA
Vancouver Canucks	11.5%	Columbus Blue Jackets	10.983%	TBA	TBA
Columbus Blue Jackets	9.5%	Calgary Flames	9.827%	TBA	TBA

Notice that Edmonton was replaced with the team seeded below. If this looks unappealing, we could just fill Edmonton's remaining slots with a dash or "N/A".

Team	Odds	Team	Odds	Team	Odds
Toronto Maple Leafs	20%	Toronto Maple Leafs	23.121%	–	–
Edmonton Oilers	13.5%	–	–	–	–
Vancouver Canucks	11.5%	Vancouver Canucks	13.298%	Vancouver Canucks	17.293%
Columbus Blue Jackets	9.5%	Columbus Blue Jackets	10.983%	Columbus Blue Jackets	14.286%

If anyone has any suggests, comments, or disagrees with this idea, comment here. Spilia4 (talk) 04:36, 11 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

We could do it but this looks like it would be overkill, sometimes less is more. Deadman137 (talk) 04:39, 11 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Order of remaining playoff teams

As I did last year, here is this year's order of remaining playoff teams.

Conference finalists will be given the final four selections in this year's draft. As teams get eliminated from the playoffs please only add teams that have their selection spot determined.

The following is a list in reverse order of league finish for this year's playoff teams:

Minnesota Wild
Detroit Red Wings
Nashville Predators
Philadelphia Flyers
Tampa Bay Lightning
San Jose Sharks
New York Islanders
New York Rangers
Los Angeles Kings
Chicago Blackhawks
Pittsburgh Penguins
St. Louis Blues
Florida Panthers
Anaheim Ducks
Dallas Stars
Washington Capitals

Ex: If the Wild or Capitals were to be eliminated in the first two rounds they would pick 15th and 26th respectively. If the Wild were to make the conference finals and Detroit was eliminated in the opening two rounds then the Red Wings would pick 15th. If the Capitals were to make the conference finals and the Stars lost in either of the first two rounds then Dallas would select 26th. Deadman137 (talk) 17:55, 12 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Quick update, the selection spots for the Rangers, Kings and Blackhawks have been determined. Picks 17-19 will be some combination of the Flyers, the loser of San Jose/Nashville series and the loser of the Lightning/Islanders series. Picks 23-26 will be some combination of Anaheim, Florida and the losers of the Capitals/Penguins and Stars/Blues series. As a result of all of this spots 20-22 must belong to the Rangers, Kings and Blackhawks, respectively. Deadman137 (talk) 18:23, 1 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The 2016 draft order changed from 2015. It is now 30th for Stanley Cup Winner, then any Divisional Winner by points, then the remaining playoff teams by points. [3] Thus, the Flyers will pick 17th in Nashville wins the Cup, or else 18th. Washington will pick 29th unless they win the Cup and drop to 30th. As such, with one note that Stanley Cup winner would move to 30th and everyone else bumped up one position, the remaining draft order could be populated (when placing Washington as the cup winners). Maplesoon (talk) 13:26, 2 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your work, however the link that you are using created problems two years ago when I made the same the exact same claim on that article's talk page and was later proven wrong. Unless the league publishes a new article making this claim we can ignore what is written at the hockey operations guidelines. It does not look like that article has been updated since the last conversation about it. Deadman137 (talk) 13:56, 2 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

It would seem that the NHL PR Department has confirmed the draft order see [4] and their twitter posting [5]. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.101.91.11 (talk) 23:37, 23 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Jamie McGinn trade

I think that it would be best to leave this trade in the Unresolved section until we get better information from the league on which third-round pick Anaheim is trading to Buffalo. If it takes until June to get it right, then so be it. Deadman137 (talk) 06:10, 28 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I know it, Anaheim sent their own pick to the Sabres. Jusgtr (talk) 03:46, 3 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Draft ranking and draft guide talk?

I think it might be worth adding in a section showing draft rankings from various sources. The more credible or discussed lists include Bob McKenzies, Future Considerations Publicly Available top 100, Craig Button's list, Corey Ponrman's top 100, The Hockey News' publicly available top 30, etc. It would also be worth considering linking to guides published for the 2016 draft like the Red Line Report or Draft Buzz. There's also a consensus spreadsheet showing averaged ratings from 13 sources sorted by average: Averaged draft ranking google doc. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 45.72.132.19 (talk) 16:49, 12 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Those lists are all speculative and don't belong here. Deadman137 (talk) 16:27, 13 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Correct, all draft lists including the ones teams go in with are speculative and no one's draft list including a team's selection is ever correct. A section like this would just be for showing what scouts thought of going into the draft or what media consensus was compared to how it plays out which I think would be of interest to many. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 167.88.23.188 (talk) 02:54, 16 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Pick #120

Quick heads up, we need to keep an eye on this pick as the Coyotes have an option to send this pick to the Flyers and save a third-round pick next year to complete a trade from last year. Deadman137 (talk) 20:34, 20 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Draft Based on Nationality

The numbers don't add up for canada. If you count the flags of the seven rounds you come up with 90. Somebody just tallied the provincial/state numbers which yield an incorrect result because even if Jacob Chychrun was born in florida, he is a canadian national. The correct number is 90 for canada, 51 for USA— Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.13.223.68 (talk) 00:56, 27 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

There was a very subjective decision made when choosing the which flags should go in the round-by-round tables. I put together the state/province table and did research on each individual to get the numbers I got. Chychrun plays internationally, but as trained and grew up American, so I chose to include him as an American draftee (as does the NHL). If anyone wants to go through the lists and pick out which four do not lineup with the round-by-round and the nationalities (I did list which player belongs to which state/province in the "source code"), go for it.-Uncleben85 (talk) 01:39, 28 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Chychrun should be under Ontario, as he played for Ontario in the Under-17 championship, and his father was from Ontario. But, if we're doing things subjectively like this, it smells of Original Research. -- Earl Andrew - talk 13:29, 28 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

TOP PROSPECTS

Columns have players listed on the wrong side. Europeans under North America, and vice versa. Not sure how to fix. 70.53.201.71 (talk) 13:31, 21 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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