Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Mikhail Petrovich Petrov (general)
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I am nominating this article for A-Class review because I would like to improve this article as much as possible and the Russian-Soviet-CIS Military History Task Force hasn't had any Soviet Army-related A-class articles added in months. Kges1901 (talk) 17:35, 16 September 2016 (UTC)
Image review
- File:Portrait_-_Petrov,_Michail_Petrovich.jpg: when/where was this first published? Nikkimaria (talk) 20:38, 24 September 2016 (UTC)
- Image seems to come from В начале войны by Andrey Yeryomenko, from 1965. However, it may be reproduced from an earlier photograph. Kges1901 (talk) 21:21, 24 September 2016 (UTC)
- Okay - that source would not seem to meet the requirements of the given copyright tag. Nikkimaria (talk) 13:21, 25 September 2016 (UTC)
- The third bullet in PD-RUSSIA says "This work was originally published anonymously or under a pseudonym before January 1, 1943 and the name of the author did not become known during 50 years after publication." Petrov died in 1941 so the work had to have been published before. At least that's how I understand it. Kges1901 (talk) 15:07, 25 September 2016 (UTC)
- Do you have a pre-1943 publication? It's quite possible that a work is not published until after its subject's death. Nikkimaria (talk) 16:15, 25 September 2016 (UTC)
- The third bullet in PD-RUSSIA says "This work was originally published anonymously or under a pseudonym before January 1, 1943 and the name of the author did not become known during 50 years after publication." Petrov died in 1941 so the work had to have been published before. At least that's how I understand it. Kges1901 (talk) 15:07, 25 September 2016 (UTC)
- Okay - that source would not seem to meet the requirements of the given copyright tag. Nikkimaria (talk) 13:21, 25 September 2016 (UTC)
- I don't have access to one. However, perhaps another editor has access to Pravda or Isvestia archives? Because there may be a photo of him in either of those newspapers from before 1943. Kges1901 (talk) 18:59, 25 September 2016 (UTC)
- Image seems to come from В начале войны by Andrey Yeryomenko, from 1965. However, it may be reproduced from an earlier photograph. Kges1901 (talk) 21:21, 24 September 2016 (UTC)
Support Comments: G'day, nice work. I have the following suggestions: AustralianRupert (talk) 13:44, 26 September 2016 (UTC)
- I did some copy editing, please check you are happy with my changes and adjust as you see fit;
- per MOS:LEAD citations aren't needed in the lead so long as the information is suitably referenced in the body of the article;
- in the early life section it isn't explicitly stated that he moved to Petrograd, or when;
- link "Bolsheviks" on first mention;
- "Petrov was transferred to Central Asia..." do we know roughly when this was?
- "...but was moved forward to Baranovichi to stop the German advance". When was this? Would this work: "but was moved forward to Baranovichi to stop the German advance, after the initial German breakthrough"?
- link "Stavka" on first mention.
Comments. As always, feel free to revert my copyediting. - Dank (push to talk)
- "October/November": See MOS:SLASH.
- The page title should probably be Mikhail Petrovich Petrov, as it's listed at Petrov (surname).
- Support on prose per my standard disclaimer. These are my edits. - Dank (push to talk) 17:31, 26 September 2016 (UTC)
- There is another Mikhail Petrovich Petrov, a Soviet Army lieutenant colonel and Hero of the Soviet Union, as well as another Mikhail Petrovich Petrov, this time and Udmurt Soviet writer. Kges1901 (talk) 18:12, 26 September 2016 (UTC)
- Would it be possible to create a stub for at least one of those? - Dank (push to talk) 18:17, 26 September 2016 (UTC)
- There is another Mikhail Petrovich Petrov, a Soviet Army lieutenant colonel and Hero of the Soviet Union, as well as another Mikhail Petrovich Petrov, this time and Udmurt Soviet writer. Kges1901 (talk) 18:12, 26 September 2016 (UTC)
Support Comments All good to go, but there is something to be fixed regarding the death. All the citations regarding the death of Petrov ([1], [2], Vozhakin, ed 2005, pp. 172–173., Parrish 2004, p. 290.) clearly mention that he died on 10 October 1941. But why was it mentioned as "October or November 1941" in the Infobox and lead? Regards, Krishna Chaitanya Velaga (talk • mail) 04:10, 2 October 2016 (UTC)
- Because Erickson and Alexander Petrov said otherwise. Kges1901 (talk) 08:18, 2 October 2016 (UTC)
- In that case, please clarify that using a footnote. Regards, Krishna Chaitanya Velaga (talk • mail) 11:09, 2 October 2016 (UTC)
- @Krishna Chaitanya Velaga: Problem solved with footnote. Kges1901 (talk) 21:18, 3 October 2016 (UTC)
- @Kges1901: All good to go. Support per my GA review. Regards, Krishna Chaitanya Velaga (talk • mail) 09:19, 4 October 2016 (UTC)
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