Talk:État 231-011 to 231-060

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Infobox image suggests "this locomotive falls over?"

Given that the image in the infobox should probably serve as a definitive representation of the locomotive in question, I'm just wondering if someone shouldn't find a more representative image of this locomotive than the current one. I've read a book by Andre Chapelon on French steam locomotives and I didn't get the impression they were generally known for rolling over on their side. Perhaps if no alternative image can be found, we should take the image out of the infobox and have it as an image inline with the article text? Zzrbiker 02:54, 31 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The 231 Bs weren't of Chapelon's design and they did, as the article points out, have a tendancy to derail, especially from the front axle. Chapelon worked a lot for the CF du Nord, not the Etat. I have a book of a selection of the French steam locomotives so I'd pretty much vouch on the information contained in it. It's hard to find photos of these things, that is why I was rather impressed to find this one, especially with this license. I know an photograph of a damaged locomotive might not be the best way to represent it, but it's, as I've said, hard to find reusable media. Captain Scarlet and the Mysterons 09:58, 31 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]