Wikipedia talk:Bug reports and feature requests/Archive 3

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Archive 1

Archive 2

Archive 3

Stopping spammers from finding my e-mail address at Bugzilla

Is there a way to prevent Bugzilla: from reporting my e-mail address for everyone to see? I figure spammers will find it fast. Will (Talk - contribs) 05:11, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

There's lots of services out there that offer throw-away email addresses. — Edward Z. Yang^(Talk) 05:58, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Moving to meta

Any reason the bulk of this documentation shouldn't be moved to meta? the wub "?!" 16:55, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

If you checked the page history, you'll notice that a long time ago, this page was used as a dumping ground for random bug reports and feature requests from English Wikipedia, much to many developer's dismay. Anyway, there was substantial opposition to nuking the page, so I rewrote it pointing users to the right place.

In short: probably not. — Edward Z. Yang^(Talk) 21:18, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

Pah, I don't need to check the page history - I remember those days. It certainly doesn't seem that long ago... am I turning into an "oldtimer"? Anyway great job on the rewrite, I just think it should be on meta to avoid duplication. the wub "?!" 00:24, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

cookies logging in

i know this isnt where im supposed to be with this, but i dont know where i am supposed to be, and bugzilla isnt opening. but i cant log in to wikipedia cause it says i have cookies disabled, which i have not, this problem keeps coming back from time to time. what could i do? lygophile 15:58, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

The appropriate place to ask a question like this is not this place or Bugzilla but Wikipedia:Village pump (technical). I'm sure some folks over there will be able to help you. Be sure to also say what your browser is. — Edward Z. Yang^(Talk) 17:11, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Cancel the account

Hi. I may want to cancel my account. Can I do it? Jet (talk) 22:14, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

Merge

I've noticed that Wikipedia:Bugzilla and Wikipedia:Bug reports seem to cover the same information. Anyone opposed to a merge of these or have another idea? --- RockMFR 07:02, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

Support merge. Certainly, GDonato (talk) 21:53, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Why not. Since Bugzilla seems to have been around longer, we should probably use that one as home-base. — Edward Z. Yang^(Talk) 00:39, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

I support merge. RS1900 06:07, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

I wouldn't suggest doing the merge as the Wikimedia bug reporting and Bugzilla are two completely different subjects which just happen to be about the same program. The Wikipedia:Bugzilla page should only be used to address information relating to the program itself, while the Wikipedia:Bug reports page should be used to address information regarding the bug reporting process for wikimedia projects.

--Knightcon 22:39, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

Special:Suffixindex

There is a request on talk page of Special:Prefixindex for Special:Suffixindex. I have to second that request. This will be invaluable for finding the noun part of names that have various adjectives. I'm thinking "X logic," "X philosophy," etc.

This may not be the right place to request this, however, this is perhaps the appropriate audience? I was recommended to this area. Be well and thanks for your work. Greg Bard 03:20, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Village pump (technical) is a good place if you want fast feedback. You should also file a bug at Bugzilla. --- RockMFR 03:55, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Wikimedia.de grep is a recently improved tool that allows you to search text strings anywhere they appear in the article name, or the title in any name space. GregManninLB (talk) 15:05, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Sulfuric Acid

It shows "한국어" under pages in other languages like 6 times.--§ Eloc § 22:27, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

Fixed. --- RockMFR 23:31, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

Login not working.

At first I thought I forgot my password. I put my login name in the field as instructed,

"If you have an account, but have forgotten your password, enter your login name below and submit a request to change your password."

but then it says it is not a valid email address. I put in my email address and reset the password, but it still won't work. --Gbleem 08:57, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

Logo

It would be great if the current logo had an image of a bug - see locust - added to it (to look like it was eating the flower). Drum guy (talk) 16:58, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Or Image:Empis livida (aka).jpg. Drum guy (talk) 23:07, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

Why are Bugzilla email addresses public?

I, and many others, can't report bugs because we don't want our email addresses public. I don't want my real name public either. Every Bugzilla report or comment shows the email address of the poster. Why can't bugzilla.wikimedia.org use unified login instead? It is a wikimedia.org site.

Some people say that we can use a throwaway email address and a fake Bugzilla login name. I already use several email addresses. One for email lists, one for personal use, and one for Wikipedia and other activism. I only check the email list one a few times a month or less. I check the personal one once a week. My friends mainly contact me through the email address I use for Wikipedia and other activism. My relatives use the phone mainly, and occasionally my personal email address.

I don't want a throwaway email address just for bugzilla because I will rarely use it or check it. So what good does it do for me or Bugzilla?

Why not use anonymous login? Wikipedia succeeded when it went from "expert" editing (by people using their real names) to broad editing by anyone whether logged in or not. Bugzilla will do better too with unified login or other anonymous login.

I use the Firefox browser. I have the same bug-reporting problem with Firefox. They probably did not hear about many problems with the beta versions of their Firefox 3 browser due to using bugzilla as their main form of bug reporting. See https://bugzilla.mozilla.org

I have not upgraded to Firefox 3 due to problems they introduced with Firefox 3. I use Firefox 2 still. I have tried reporting the problems on their forums, but just like at Wikimedia one has to use Bugzilla if anyone is to pay some real attention.

I appreciate that the developers have limited time, and that some are unpaid, but I also have limited time, and work on this unpaid. We are in this together, so let's work together better. Please let me report bugs, suggestions, and possible solutions. --Timeshifter (talk) 00:47, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

Strongly agreed. I appreciate the tip, tho, and will use a throwaway email address. --Chriswaterguy talk 19:25, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

I'm wondering: What problems did you identify in Firefox 3? Maybe it's something that I could vote for on the Mozilla Bugzilla for you. —Remember the dot ^(talk) 19:48, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, I didn't see your reply sooner. I am "penlamp" in this Mozilla forum thread that covers the various slow bookmarking problems in Firefox 3:

http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=718355

Sorry but ...

I'm not going to create a bugzilla account just to tell what I hope you already know. Especially if you're going to expose my email address and name.

So PRINTING ISN'T WORKING - if I print preview a page, I see a single blank page. If I select the printable version, I see what I'd expect, but again, if I print preview it, I see a blank page. I discovered this at http://en.wiki.x.io/w/index.php?title=Special_Member_State_territories_and_the_European_Union&printable=yes and tested on another random page before reporting.

I'm running Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-GB; rv:1.8.0.10) Gecko/20060911 SUSE/1.5.0.10-0.2 Firefox/1.5.0.10. Yes, I know it's old but (a) it used to work fine and (b) this is such a major breakage. FWIW, I'd guess it's some CSS change you've made; it usually is. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.111.85.79 (talk) 08:57, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Assyrian Syriac Wikipedia problem

Hi every one i have a problem with the documentation green box in our wikipedia it's not working properly for some reason i have tried so many things you can see it her http://arc.wiki.x.io/wiki/ܩܠܒܐ:Documentation/core . our problem is with green box and the border of fmbom aswell. thanks every one for the help in advance. Man2fly2002 (talk) 02:49, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

Please ask in http://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical) if this is still a problem. --Malyacko (talk) 17:01, 16 December 2012 (UTC)

Sandbox for Bugzilla comments

Bugzilla:39828 - Sandbox for testing links, including MediaWiki-style internal links, within Bugzilla comments. Tests have been done there for various link formats. You can see for yourself what works by clicking the links there and seeing where they go.

Do not add more comments to this Bugzilla thread unless absolutely necessary. Add new comments only to test types of links not already tested in the Bugzilla thread. For more info see:

Wikipedia:Bug reports and feature requests#Links from within Bugzilla --Timeshifter (talk) 18:22, 16 September 2012 (UTC)

Two office hours about the Bugzilla-to-Phabricator migration

Next week Qgil-WMF will host two office hours to answer your questions about the Bugzilla to Phabricator migration:

These will be on #wikimedia-office ^connect. Information about how to join is available at m:IRC office hours. The plan is to start the migration on Friday 21 November at 00:30 UTC. More information will be posted at mw:Phabricator/versus_Bugzilla. Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 20:40, 14 November 2014 (UTC)

Feature request

Well, this used to be much easier: Where can I submit/write (beta-)feature requests? I just find [1] and I have no clue where to put it there. -- Smoneck, 06/03/2015, 5:30 pm — Preceding unsigned comment added by Smoneck (talk • contribs) 15:30, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

I have a problem

Hello. I want to tell a problem which I observe. I translated "Triboelectric effect" topic from English to Turkish. My nickname was "Quasar88" when I translated this topic. I changed my nickname yesterday. My new nickname is "safakkoclu". However, when I look at the "View history" (in turkish "Geçmişi Gör") part of the "Sürtünme ile Elektriklenme" topic ( http://tr.wiki.x.io/w/index.php?title=S%C3%BCrt%C3%BCnme_ile_Elektriklenme&action=history ), My new nickname does not exist in this page. My old nickname which is "Quasar88" is available. Could you help me ? I want to see my nick name in "view history" part of this topic. How can we change? This is link :

http://tr.wiki.x.io/w/index.php?title=S%C3%BCrt%C3%BCnme_ile_Elektriklenme&action=history

thank you. --Safakkoclu (talk) 09:25, 21 May 2016 (UTC)

@Safakkoclu: See meta:Changing username. --Izno (talk) 09:23, 22 May 2016 (UTC)

Content redacted shows on my watchlist

I continue to see content redacted on my watchlist from the following transactions:

(Deletion log); 18:48 . . GorillaWarfare (talk | contribs) changed visibility of 2 revisions on page African Americans: edit summary hidden ‎(RD2: Grossly insulting, degrading, or offensive material)
(Deletion log); 18:47 . . GorillaWarfare (talk | contribs) changed visibility of 2 revisions on page Talk:African Americans: edit summary hidden and content unhidden ‎(RD2: Grossly insulting, degrading, or offensive material)
(Deletion log); 18:47 . . GorillaWarfare (talk | contribs) changed visibility of a revision on page Talk:African Americans: content hidden ‎(RD2: Grossly insulting, degrading, or offensive material)

Is this suppose to happen? Thanks. Mitchumch (talk) 02:35, 10 January 2017 (UTC)

I've moved this query to Wikipedia:Village pump (technical). Looks like this page is inactive. Mitchumch (talk) 13:51, 14 January 2017 (UTC)

WikiProject Updater BOT

I can access the main WikiProject Updater page, but when I search for a section in WP:MILHIST/Biography – there seems to be some lag or it takes a while to locate the actual articles in that list. Adamdaley (talk) 04:53, 29 September 2018 (UTC)

Seems to be lagging again, today, September 30, 2019. Adamdaley (talk) 04:21, 30 September 2018 (UTC)

Vertical alignment in tables

I started a discussion at WT:MOSTABLE#Vertical alignment in tables regarding vertical alignment in tables. The default parameter is middle, and after learning more about mobile views of Wikipedia, I would like to make the case that the default parameter should be top. Most browsing is done on mobile nowadays, so that means when it comes to viewing a table on a smaller screen, the values in a multi-row presentation should be seen at the top. Otherwise one has to scroll down to see what the value is, then scroll back up to continue reading the table. An example of this is here. Or if this is too big of a request, surely it is acceptable to occasionally use the parameters. WP:DTT does not say to avoid it, and Help:Table explains how to implement it. The only complaint I've seen is an editor saying that it looks weird, and that's only because we're used to the desktop-bias of the default parameter being in the middle. Erik (talk | contrib) ^{(ping me)} 14:44, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

Rogue user?

I was just notified that my subscription had been removed from a Task on Phabricator [2] and when I went to look at what was going on, I discovered that an account only created today [3] has been setting Tasks to "invalid" and modifying subscriber lists left, right and centre.

What's up with that? —Phil | Talk 17:32, 1 August 2019 (UTC)

@Phil Boswell: just a vandal, Nforcer7 has been blocked on phabricator now, someone will likely be undoing their recent actions if its not done yet. — xaosflux ^Talk 17:46, 1 August 2019 (UTC)

@Xaosflux: thanks, that reassures me, I was wondering what on earth was going on! —Phil | Talk 14:00, 2 August 2019 (UTC)

Mistaken block report on a senior editor

Hello - my user statistics page here reports that I was blocked for 1,030 days, but this exchange with an admin explains the mistake. How do I get my block days changed from 1,030 days (apparently an ongoing school IP block) to my block history (3 blocks, each for 1 day)? Thanks. --Zefr (talk) 21:12, 23 March 2020 (UTC)

zefr This cannot be done in your "user statistics" page. Best not to worry about these things. --Izno (talk) 23:20, 23 March 2020 (UTC)

Izno - thanks, but not a worry. Just looks like a conspicuous blemish and, at the surface, puzzles why it isn't easily fixed. Why can't the edit history that caused the error just be deleted? The Phabrictor team seems to have the capability, but it's a low-level task for them. --Zefr (talk) 23:39, 23 March 2020 (UTC)

Kiernan Holland's suggestions

Wall of text regarding proposed article-change viewer by user with 1 lifetime edit

Feature Request: A special see-thru mode, could be implemented with HTML5 I think, the page prints normally but you have some processes that perform a chronological edit calculation to find items that changed frequently in a short amount of time, the more static content would remain unmarked, then you could offer a timeline such as the one that is on the interarchive that shows the frequemcy of article change, you probably have your site archived so you could just offer a link to that, but it would be nicer if you did it (and maybe share your idea with them so they could implement it there too) . Anyhow I'm imagining that this would look like transparency with the often changed content appearing with a blur of color behind it showing a clutter of previous edits, not the actual edits but the bounding box of and increasing transparency, the color mode used to identify the changes could be augmented over time, as you see fit, but I think such a feature would help people to identify items in flux and determine which content is more dependable, possibly even able to identify when the article was less in flux. Visualizations like this could be performed on a cloud computer if you lack the computing resources to do this. I imagine it would just take the logged edit history and apply rules that identify clusters of edits within various time frames. Also you could add a mode that shows edits in flux that involved trusted sources (people with high ratings). For your own use you could offer a view mode that shows to your moderators edits that haven't been reviewed, even as they are looking up content themselves. You could add a message system that permits you to "wall" the trusted moderators that an article under thei supervision has outstanding edits that haven't been reviewed. It would be best to do this this way than to send them notifications on everything as it will show them the articles people care about more recent, especially of those they trust in the community.

I'm not a moderator, I'm familiar with the bots that moderate for them, but unless the bots are familiar with view counts of the pages, or the precise things people are looking at, they could be overbearing for the mdoerators, making the task of moderation daunting, particular if the notifications match articles that nobody really cares about (view counts low).. --KiernanHolland (talk) 17:53, 7 September 2020 (UTC)

Some from AltSpaceVR may know me, I'm on there frequently, sing 60+ songs lyrics and all (which in karaoke, I'm called up when they need someone to offer new content) and have a MTV resurrection YouTube mashup called RockMeAmade.us (in the first days of cable, people thought that by paying for cable they would not get advertisements, so for the first year, MTV had no ads)/

now I know that YouTube cannot put ads (other than banner ads, the banner ads are not usable by anybody outside of the US which I think is to encourage copyright infringing music videos, iwht the WMG only knew why that stuff always gets back up there, foreign nationals make money on the banner ads so it is an incentive to put up copyrighted content) on their embeds as the advertiser would have to agree with the context of the website their ad is placed in (example pro-life ad in an abortion clinic website) so my site is naturally ad free.  Got to know Ton Roosendaal in the early days and suggested his first implementation of undo and redo in the program which was a linked list of object edits, simple and worked, I had actually suggested data deltas instead of just a link list of objects, but he did the quick solution. I know how to fix healthcare informatics, int he early 2000s I got involved with a guy named David Kilman who sought a need for cradle to grave healthcare record system and at the time he was

using a computer language agnostic RPC based integration technology called CORBA, it was designed he said to do message passing between nodes in parallel computers so it is far more efficient than say java and XML, I believe that the reason Microsoft supports XML in the first place is to permit obfuscation and make compliance checks harder (which is easier to determine compliance a method interface or a data file? Also when you need information do you download the entire XML file or do you ask for pieces from a object instance).. Anyhow, the Telemed project the LANL (Los Alamos Lab) was working on covered everything necessary to do things like arbitrary fuzzy-logic biometric scoring of records to determine possible person id matches, it was free from master patient ID's, usually when clinics correlate their patient records is when a hospital buys them up and the hospital correlates its master patient record to the record systems of the clinics, so the only clinics that can share patient records are the ones owned by the same hospital, peer2peer correlation is currently not possible, you cannot do an international search for possible records of a patient based on biometric and ID9 (name address, etc) or even facebook friends, tattoos, and such, and when you come across a record system of a HIV clinic, do you return the results or say no or even respond, I discussed the se suggestions and even permitting patients to control the sale of their cancer information when they survived, such data is invaluable to drug companies but some institutions sell such information illegally to drug companies.. I thought of all this stuff, but since we lacked the funding, and private industry force the labs to stop developing telemed, all that is left of it is specifications available from the OMG (OMG.org). I currently work as a bagger for Kroger, but only because I have a trust that pays me half of my fathers salary (he was a nuclear physicist), as long as I meet the criteria of someone who is handicapped (I have a learning difference called Aphasia which is a kind of audio perception problem like having aural dyslexia, I watch documentaries a lot).

Now I'm imagining your bots will pick this out, but maybe it will remain in the edit logs, that's why I chose to edit the talk section and not the main article. --KiernanHolland (talk)

Collapsed per WP:NOTFORUM and WP:NOTWEBHOST. Mathglot (talk) 08:32, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

There was a prototype system like this proposed one, a few years ago. Screenshots and details are collated at w:de:Benutzer:Atlasowa/edit history visualization#WikiWho, whoCOLOR and whoVIS. Hopefully something similar will be restarted/recreated in the future. Hope that helps. Quiddity (talk) 21:12, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

Help

Hi, if anyone reads this, please help, on the article, 'Kuruluş: Osman', there is a piece of information that can't be deleted for some reason and it is only seen on 'visual edit' and not 'source edit'. It is obviously also seen when on 'read' mode. I want to delete this information because it is simply not true, not in the correct place, no punctuation and no reason what-so-ever to even exist. Is this glitched, is it hacked, I don't know. Please help. I suspect this person to do this (73.254.236.165) because he made an edit (which was also fake and removed by me) that had the same description as this weird edit, it says, Rumored to come in season 2, Osmans second wife. I wanted to add references to some of my information today but I wasted my time trying to delete this annoying sentence located at the top of the 'Cast and Characters' section. Limorina (talk) 13:49, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

Link from Wikipedia to Phabricator task.

How to create a link (interwiki link) from Wikipedia / Wikimedia projects to Phabricator task?. --BoldLuis (talk) 14:06, 8 January 2021 (UTC)

BoldLuis: phab: with the ticket number at the end, I believe. There's also {{Phab}}. Killiondude (talk) 03:25, 11 January 2021 (UTC)

Thank you a lot BoldLuis (talk) 07:07, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

Bug reports rely on Mediawiki accounts, but Mediawiki account creation is not accessible.

Since we're supposed to create Mediawiki accounts to report bugs, how are we supposed to report bugs which make it impossible to create accounts? As I type a username, parts of the page jump up and down, triggering a migraine. 138.88.18.245 (talk) 15:09, 7 August 2021 (UTC)

You can contact the mailing list at: wikitech-l

lists.wikimedia.org. As for your specific problem, try another browser or computer. — xaosflux ^Talk 22:53, 7 August 2021 (UTC)

Hidden categories conflict

These two hidden tracking categories: "Short description is different from Wikidata" and "Short description matches Wikidata" appear simultatenously at Century: Age of Ashes. Should that be fixed? Thanks! — WILDSTAR^TALK 22:59, 22 November 2021 (UTC)

Both the infobox and the manual template were trying to set this, I fixed the manual entry. — xaosflux ^Talk 02:03, 25 December 2022 (UTC)

Multiple Migraine Triggers

Hi,

I encounter a number of nasty migraine triggers when trying to use Wikipedia. I can't log in to create a bug report. But:

1. Several pages link to Open Street Maps, but depending on users' font settings, the warning may not show up. I accidentally went to Open Street Maps, and got hit with animated zooming. I have my system and browser set to reduce motion, but the site ignores these settings and animates zooming anyway.

2. I tried to create a new section in a talk page, and Wikipedia animated scrolling down to the new section. I have my browser set to disable smooth scrolling and reduce motion, but the site ignores this.

3. I was unable to log in and ended up on this page here: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Reset_password which has parts of the page scroll while other parts do not. I have my system and browser set to reduce motion, but that doesn't synchronise these. 173.73.0.102 (talk) 03:18, 29 October 2022 (UTC)

3B. If I try to page down on the help page, the site then animates smooth scrolling in the sidebar... 173.73.0.102 (talk) 03:19, 29 October 2022 (UTC)