Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors/Backlog elimination drives/January 2025

Review of my copyedit

Hello all,

given that it was my first major copy edit, could someone please review Generalstabsarzt if you have the time? Thank you. LightlySeared (talk) 10:05, 1 January 2025 (UTC)

I gave it a quick look, and it looks good; "reich" should be capitalized in this context, though, and the page should be tagged for more citations. Thanks for your help and all the best, Miniapolis 16:29, 1 January 2025 (UTC)

Thank you very much. I've done as you suggested. Have a nice new year. LightlySeared (talk) 18:10, 1 January 2025 (UTC)

Phibeatrice

Is killing it this month. Wow!!!!! Lfstevens (talk) 06:09, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

Reversion of copyedit

MapReader reverted one of my edits for "multiple LQ errors". Isn't this correct? Mox Eden (talk) 23:10, 9 January 2025 (UTC)

You changed to "a revisionist commentary on 21st-century policing." Which is correct if the quote ends with a period; otherwise, not. You changed to "...something different from other programmes...", when "to", not "from", is British usage, I believe. You changed to "problematic for a mainstream audience" when it is a quote. Did you change it because it had actually been mistranscribed? Only one of those is a "logical quotation"–style issue. I didn't see anything wrong with the rest of your edits. Dhtwiki (talk) 02:45, 10 January 2025 (UTC)

@Dhtwiki: "[A] revisionist commentary on 21st-century policing.": Does end with a period, as seen here. "[P]roblematic for a mainstream audience" was indeed mistranscribed, as seen here. Mox Eden (talk) 04:37, 10 January 2025 (UTC)

As per LQ, sentence fragments always carry punctuation outside. It has to be a full sentence, uncut, to have the full stop/period included within the quotation marks. MapReader (talk) 08:09, 10 January 2025 (UTC)

WP:LQ says Include terminal punctuation within the quotation marks only if it was present in the original material..., which doesn't preclude sentence fragments. It says, further down, If the quotation is a single word or a sentence fragment, place the terminal punctuation outside the closing quotation mark. When quoting a full sentence, the end of which coincides with the end of the sentence containing it, place terminal punctuation inside the closing quotation mark., which seems to preclude any sentence fragment. So, the MOS is somewhat at odds with itself. I would prefer the former wording, as the latter is unduly exclusive, and seemingly at odds with the longstanding practice of including periods with ellipsis marks, such as "...commentary on 21st-century policing....", if there is quoted material coming after an elision at the end of a quoted sentence. Dhtwiki (talk) 00:28, 11 January 2025 (UTC)

@Dhtwiki: So which is it? Mox Eden (talk) 07:03, 11 January 2025 (UTC)

I would place the ending quotation mark inside the punctuation, as an interested editor interprets the ambiguous wording of the MoS as dictating just that, and the sense is not harmed by thus doing so. I don't see the issue being resolved on the MoS talk page or its archives, but I haven't read deeply in the latter place (see this thread). Dhtwiki (talk) 10:20, 11 January 2025 (UTC)

It’s perfectly clear. The closing punctuation is required to be both in the original and it needs to be a full sentence, to be included within the quotation marks. Otherwise it goes outside. MapReader (talk) 14:17, 11 January 2025 (UTC)

Alright, that's it. If logical quotation issues are the only issue to my edits, can you at least fix just that and not the whole edit, per WP:MASSR? This is really getting on my nerves. Mox Eden (talk) 14:34, 11 January 2025 (UTC)

Knight of faith

Question

I recently completed a large copyedit on Knight of faith, however it was then converted into a redirect to Fear and Trembling. Should I take any action on my word count for it? Sophisticatedevening (talk) 19:23, 10 January 2025 (UTC)

No; you did what you did. Thanks for your help and all the best, Miniapolis 23:45, 10 January 2025 (UTC)