Module talk:IPA/data

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Sorbian

Can someone add dsb and hsb as codes for Sorbian? They should link to Help:IPA/Sorbian languages. Thanks. Sol505000 (talk) 14:04, 2 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Do we need "languages" in the key title? (Compare the keys for Malay, Kurdish, Nahuatl, etc. There's also wen.) Nardog (talk) 14:43, 2 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Ah yes, wen should also be added. As to "languages" in the key title, I'm ambivalent. We can move the guide to Help:IPA/Sorbian as we don't have Help:IPA/Serbian anyway. Sol505000 (talk) 14:47, 2 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Nardog (talk) 14:52, 2 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Template-protected edit request on 10 November 2023

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Please add Help:IPA/Pashto. Psiĥedelisto (talk • contribs) ^{please always ping!} 04:55, 10 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Psiĥedelisto: Can you either excise the alternative symbols, or make it clear which symbol should be used in which context so transcribers can know when to use which (preferably by adding words to illustrate the allophony)? Listing multiple symbols for the same sound defeats the whole point of having a key. Nardog (talk) 06:47, 10 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Nardog: Do you mean like give examples of words with all the different sounds for e.g. و (w, u, o)? Psiĥedelisto (talk • contribs) ^{please always ping!} 16:53, 10 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, either that or pick one. One of the main purposes of an IPA key is to enforce consistency between articles, so if multiple symbols are listed without clarification on when to use which one, both readers and editors will be confused. Nardog (talk) 19:32, 10 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The key is also lacking stress even though Pashto phonology says it's contrastive. Nardog (talk) 19:38, 10 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Deactivating edit request as this does not appear to be ready to implement. Please agree on what exact code should be added, code it up in the sandbox, and, if you still need the attention of an uninvolved template editor (as opposed to Nardog implementing themselves), reactivate the template. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 18:23, 10 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Reopening, finished by @Michael Peter Fustumum. Psiĥedelisto (talk • contribs) ^{please always ping!} 07:13, 15 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Done Nardog (talk) 05:04, 18 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Add kjb, lac, quc—Template-protected edit request on 3 April 2024

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Add ISO 639:kjb, ISO 639:lac, and ISO 639:quc with their own names but pointing to Help:IPA/Mayan. Presently, these Mayan languages are implicitly in the module but subsumed under ISO 639:myn with a link pointing to Help:IPA/Mayan. I would like to add entries for each of them to the module with their respective names, without changing the Help page they point to. I am not super fluent with Lua modules or familiar with how this particular module works, so correct me if I am wrong, but I believe the required change is to add the following entries (in the appropriate places, to keep alphabetized order):

["kjb"] = {
	name = "Qʼanjobʼal",
	key = "Help:IPA/Mayan",
},

["lac"] = {
	name = "Lacandon",
	key = "Help:IPA/Mayan",
},

["quc"] = {
	name = "Kʼicheʼ",
	key = "Help:IPA/Mayan",
},

n.b.: I used ʼ above in the name of kjb and quc, because that is what is used in the official orthography and on the Wikipedia page titles/URLs for these languages, but if the regular apostrophe ' is more appropriate, please let me know. Brusquedandelion (talk) 07:07, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Done I didn't give any name at all, letting the implicit name control, while changing the link to Help:IPA/Mayan instead of the default Help:IPA. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 03:00, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template-protected edit request on 11 January 2025

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Add ISO 639:mnk, and ISO 639:alt with their own names, pointing to Help:IPA/Mandinka and Help:IPA/Altai. I am not super fluent with Lua modules or familiar with how this particular module works, so correct me if I am wrong, but I believe the required change is to add the following entries (in the appropriate places, to keep alphabetized order) i copied this text from another user but changed the languages. Hopefully you can ignore the ethics and it gets the point across.: K1RB1L1TY (talk) 10:59, 11 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{Edit template-protected}} template. Those languages currently have respectively one and zero transcriptions. Keys should be created only after it is shown that there's demand for them. Nardog (talk) 11:45, 11 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

what is the minimum for a language to be added K1RB1L1TY (talk) 11:21, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

There isn't one. And please do not add transcriptions just to inflate the numbers. Create keys once there is demand. Nardog (talk) 15:47, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Add ISO 639:wo with it's own name, pointing to Help:IPA/Wolof. I am not super fluent with Lua modules or familiar with how this particular module works, so correct me if I am wrong, but I believe the required change is to add the following entries (in the appropriate places, to keep alphabetized order) Is seven IPA examples enough?: K1RB1L1TY (talk) 14:40, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Wolof is such a widely spoken language that I don't think anyone would object to the idea per se, but the key draft seems too narrow and inconsistent in parts. I'll take a closer look at it and give feedback if I find time. In the meantime, any template editor is welcome to review this, though my recommendation would be to decline it. Nardog (talk) 02:05, 14 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]