Talk:2010s in video games
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VGChartz or alternatives
[edit]I do not wish to get into an edit war here whether or not VGChartz is a reliable site or not when it comes to sale figures for games under the "best-selling" section, but at the moment, they are the only real site devoted to sale numbers. If anyone thinks there is a more reliable alternative then please let me know so that I can update the list accordingly to make it more accurate. (Tigerghost (talk) 17:25, 22 March 2012 (UTC))
- Just to pass along reasoning, please see Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games/Sources for why it's not used. A good source would be NPD sales numbers. Past that I'll let others list any alternatives they know of. --Teancum (talk) 21:45, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
- I see. Disappointing really. It took a long time to make that chart. (Tigerghost (talk) 09:08, 23 March 2012 (UTC))
Regarding the Neutrality of the Notable video-game franchises section
[edit]Firstly I want to thank the writer for putting together this page. I found it to be helpful and informative and very well cited.
I just question what constitutes "Notable". The section does not mention any reason why the particular franchises are notable or provide a definition of what it means to be a Notable video-game franchise in the 2010s (though I imagine that reading the linked pages would provide that information).
I certainly do agree that some of the game franchises were notable. Minecraft because it was one of the first examples of an indie game that was very successful, and arguably, along with the rise of distributors like steam and gog.com have helped fuel the rise of independent video game developers. Also, Dark Souls is notable because of it's innovative gameplay and mechanics. However Epic Mikey, while the magic paint brush is a really cool and innovative mechanic, being a Disney trademark it arguably does not belong in the "franchises established in the 2010s" category.
I feel like a jerk having tagged the section as such because I think the writer was probably just trying to list some influential or interesting game franchises that were established in the 2010s. It would not be feasible in this section to make an exhaustive list, and just listing on sales or reviews alone might not capture some of the titles that deserve to be in this list.
Please let me know your thoughts on this.
Thanks again!— Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.187.130.152 (talk) 00:56, 20 June 2014 (UTC)
- It is an attempt to avoid, as you said, an exhausting list of games. There is much work to be done to clean up the 1990s in video gaming page, which I feel is a consequence of not having such a "notable" list section at the time of that page's creation. It mentions the games without paragraph upon paragraph upon paragraph of information that would clutter the article and be better suited in the franchise's own articles. This would certainly become a very, very long article quickly if every game released in the 2010s had it's own section devoted to it. We just can't fit all of them in. This layout, much like the 2000s in video gaming article is much easier to read as a result. Although I have edited these gaming articles extensively, I do not own them and welcome any changes that would continue to benefit them. For the moment, the Notable franchise section is the best method of mentioning games released within the 2010s without clutter. Also, not every game is well, "game-changing" (mind the pun), so this satisfies the need to mention them without divulging into game's plots, gameplay, and other characteristics. Would it sound better to remove "Notable" from the title and just leave it as "Franchises established in the 2010s"? That would probably be up to debate. I personally think it sounds better to have notable in the title. I'm not familiar with every franchise, so there may be some games worth mentioning that have been missed, but that's why this is a wiki and anyone can add material that I may have missed. That being said, yes, there are some omissions, but sequels do not qualify and that is why Diablo III or Starcraft 2 is not mentioned. There is an extensive qualification process hidden, but embedded into the section itself. Did you look into that or did you just plot the POV notice without seeing it? (Tigerghost (talk) 13:57, 20 June 2014 (UTC))
- Also, I would like to point out that there has never been an entry added that hasn't had its own Wikipedia article associated with it. Red links and unlinked text have always been discouraged as an unwritten rule for some reason, so the mere fact that each game franchise holds their own articles could fill the notability requirements you were seeking. (Tigerghost (talk) 14:12, 20 June 2014 (UTC))
I think this section needs cleanup and a fixed criteria (e.g. either the game sold 5-10M copies, or it influenced many other games and defining gaming features of the 2010s). Also, I feel that it doesn't necessarily need to be a franchise established in the 2010s. For example, the Witcher 3 is one the most-sold games in the decade with the most number of accolades. Yet, its series started in the previous decade. Other notable games with big influences: League of Legends, Undertale ... there's really too many to list. — Preceding unsigned comment added by HSukePup (talk • contribs) 20:39, 16 December 2019 (UTC)
The opening paragraph's citation of the Yahoo article
[edit]I'm not one to edit Wikipedia generally, so I may be out of my element in suggesting this, but does the sentence about the Yahoo article speculating the downfall of games by 2020 really belong in the forefront of the article? It seems very speculative, and the author of the article is A) not cited, and B) has no notable weight in the gaming industry. I'm not sure it's really necessary. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.22.144.110 (talk) 21:34, 2 November 2014 (UTC)
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Here come the end-of-decade roundups
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