Talk:2013 European floods

A news item involving 2013 European floods was featured on Wikipedia's Main Page in the In the news section on 5 June 2013.

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Article scope/name

Should this article deal with all European flooding in 2013 or just the event in Central Europe? Personally I'm not sure the Norwegian floods in May 2013 fit with this bout of flooding, but others may disagree. If this article is not covering all incidents of European flooding then I suggest it be renamed to "2013 Central European floods".--Lacunae (talk) 20:20, 9 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The scope should be determined by the Meteorological history. SBaker43 (talk) 09:44, 10 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Map requests

Two feedback responses requested maps of the rivers or flooding involved. The following Commons categories; I'm sure there are others.

Drainage basin maps of Europe

Maps of the upper Danube and perhaps Maps of the middle Danube if applicable.

There don't seem to be many English language maps that show the affected river basins. With some English translation the following would seem to be candidates:

commons:File:Europäische Wasserscheiden.png

commons:File:Passau Altstadt.svg or commons:File:Passau Stadtteile.svg for Passau. Both are used in de:Altstadt (Passau)

commons:File:Bassins hydrographiques (UE).svg

commons:File:Palatines rivers map.png the only English language map I found. Rhine river.

commons:File:Rhine river 3.PNG

SBaker43 (talk) 09:44, 10 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

If someone would like to translate the legend of this map into English, I'll upload also an English version. --Alexrk2 (talk) 11:39, 22 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I'll try:

Regions where a state of emergency was declared or where the floods caused severe damage
Main rivers where the highest flood alarm level was widely exceeded (what does that mean? how can the highest alarm level be execeeded/surpassed? Or is "previously highest flood levels" meant? [Wie kann die höchste Alarmstufe überschritten werden?])
Selected stations where the highest flood alarm levels (see above) were exceeded and dates of the highest gauge reading

-- Michael Bednarek (talk) 08:00, 23 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. "Höchste Alarmstufe überschritten" means: each gauge has threshold marks for which an alarm level 1 to max is declared. See for example here. So "exceeded" should be correct. --Alexrk2 (talk) 11:50, 23 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

In the first overview map on the page there is an error in the marking of a region within the Czech Republic on the right (north-east) bank of the Elbe. The map says ‘Karlovy Vary’ but it should read ‘Hradec Kralove’

iower (talk) 10:20, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Aftermath section

This section is titled "Aftermath", which seems appropriate if this were a meteorological article, but the "floods" article title implies that the article is about the flooding. Hence "aftermath" needs a better name. "Flooding" is better, but something better is needed.

There is some general information but this section needs some restructuring to separate the details of the flooding by major river basin; at least subsections for the Danube (Donau), Elbe, and Rhine. This would also make it easier to describe the cresting and flooding on the separate rivers in a chronological approach. It would be easier if someone with more familiarity with the rivers than I have would do the restructuring.
Thanks, SBaker43 (talk) 09:44, 10 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the idea of structuring via basin, it seems preferable to by country, sadly I had a block with renaming the immediate aftermath section.--Lacunae (talk) 20:17, 11 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for all the work on this article. It reads much better. Are you able to assign an end date to the flooding yet?
SBaker43 (talk) 01:26, 23 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Information was needed to put the floods in context of the disturbance regime, and the projected increase in frequency of flooding. That information was added. Sgrigo1 (talk) 17:59, 29 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]