Draft talk:Outline of astrophysics

Status as of November 2011?

Just curious. What is the status of this draft? Did it ever go live? What was behind the effort to propose this draft in the first place? Links to where any of this was discussed would be very helpful. Cheers. N2e (talk) 15:36, 22 November 2011 (UTC)

Discussion about this draft OUTLINE article on a user Talk page

• the following posts, from 22 Nov 2011 through 4 Dec 2011, constitute a discussion on the Talk page of the Wikipedia editor who first created this draft outline—Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Outlines/Drafts/Outline of astrophysics—The Transhumanist. I am adding it to the draft Outline of astrophysics Talk page on 5 Dec 2011, to allow all editors interested in this topic to see the discusion. Cheers. —N2e (talk) 03:06, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

Hi. I'm curious. What is the status of the Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Outlines/Drafts/Outline of astrophysics draft? Did it ever go live? What was behind the effort to propose this draft in the first place? Links to where any of this was discussed would be very helpful.

I'm also interested in the answer to the question: where on Wikipedia, or in what WikiProject, is astrophysics discussed? Cheers. N2e (talk) 15:41, 22 November 2011 (UTC)

There is no proposal process for creating pages on Wikipedia. Instant page creation (just click and create) is a core design feature of wiki software, and it is one of the reasons Wikipedia has grown so rapidly.

Instead of requiring approval for the creation of pages, we have a nomination process for the deletion of pages (WP:AfD). Easy creation, discussed deletion. Rapid growth.

The status of the page is what you see: it is a draft and it needs editors interested in working on it (hint hint wink wink). By the looks of it, it hasn't grown beyond a mere skeleton. When a page like this has "gone live" it means it was renamed/moved to article space. This one is clearly not ready to be moved into the encyclopedia proper.

To see the history of a page's development, click on "View history".

Astrophysics falls under Wikipedia:WikiProject Astronomy, as there is not currently a Wikipedia:WikiProject Astrophysics. But you can create it by clicking on that red link. No proposal required. Instant page creation.

I hope you have found my answers helpful. The Transhumanist 20:44, 22 November 2011 (UTC)

P.S.: My guess is that you could build a useful rudimentary outline on astrophysics in a few hours. I look forward to seeing what you can create.

P.P.S: For some insight on the page-creation and outline development process see Outline of domestic violence which was created recently, and check out it's edit history, it's talk page, and the talk page of Carole Henson, its main contributor. She just created a page and started adding topics/links to it. It's easy to get started. The outline is coming along nicely.

P.P.P.S.: The Outline of astrophysics will be a nice companion to Outline of geophysics and Outline of biophysics.

Thanks very much for the comprehensive and helpful answer. I will check in on WikiProject Astronomy sometime. I've created a number of pages over the years, and am active in WikiProject Spaceflight, but am really quite ignorant of Astrophysics, so am probably the wrong person to drive that effort. Thanks for the encouragement however. Best. N2e (talk) 22:06, 22 November 2011 (UTC)

The right person for building an outline is someone who is interested in the subject, experienced or not. I've built over 400 outlines, on subjects I knew very little or nothing about. But, after each outline was built, I knew a whole lot more. Outlines are learning tools - that's why teachers have their students make them. The Transhumanist 22:13, 22 November 2011 (UTC)

Well, I've not done much, but did put a little time in expanding the Astrophysics outline just a bit, including a very first draft of a concepts section. Would appreciate feedback, and ideas on how to complete a determination of when the scope of the concepts list is adequate for a WP Outline. I pretty much just used existing categories to help me make the first cut. N2e (talk) 22:58, 4 December 2011 (UTC)

A good rule of thumb is to move an outline draft to article space once it has at least good basic coverage of the subject, is broken down into major subheadings, and has at least some topics listed under each subheading. The Transhumanist 23:12, 4 December 2011 (UTC)

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Brief explanation of Wikipedia outlines

Outlines on Wikipedia are a type of list article. Each outline is about the subject identified after "Outline of" in the title. "Outline" refers to the format of the article...

"Outline" is short for "hierarchical outline". There are two types of outlines: sentence outlines (like those you made in school to plan a paper), and topic outlines (like the topical synopses that professors hand out at the beginning of a college course). In Wikipedia outlines, the hierarchy is maintained through the use of heading levels and indented bullets.

Outlines on Wikipedia are primarily topic outlines that serve 2 main purposes: they provide taxonomical classification of subjects showing what topics belong to a subject and how they are related to each other (via their placement in the tree structure). They also serve as subject-based tables of contents linked to topics in the encyclopedia. See Wikipedia:Outlines for a more in-depth explanation. The Transhumanist 12:51, 7 August 2016 (UTC)