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Response to Decline: Addressing Notability and Source Concerns

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Thank you for reviewing this draft. I have made significant improvements to address the concerns about notability and sourcing, following Wikipedia's guidelines on WP:ORG and WP:GNG (General Notability Guidelines). Here are the key changes:

1. **Independent, Reliable Sources:** 

  - Added multiple secondary sources from reputable industry publications, including:
    - The Bookseller (coverage of acquisitions and company profile)  
    - Publishers Weekly (coverage of acquisitions)  
    - FAD Magazine (profile on the founder and company history)  
    - Amazon (recognition of authors' performance on Kindle Unlimited)  
  
  All of these are reliable, independent sources with significant coverage, as defined by WP:RS.
Amazon is absolutley NOT a reliable, independent source despite what chatgpt.com may tell you! Theroadislong (talk) 18:32, 19 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The Bookseller and Publishers Weekly are. They are some of the longest-standing publishing magazines in the world. Their coverage is independent, reliable and indicates notability.
"The Bookseller has been the business magazine of the book industry since 1858; incorporating the even earlier Bent’s Literary Advertiser, established in 1802. It is one of the UK’s longest-standing magazines. We’ve reported on every significant book trade event, from the launch of George Eliot’s Mill on the Floss in 1860 to Allen Lane’s launch of the paperback to the demise of the Net Book Agreement in 1995 and today’s Amazon-led competitive struggles." https://www.thebookseller.com/about-us/who-we-are
"Publishers Weekly (PW) is an American weekly trade news magazine targeted at publishers, librarians, booksellers, and literary agents. Published continuously since 1872, it has carried the tagline, "The International News Magazine of Book Publishing and Bookselling." from Publishers Weekly
I would humbly ask you to reconsider the draft based on this evidence. Editor128z (talk) 09:24, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Editor128z: If you want a new review of the draft, you need to submit it for review! Is there any reason not to develop the draft a bit and then resubmit it? --bonadea contributions talk 15:33, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
thank you. I will do that Editor128z (talk) 13:44, 23 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

2. **Demonstrated Notability:** 

  - **Industry Recognition:** Joffe Books won *Trade Publisher of the Year* at the Independent Publishing Awards (2023).  
  - **Significant Acquisitions:** Expanded its portfolio by acquiring Choc Lit and Lume Books (covered by The Bookseller and Publishers Weekly).  
  - **Bestselling Authors:** Published two of the top Kindle Unlimited authors of the decade (Joy Ellis and Faith Martin).  
  - **Award Winner:** Received the *People's Book Prize for Best Publisher* (2024).  
  
  These achievements clearly demonstrate the company's significance within the publishing industry per WP:ORGCRIT.

3. **Neutral, Non-Promotional Language:** 

  - Revised the draft for an encyclopedic tone with factual statements supported by citations.  
  - Removed any promotional language and focused solely on verifiable achievements and industry impact.


I believe the draft now fully satisfies Wikipedia’s criteria for company articles and respectfully request a reconsideration for publication. If there are any further adjustments needed, I am happy to collaborate and make the necessary changes.

Thank you for your time and feedback!

Request for Second Opinion on Joffe Books Draft

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Hello, I appreciate the review and feedback given on this draft. I understand that the initial concern was regarding the reliability of sources. However, I believe the draft meets Wikipedia’s WP:GNG (General Notability Guidelines) and WP:ORG (Notability for Companies), as it includes: - **Coverage from established industry sources** such as *The Bookseller* and *Publishers Weekly*. - **Significant milestones**, including awards (*Trade Publisher of the Year*, *People’s Book Prize for Best Publisher*). - **Acquisitions covered by independent media** (*The Bookseller* and *Publishers Weekly* reporting on Choc Lit and Lume Books acquisitions). I kindly request a second opinion from another editor to assess whether this meets Wikipedia’s standards. If any improvements are needed, I’m happy to collaborate. Thank you for your time!

Key Points Supporting Notability:

  1. Industry Recognition:
  2. Strategic Acquisitions:
  3. Initiatives Promoting Diversity:

Editor128z (talk) 11:48, 19 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Editor128z Source=chatgpt.com? Theroadislong (talk) 18:01, 19 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
sorry, that was left in from formatting it on chatgpt, the links are all to reliable third party sources. As I am new to editing, I use chatgpt to help with formatting. Editor128z (talk) 07:56, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Please don't use chatgpt. Theroadislong (talk) 07:58, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Understood Editor128z (talk) 09:36, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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