Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/AnomieBOT 11
- The following discussion is an archived debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. The result of the discussion was
Approved.
Automatic or Manually Assisted: automatic, unsupervised
Programming Language(s): Perl
Function Summary: Close discussions at Wikipedia:IFD where and admin forgot, and some other tasks there.
Edit period(s) (e.g. Continuous, daily, one time run): continuous, hourly
Already has a bot flag (Y/N): Y
Function Details: Per request, the bot will do the following at Wikipedia:IFD:
- Close nominations (following the instructions) where the image has been deleted. The bot will wait at least an hour after the deletion to give the deleting admin plenty of time to do it themself.
- Close nominations where the image does not exist.
- Close nominations where the image is on Commons.
- Subst {{ifd top}} and {{ifd bottom}}, when editing the page to do any of the above.
- Maintain the list at Wikipedia:IFD#Old discussions.
Discussion
[edit]The source is available here. It parses the page into sections, extracts the ==== sections, and pulls the image out of the section title. Then it queries the API imageinfo to determine if the imagerepository is local, Commons, or empty; downloads the most recent deletion log entry for the image if necessary; and takes action appropriately. It does all this hourly for all recent IFD subpages (where "recent" is defined as "since the earliest IFD subpage where I saw an unclosed discussion the previous hour", with the initial run using Oct 31, 2008).
The bot currently detects whether a section is already closed by looking for either the unsubsted {{ifd top}} or <div class="boilerplate metadata vfd xfd-closed" at the beginning of the section, just under the header. If any section (including section 0) contains either of those two markers anyplace other than immediately after the ==== section header, the bot will complain on its own talk page and not make any edit to the affected IFD page. Every edit summary also contains a link to the task's shutoff page, in case the bot is doing anything wrong. Anomie⚔ 03:44, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
- I am not sure if there is consensus to run this task. I actually embarked on doing a very similar task and I posted on recent IFD user's talk page (1, 2) as well as on the Wikipedia talk page and only got back 1 unfavorable response. I would personally be for this bot to start standardizing the IFD process and make it easier for others to help out and remove blacklog. MatthewYeager 19:20, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
- First of all, sorry that I did not see your proposal before making my request. Then, I do not see any reason to believe there can be dissent. The bot's job is to close those sections where discussion cannot possibly be done anymore because a decision has already been made. Anyone disagreeing with the deletion can not reverse it by posting at the IfD, so why keep it open if the image was deleted?
- I think Jordan 1972's reasoning is not correct on the talk page. As I said, if the image is deleted, discussion is useless. And most admins fail to close the sections, otherwise there would not be need for this bot. Even Jordan 1972 does not disagree with the main task of the bot, closing IfDs that are deleted already. If there is not much opposition here, I think based on your and my support for this task that consensus is indeed for it not against it. As I said at my request for this bot, nothing this bot would do would be different from what an admin would have to do manually. Regards SoWhy 21:13, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
- Hi Mathew, I didn't mean to repeat your work; did you get your bot coded, or was it just in the proposal stage? I've invited Jordan 1972 to comment here; looking at the discussion you linked, the only overlap here is in item #4 in your proposal, which Jordan didn't have a strong objection to. I do agree with Jordan that going back through the old IFD pages wouldn't be very useful, and relisting unclosed IFDs would be a major change to the current process. Anomie⚔ 03:46, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
- No problems from me. I coded up some stuff, but it is not a big deal. I do not see a problem with this request, and would support its' function. Thank you for your time, MatthewYeager 18:24, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
- Hi Mathew, I didn't mean to repeat your work; did you get your bot coded, or was it just in the proposal stage? I've invited Jordan 1972 to comment here; looking at the discussion you linked, the only overlap here is in item #4 in your proposal, which Jordan didn't have a strong objection to. I do agree with Jordan that going back through the old IFD pages wouldn't be very useful, and relisting unclosed IFDs would be a major change to the current process. Anomie⚔ 03:46, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
- Approved for trial (25 edits). Please provide a link to the relevant contributions and/or diffs when the trial is complete. --uǝʌǝsʎʇɹoɟʇs(st47) 23:27, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
- 17 edits done.[1] If you want the other 8, it'll have to wait until more images are deleted (or more people nominate Commons images for deletion). Anomie⚔ 02:01, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
- 4 more done,[2] 4 left. Anomie⚔ 15:38, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
- Finally, last 4.[3] Anomie⚔ 02:44, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
Approved. --Chris 08:27, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
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