Category talk:Canadian masters athletes
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Opposed speedy move request
[edit]- Category:Canadian masters athletes to Category:Canadian masters track and field athletes – C2C: Category:Canadian track and field athletes Kaffet i halsen (talk) 19:57, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose, @Kaffet i halsen the issue is that athletics and track and field don't have the same meaning, we have separate wiki pages for both terms. For example marathon runners may belong in Category:Canadian masters athletes but they're not track and field athletes per se. --Habst (talk) 15:54, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
- I find Category:Canadian marathon runners under Category:Canadian runners under Category:Canadian track and field athletes. In what way does masters marathon runners differ? This is the most recent discussion about the usage of (track and field) athletes for American/Canadian (as American is listed below). Kaffet i halsen (talk) 11:12, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Kaffet i halsen, all runners are track and field athletes, and all marathoners are runners, but not all marathoners are track and field athletes. This is nonsensical logically, but it's accurate linguistically in the way these words are currently used. To eliminate all confusion, I think that most American English "track and field" categories should be renamed to "track and field, cross country, or road racing" one day. --Habst (talk) 13:13, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
- Ok, unless that is brought up to discussion I meanwhile don't understand why there shall be a difference in between Category:Canadian athletes and Category:Canadian masters athletes. Kaffet i halsen (talk) 20:22, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Kaffet i halsen, all runners are track and field athletes, and all marathoners are runners, but not all marathoners are track and field athletes. This is nonsensical logically, but it's accurate linguistically in the way these words are currently used. To eliminate all confusion, I think that most American English "track and field" categories should be renamed to "track and field, cross country, or road racing" one day. --Habst (talk) 13:13, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
- I find Category:Canadian marathon runners under Category:Canadian runners under Category:Canadian track and field athletes. In what way does masters marathon runners differ? This is the most recent discussion about the usage of (track and field) athletes for American/Canadian (as American is listed below). Kaffet i halsen (talk) 11:12, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose there is an entire tree of Category:Masters athletes. –Aidan721 (talk) 19:48, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
- Yes, but this WP:ENGVAR shift athletes/track and field athletes also occurs in its siblings Category:Athletes by nationality, Category:Olympic athletes (track and field) by country, and alike. Kaffet i halsen (talk) 20:22, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose, @Kaffet i halsen the issue is that athletics and track and field don't have the same meaning, we have separate wiki pages for both terms. For example marathon runners may belong in Category:Canadian masters athletes but they're not track and field athletes per se. --Habst (talk) 15:54, 22 January 2025 (UTC)