Draft:Thurstan de Holland
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Comment: There is absolutely no clue here as to why Thurstan de Holland would merit an article? Theroadislong (talk) 14:07, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
Pipera (talk) The Holland family is one of the notable families in the history of Lancashire, they extend to the people of note including Knights and Sirs. Thristan's daughter Margaret married Sir Adam de Banastre Earl of Lincoln see the Banastre Rebellion amd Robert Holland, 1st Baron Holand. He is the grandson of Thurstan de holland.
- Comment: Unsourced. It's entirely possible you tried to source the article through an external link, but you put in an example link by mistake. I dream of horses (Hoofprints) (Neigh at me) 04:40, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
Pipera (talk)This article has been sourced from independent sources of which I have no connection to and I do not know any parties in the creation of such materials.
Thurstan de Holland | |
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| Predecessor | Robert Holland |
| Born | Thurstan de Holland about 1220 Up Holland Lancashire, England |
| Died | after 1272 Lancashire, England |
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| Issue | Robert de Holland - Margaret de Holland - Willaim de Holland - Roger de Holland - Thurstan de Holland - Adam II de Holland - Elias de Holland |
Thurstan de Holland (born c. 1220 Upholland, Lancashire; died after 1272),[1][2] is the son of Robert de Holland and Cecily de Columbers. Thurstan was married to a Miss de Kellet the daughter of Adam de Kellet.
The Holland family originated in the village of Upholland is about four miles west of Wigan.[3]
In 1241 Robert de Holland and his son Thurstan were taken and lodged in the King's prison upon the charge of having set fire to one of the houses of a certain John Mansell in Wigan.* The Sheriff was directed, however, to release them if they would find good and sure pledges that they would appear before the King to reply to the charge. Thurstan did not appear on the day appointed (7th June), but Robert came and defended his whole action, and put himself for good or evil upon the country, to wit, upon twelve.[4]
Thurstan is said to have married, first, the daughter of Adam de Kellet of Nether Kellet, whose grandson, Orm de Kellet, by a fine levied at York on the i8th December 1299, conveyed the manor of Nether Kellet to Thomas Banastre of Broughton, in consideration of ;^ 100 sterling.^ Orm died without issue after 1299, and so eventually the lordship of the manor and the bailliwick of the Wapentake of Lonsdale and of Fumess and Cartmel descended to the heirs of Thurstan de Holland by his said wife. By this wife he had five sons, Sir Robert de Holland, his eldest son and heir; William, afterwards of Sharpies; Richard, who held lands in Hale (20 Edward I.); Roger and Adam.*[4]
Thurstan de Holland and Miss Kellet daughter of Adam de Kellet [5] had the following children:
- Robert De Holland, he married Elizabeth de Samlesbury
- Margaret Holland married Sir John Blakeburn Lord of Wiswell, Sir Adam de Banastre Earl of Lincoln, Robert de Hephale.
- William Holland married an unknown woman and had issue
- Roger Holland
- Adam Holland
Thurstan de Holland married Julian Gellibrand the daughter of John Gellibrand they had the following children:[4]
- Thurston II de Holand
- Adam de Holand the younger
- Elias de Holland
- Simon de Holand[6]
Thurstan de Holland married Unknown de Hale daughter of Henry de hale.[7]
They had no issue.
References
[edit]- ^ The Lancashire Hollands by Holland, Bernard Henry, 1856-1926. 2n Publication date 1917 https://archive.org/details/lancashirehollan00holl/page/268/mode/2up?q=Thurstan+
- ^ The Derby Household Books: Comprising an Account of the Household ... edited by Francis Robert Raines England https://books.google.ca/books?id=IQAsAAAAMAAJ&vq=holand&pg=PA152#v=onepage&q=Thurstan%20&f=false
- ^ The Lancashire Hollands by Holland, Bernard Henry, 1856-1926. 2nPublication date 1917 https://archive.org/details/lancashirehollan00holl/page/n23/mode/2up?q=Thurstan+
- ^ a b c Holland, Edgar Swinton; Irvine, William Fergussson (1902). A history of the family of Holland of Mobberley and Knutsford in the country of Chester;. Retrieved 10 October 2024.
This article incorporates text from this source, which is in the public domain.
- ^ The Derby Household Books: Comprising an Account of the Household ...edited by Francis Robert Raines https://books.google.ca/books?id=IQAsAAAAMAAJ&vq=holand&pg=PA152#v=onepage&q&f=false
- ^ Some descendants of Ezekial Byrom of Southfarnham Parish, Essex County, Virginia (1790) / compiled and arranged by Henry Harbin Byrom. By: Byrom, Henry Harbin, 1919- https://archive.org/details/somedescendantso00byro?q=Thurstan+de+Holland
- ^ Holland, Bernard Henry (1917). The Lancashire Hollands.
External links
[edit]- "Townships: Samlesbury". British History Online. Retrieved 2024-10-10.