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Article promoted by Peacemaker67 (talk) via MilHistBot (talk) 06:06, 26 December 2015 (UTC) « Return to A-Class review list[reply]

Nominator(s): Hawkeye7 (talk)

Jacob L. Devers (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

The second most senior general in Europe in World War II remained poorly known (and his name frequently mispronounced - it's Dev-ers not Deev-ers) for decades. Suddenly, he has two biographies. And now a good Wikipedia article. Hawkeye7 (talk) 21:41, 28 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

SupportComments: fantastic work, as usual. Just a few nitpicks from me: AustralianRupert (talk) 23:41, 28 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Comments:

  • As always, feel free to revert my copyediting.
  • From now on, I'm doing the same things at A-class that I've been doing at Peer Review, and not supporting or opposing. I've copyedited down to Between the wars and skimmed the rest, and I don't think prose issues will be a problem at WP:FAC, if you want to take it there after you're done here. At FAC, I'll be happy to support on prose and copyedit the rest, although I may wait until you get one or two supports first.
  • Technically, Between the wars is a violation of WP:HEADING since it's not a noun phrase, although it's a quite common violation. - Dank (push to talk) 03:42, 6 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Tidied references, added a few isbn and oclc from Worldcat.Keith-264 (talk) 09:52, 19 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • CommentsSupport - it's a good article, but I'm still slightly short of a support, some thoughts below:
  • "was a general in the United States Army who, during World War II, commanded the 6th Army Group in the European Theater. " - would "was a general in the United States Army who commanded the 6th Army Group in the European Theater during World War II." flow more naturally?
    checkY possibly. Done. Hawkeye7 (talk) 10:22, 20 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • "when the idea of phasing out horses" - surely it wasn't the idea that met opposition, so much as the "the proposal to phase out"?
    There was no proposal. Hawkeye7 (talk) 10:22, 20 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • "heavily armed and armored tanks." - should there be hyphens here as compound adjectives?
    No idea. @Dank: Any ideas? Hawkeye7 (talk) 10:22, 20 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    Not in that phrase; I haven't looked at the context. - Dank (push to talk) 13:59, 20 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • "8 September 1887" but "November 11 armistice" - should really be consistent... (NB: the 11 November armistice wiki article uses the number first)
    checkY Corrected. Hawkeye7 (talk) 10:22, 20 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • "His major task was the construction of new playing fields when there did not appear to be any available land." - "playing fields, despite there not appearing to be any available land"? (otherwise the "when" isn't quite right)
    checkY Changed to "where" Hawkeye7 (talk) 10:22, 20 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • "93 miles of roads" - needs a metric equivalent
    checkY Done. Hawkeye7 (talk) 10:22, 20 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • "A Tank Destroyer Centre was created" - is the capitalisation correct here? (the "A" suggests its not a proper name)
    checkY Capitalization is correct; spelling was wrong. Corrected. Hawkeye7 (talk) 10:22, 20 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • "the railroad reached Lyon with a capacity of 3,000 tons per day. Devers pressed Gray for 15,000 tons." - metric equivalents needed
    checkY Tried to do this. Hawkeye7 (talk) 10:22, 20 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • "he would only be able to supply Patton with 1,000 tons per day" - ditto
    checkY Even more tricky. Hawkeye7 (talk) 10:22, 20 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Devers hired a civilian secretary, Dorothy Benn, a widow whose husband, an Army Air Forces pilot, had been list as missing in action in New Guinea in 1943 and was presumed dead until his body was found in 1957." - the second half lives oddly here, as you don't find out why it is at all relevant until several sections later. Could the bit about being a widow etc. go down to the last paragraph of "Retirement and post-military career"?
    I think it works here, which is chronologically correct.Hawkeye7 (talk) 10:22, 20 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Worth noting that when I was reading it, I did a quick "search this page" to find out why we were going into such detail about Benn's missing husband... I'd got no idea as a casual reader what the significance was. The next time she gets mentioned it was to be promoted to being his assistant, and it wasn't until the third mention that it explains they eventually get married. Hchc2009 (talk) 10:26, 20 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I figured that would be the case, but the point is that they knew each other for many years. It also provides another example of Devers generosity towards veterans and their families. Hawkeye7 (talk) 19:20, 20 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.