User talk:XLinkBot/Archive 2

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Bot may be inaccurate/malfunctioning

Your bot reverted this edit, even though the links (which were example.com) that weren't in my version were spamming. Honestly, I'm starting to wonder who's the spammer. Me, or your bot. (ironicly, it blocks example.com) 98.226.32.129 (talk) 05:32, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

Yes, your edit is diff, where you add example.com links. These links are often added in a way which do not comply with our policies and guidelines (which includes, but is not only spamming). I do believe the old version gave a more clear description than using example.com, so I reverted. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 13:30, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

Monty Python's Official YouTube Channel

Monty Python has started their official online video channel on YouTube and that should be reflected in their page -- Monty Python and in Monty Python Mediagraphy, this channel is legally started by the creators of that content. So, this is no copyright violation. Can you please set this exception to the bot and allow the link -- http://www.youtube.com/user/MontyPython to be posted!? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ravi (talk • contribs) 07:52, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

facebook/myspace links

are these not allowed to be added when they are the official pages owned by a channel? Thanks.

98.116.179.98 (talk) 02:09, 20 November 2008 (UTC)m

Depends, they may be appropriate, if they are the official myspaces of the subject of the page, otherwise they are generally not appropriate as external links. And even when they are the official myspaces, per the external links guideline (see the intro), they should add something to the page, we are not an internet directory. I hope this explains. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 11:16, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

CPI(M)

The crimesofcpim.blogspot.com external link was deleted but it is a site which has media reports and give an authoritative version of activities of CPI(M).It should be restored. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 140.247.228.165 (talk) 06:14, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

99 Luftballons

The bot is trying to delete the external link - http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZdMymMwf2c - on the 99 luftballons. please can you stop this as it is legit. Thanks (User: Edsteroo ) —Preceding undated comment was added at 20:02, 22 November 2008 (UTC).

Deborah Gibson

Official myspace page as noted clearly in the url and on the website is: http://www.myspace.com/officialdeborahgibson

This Debbie's Myspace page is a spam link on the resource, and needs correcting. http://www.myspace.com/deborahanngibson

Additionally Soulja Boy is a male, reference to him on this resource page is not in any way relevant. Deborah Gibson is a female, accurately stated (she was the youngest FEMALE to write, produce and perform a #1 hit with her song Foolish Beat.) also needs correcting.

Thank you for your attention to this matter. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.190.45.238 (talk) 19:05, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

If the links comply with the policies and guidelines cited in the remark on your talkpage, then you can just revert the bot, it will not revert that. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 12:58, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

For an Awesome Bot!

		The Bot award
		To the most useful and overworked bot on Wikipedia. For reverting spam in the blink of an eye, thus allowing editors to... well, edit. Paxse (talk) 03:40, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

A splendid bot that saves me a hell of a lot of time. By concentrating only on old links (thanks to your bot), I'm now finally beginning to get ahead of the spam in Cambodia-related articles. I've reviewed many, many, many of your bots edits to articles on my watchlist and today found the very first occasion when some decent content had been rolled-back along with the inappropriate link - this was easily fixed. That's a damn good average. I hope my editing history is half as good. By the way, you and the Bot each get one. Cheers, Paxse (talk) 03:40, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

Adding a link to Wikipedia

I would like the link for the official myspace page of New Oxford, Pa Official Myspace page of New Oxford, Pa The page has been up for some time, and is used by many of New Oxford's residents past and present. I would like to bot to stop removing this link, from the official Wikipedia entry. Heathinjersey (talk) 03:57, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

We are not a linkfarm or an internet directory, and I am afraid that this myspace fails the external links guideline. I'd suggest you to discuss the link on the talkpage first. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 12:59, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

Azma.com

Could you add Azma.com to your list, per Talk:Asthma#Azma.com? I'm not sure that I'll be able to figure out the format for the RevertList page and don't want to screw anything up. Thanks, WhatamIdoing (talk) 18:01, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

I'll do that. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 13:00, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

updating link

I attempted to update a link to one of my articles. I did not list that article, but the link which is there goes to a now defunct webpage. (AOL went out of the web hosting business.) The current link for the exact same article is http://mysite.verizon.net/nhindman/research/large.pdf . If it is not possible (or somehow unethical -- though I can't imagine how) to update the link, then at least the old one should be eliminated.

Neil Hindman 71.251.59.46 (talk) 14:50, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

.. 'one of my articles' .. maybe you should have a read through WP:OWN, WP:COI, WP:RS etc. However, if you do think that the link is of interest and appropriate for the article after reading the cited policies and guidelines, just undo the bot. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 17:29, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

I have updated the ref so that it links to an independent source (via the doi). I think that is better. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 17:39, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

Can you assist?

http://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrator_intervention_against_vandalism#Please_assist.

Thanks much! 207.237.61.26 (talk) 07:51, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

Nope, the bot can't do anything here. All we (humans) can do is keep an eye on the article, as he threatens to use open proxies, I would suggest to report next IPs who perform similar edits to WP:OP. You could try one of XLinkBot's friends, User:VOABot III (is this friend still active?), or User:ClueBot. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 12:42, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

The article could have been protected or semi-protectsd, as it is now. Thanks for nothing. Please see http://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/User_talk:Ruslik0#World_AIDS_Day . 207.237.61.26 (talk) 06:00, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, I saw the comment way after the issue was active. Next time you may want to go to an administrator directly or to e.g. WP:AIV or WP:ANI (depending on the problem). --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 15:21, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

Not all Flickr Group Pages are illegitamate

I'm new to wikipedia, but I had a link reverted by this bot recently that I disagree with.

I added a group page from Flickr.com to an article about The Art Institute of Fort Lauderdale. ( http://en.wiki.x.io/w/index.php?title=User_talk:98.211.129.152 )

The group page was designed to showcase work by students at that school. So while the bot seems to think of it as spam or a "personal promotion" because it is on a popular social network, it is actually relevant to the page because it features only work that comes out of that particular school's students and faculty.

Am I right to think that it should not have been removed?

98.211.129.152 (talk) 18:45, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

Hmm. Difficult case. Practically all flickr pages are inappropriate, but if they were all inappropriate we would simple blacklist to make things easier. The bot reverts additions according to rules on its revertlist, but we know that there are some which are appropriate anyway (I did recently look at MySpace links, it did revert some that are appropriate, but most of them were not). I am not sure how to qualify this one. It appears that this one is "written" by the "subject" of the page, and might be OK. I guess this is one for discussion on talkpages, but if you think that it is appropriate per the policies and guidelines cited in the message (there are more reasons why external links on certain servers are unwanted, flickr links e.g. often are not by subject, but about subject, or are in violation of copyright, or simply unnecessery as we are not a linkfarm), undo the bot edit (it will not revert that). Hope this explains. ----Beetstra (public) (Dirk Beetstra^{T C} on public computers) 19:39, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

Working correctly?

Is your bot working correctly? It failed to revert this edit and your bot seemed active at the time. It is listed at User:XLinkBot/RevertList as \buncyclopedia\.wikia\.com\b.--Otterathome (talk) 16:15, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

Hmm, seems to work fine, it does occasionally miss edits, maybe this is one. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 16:23, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

glitch on Debbie Gibson

Looks like your bot had a glitch and reverted a set of valid edits on Debbie Gibson. See this edit. I've reverted, but thought you'd want to know. It appears it was trying to delete a myspace URL, but instead removed valid intervening edits. TJRC (talk) 01:44, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

It reverts all edits by someone who adds/changes a link on the revertlist, just a glitch, the message left on the talkpage suggests the user to undo if all is good. Hope this explains. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 14:15, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

Lincoln Highway

Thanks for your help. Perhaps you can assist in creating a link to the film clip of "God's Country"? Any help would be appreciated!

You're asking a bot to help you in assisting? --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 14:17, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

Michael Lee (Musician)

Would you please refrain from removing the infobox from Michael Lee (musician). As far as I'm aware myspace links are acceptable if official, which this one is.

92.11.140.5 (talk) 14:07, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

If there is no better then this official site, then yes, myspace is allowed. If the bot is really in error, undo the edit of the bot (as suggested in the message on your talkpage). I hope this explains. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 14:17, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

Interview at Scottish TV

How on earth did a link of an ITV company in Britain ,Scottish TV in this case , with an interview of a singer describing his early work get deleted [1] .I reverted it back Garda40 (talk) 16:59, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

Simple, stv.tv is on the revertlist because of long term spamming, amongst others by editors using IPs in the company range (the reverted IP is owned by the Scottish Media Group; see Wikipedia:Conflict of interest). An account already earned a block for similar editing. These editors have been asked over and over again to use their links in a more appropriate way, as we are not a linkfarm or an internet directory. Some links are welcome, but we do not have to link to all interviews available, and information from interviews is perfectly suitable to expand articles (and per the intro of Wikipedia:External links, are better used to get info from and use as a reference). Thanks for pointing me to the IP again, it still seems to be the same problem, I presume it is time for a block on that IP(-range). --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 16:25, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

Please preserve my paragraph on Alan McKay

Dear wikipedia folks,

It appears that your BOT removed (and I have now restored) a paragraph about Alan McKay that I added last night to the Soap Bubble page. Alan McKay is generally regarded by professional soap bubble performers as the world bubble champion. No one has been able to document bubbles larger than his 113-foot tube or his 14-foot spheres. The external link I added goes to photos and a video demonstrating this, along with a discussion aimed at improving Guinness record documentation of soap bubbles. (I was the Guinness record-holder for nine years prior to Alan, and at Guinness's request wrote the rules for the "longest bubble" category.)

David Stein, inventor <personal info removed>—Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.203.4.73 (talk • contribs)

Thanks for pointing me to this. I have reverted again, and blocked you for 31 hours. Please stop your blatant self promotion, wikipedia is not a soapbox! Please refrain from performing this edit again without proper discussion on talkpages. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 13:00, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

Re: 67.244.75.51

Hi - it appears this user has chosen to ignore your warning, and is continuing to re-add the same junk data. There was recent trouble with 69.122.210.59 abusing multiple accounts, to add similar data (including plugs for Handley's book), and I wonder if there's a connection? Could this be Handley, back for another round? (I would roll back the new edits myself, but I don't want to be accused of "owning" the articles in question. Even if I did create most of them.) Zephyrad (talk) 04:23, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

Seems that it has been resolved. Maybe the user was reverting after reading the warnings, not necesserily after ignoring them. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 08:04, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

Overkill

Your bot removed links to perfectly good historical works on the Web, one of which is only available otherwise as a manuscript in one location in the world! Please lay off the overzealous editing! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.76.153.122 (talk) 14:48, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

Geocities links are very often a problem, but I see you did the right thing and reverted the bot. Thanks. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 08:07, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

Rusty Eye COI tag

Hello, hope you are doing good. I was wondering if you had seen my last post on my talk page returning yours and if you had any more suggestions regard the Rusty Eye COI matter. Best, Dellamortedellamore (talk) 22:44, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for the understanding! The bot did not see them, I guess you will have to wait for a regular. You could try and contact a wikiproject (there are often banners on the talkpages of similar pages), and post there to attract attention. Hope this helps. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 08:13, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

BMW Z4

Why were my contributions reverted? Those were not spam. Did anyone of you bother to look at them? Those are news from respectable blogs detailing news and information regarding the introduction of the new second generation BMW Z4. Please put them back. 124.106.206.212 (talk) 07:11, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

Indeed, they are blogs, generally not suitable as a reliable source. Moreover, they were not used to write the article. If the blogs contain unique content, consider adding the content and use the blogspot as a reference, otherwise, they are not suitable to be mentioned. I hope this explains. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 08:22, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

Family Force 5

I simply posted Family Force 5's Official Facebook page, and it removed them. Can you set it to not block it? Here's the link so you can check it out and verify for yourself it's legit. Thanks! --Wolgan (talk) 03:44, 9 December 2008 (UTC) http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/pages/Family-Force-5/6179654841?ref=ts

Facebook is generally not suitable as an external link or reference, see the external links guideline and the reliable sources guideline for more info. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 23:34, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

not allowing bet.com as reference

This BOT is reverting the additon of links to http://www.bet.com/OnTV/BETShows/.
BET.com is legit. For BET.com to not be allowed to be listed on their shows' wiki pages as official websites is ludicrous.
Thx. 72.66.94.160 (talk) 21:46, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

Hmm, the bot should have detected it was in a ref, I'll have second look at that (old problem). But you had in your link 'Referrer=%7B626141EB-9CF7-463E-92C7-6F31C8698895%7D' (a referrer number), often such things are not appropriate and therefore reverted, can you check if the referrer= is really necessery? If so, just revert the bot, otherwise add the link without the referrer tag. Thanks. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 21:54, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

After I go the Keyshia Cole: The Way It Is section of the BET.com website, I just copied the web address. I guess the 'refferrer' is part of the url? I dont know. I see youve added back the ref so thx! 72.66.94.160 (talk) 01:18, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Research 2000

Research 2000 is a legitimate polling institution that has been hired by the left leaning blog Daily Kos to poll various elections. Research 2000, however, is non-partisan, and did very well in the 2008 elections. Daily Kos releases these poll results on their front page. However, this bot automatically reverts any Daily Kos edits, and that unfortunately includes these poll results, which are valid. I'm getting tired of having all my Research 2000 polling results automatically reverted by this bot. What can be done? Muboshgu (talk) 03:44, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

Hmm, link to research2000.us immediately? Use it as a reference in stead of an external link (polling results seem very suitable as a reference to me)? --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 11:39, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

Spot feedback

Hi. Quite a useful bot, Dirk. I saw a link reversion (IP-contributed) in my Watchlist (article Piczo), and clicked through to take a look. Your bot's reversion was absolutely correct & valid; I just wanted to drop by with a small suggestion.

The Talk page comment added included "The external links I reverted were matching the following regex rule(s): rule: '\bexample\.com'."
It might be even more helpful to tweak the report into a more human-friendly style: Anyone adding "example.com" ['''http://www.example.com link title'''] ==) is unlikely to know what a "regex" is, why the messager wrongly thinks they added a link with backslashes and the letter 'b' (yes, I know; but then I wouldn't have added that link ;).

Looking at the XlinkBot FAQ page, since it focuses on reverting similar links added by new or IP users, another idea is add a mention of the Sandbox, in the Talk page auto-message? Undoubtedly, some messages will be deliberate spam/vandalism; but some, well, some'll be ol' fashioned good-faith ineptitude! :) – Whitehorse1 15:52, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the remarks. Regarding the rule, it does link to regex, and the bot does an attempt to show the links which match the rule. It however sometimes fails in doing so, which makes it a bit unclear. I could have a second look at that later on.

I don't know if suggesting to move the edits to the sandbox helps here. It just gives a testing ground. But mentioning it may not hurt, indeed. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 11:42, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

Youtube

So how is a link to Youtube automatically spam, no matter what? That's stupid. --24.21.148.155 (talk) 01:22, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

In this case, we're playing the statistical odds. YouTube links that are added by anonymous editors and by brand-new accounts are almost always inappropriate. Video links are also strongly deprecated by our guidelines for external links, partly because they're useless to people with slow internet connections.

If you think this particular link is appropriate, you can always explain the reasons on the article's talk page (click the 'discussion' tab) and ask an experienced editor to add it for you. XLinkBot never reverts an established user. WhatamIdoing (talk) 19:30, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

About references

I'm sorry if this is answered elsewhere, but I didn't find it in a brief search: Does XLinkBot revert links outside of the ==External links== section? If so, does it revert links inside <ref> tags? (I'm thinking about Blogcritics.org, which has a new thread at WP:RSN, and shmoop.com, which has been discussed at enormous length at WT:EL.) WhatamIdoing (talk) 19:25, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

Yes, it reverts outside of the external links section. It does an attempt to see if the link is inside templates or references, but sometimes fails in that (it is not that easy to detect). The other problem with the references is that sometimes people perform 'reference spamming', where it would be better to revert the references as well, and some links are fine as an external link, but not as a reference (external links don't have to be a reliable source). It gives some problems here and there. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 11:44, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

Amanda Ireton

Why would a link to her homepage and Myspace be OK, but a link to her Facebook not? O_o —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.89.152.63 (talk) 07:50, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

There is an official site in the list, I would even consider that both myspace and facebook are not appropriate then (we are not a linkfarm). I changed the order on the page. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 11:45, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

Artist's website blocked?

Just a quick question. I'm trying to make sense of all the policies since I'm new to this whole deal. I recently added two links to the Morgan Finlay article. I can live with not linking to MySpace, I totally understand that. But why not the artist's personal website? Yes, it does contain a blog but it's the official site he maintains, including tour dates etc... —Preceding unsigned comment added by AlongTheRoad (talk • contribs) 13:56, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

No, it reverts because of the myspace, giving a remark to the editor to reconsider the edit. The official site is fine, you can insert that link (it is very difficult, if not impossible to only remove the 'offending' links, as there are many many ways that links can be formatted, it is saver to revert the whole edit and ask the editor to reconsider). I hope this explains. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 11:47, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

The Mercurymen

XLinkBot seems to have reverted an edit which made multiple changes, only one of which was a link to a Facebook page. Is that intentional? Seems a bit of overkill. PamD (talk) 14:36, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

OK, I've now explored more of the above talk page and realised that this is precisely what the bot does - reverts the entire edit if it includes a single link to a page considered inappropriate. I've now reverted the bot's edit, manually deleting the one facebook link which triggered it. Can I suggest that the bot should use a clearer edit summary and talk page message? Perhaps "Edit reverted because it includes a link to an inappropriate site - see ...." with a link to an explanation? As an experienced editor, I was puzzled by what had happened here, because the edit summary is pretty cryptic. The message left on editor's talk page really isn't very clear, especially given that it's aimed at new editors. It might be useful for it to encourage them to replace any useful editing which the bot has undone: "If your edit included other changes to the article, feel free to make those changes again without re-adding the link to ...". Otherwise it's perhaps a bit WP:BITEy? PamD (talk) 09:36, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the remarks. It may indeed be overkill, but it is very difficult to only remove the 'offending' external link. It is better to revert all of the edit. However, the sentence that you suggest to be added to the message on the talkpage is indeed a good one, giving the editor another hint on how to edit. I have made some changes (I actually should work on putting (parts of) those texts in the settings, so it is easier to adapt). Thanks! --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 13:48, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Please add one

Please add UFOEvidence.org to the list. Something like 98% of the pages on the site contain blatant copyright violations tagged with a fake "fair use" claim that thy think they can copy anything they want without permission if they call the site educational. It's possible some page on the site might be OK for some article, but certainly any new editors shouldn't be adding it. DreamGuy (talk) 17:24, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

ufoevidence.org: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com

Hmm, I see it also being added by some experienced users. I'll have a second look at this. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 14:17, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

groups.ebay.com

Could we please add groups.ebay.com to XLinkBot's list? It's been a problem at Artist trading cards and other pages. Thanks, WhatamIdoing (talk) 00:29, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

Absolutely. Added. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 18:24, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

there are actually some good pages on geocities

example, 'STATES AND REGENTS OF THE WORLD' by Bob Hilkens.

It is hard to find another page discussing the staatsrat of Thuringia in the weimar republic and nazi era.

i think there should be an 'exclusion list' of urls for XLinkBot- links that it won't consider spam.

its kind of dispiriting for an anon-er to spend a bunch of time editing something, then accidentally add a geocities link, then blammo, its all gone.

First on the exclusion list? STATES AND REGENTS OF THE WORLD by Bob Hilkens.

(id link the url but i dont want it to get canned here too.. just google it) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Decora (talk • contribs) 01:29, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

You can always revert the bot (edits are never gone, save oversight). There is indeed some good stuff on some of the servers here, but as the majority is being misused/abused or are just inappropriate, they are on this list (if they would not contain any suitable information the blacklist is a better place). For most things here a whitelist is not really suitable, it concerns single urls which are used only once, reverting or letting them being added by an 'established account' would just save the hassle of that. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 18:36, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Dnepropetrovsk maniacs

Hello, I would like to ask about the feasibility and desirability of a block on links to the Young News Channel (ync.com). Over the New Year holiday period, a serious issue arose over attempts to link to a video allegedly showing the Dnepropetrovsk maniacs. Jimbo Wales has expressly banned linking to this video (see the talk page of the article).

Fortunately, few attempts have been made to link to ync in the past, with the only other major link being the beheading of Ghulam Nabi, which was removed on 27 December 2008. It appears that the material on ync is hosted legally under US law by a company based in Rochester, New York. [2]. Most of the material on the site is sickening, but due to the possibility of the Streisand effect occurring, it would be a mistake to draw attention to it. As Jimbo points out, most of the links on this website are to hardcore porn sites, which automatically rules it out per WP:EL anyway.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 11:29, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

Oh, a proper link to the site would have been helpful. I don't find any additions of ync.com or theyoungnewchannel.com, but the proper link that has been added is theync.com:

theync.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com

Seen Jimbo's reaction I am adding this here, though it may be better on the blacklist. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 15:44, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

Due to concerns for Wikipedia.org, this is not discussed in detail. However, a rule for XLinkBot is recommended.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 15:58, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

Not that matter

Excuse me, you know nothing what I was doing and complained me that I was vandalizing. There was article Operation Babylift, but then there's another article Operation Baby Lift discusses the same thing. So I copy some detail in Operation Baby Lift and add them to Operation Babylift, and mere 2 article together. If you don't believe, just check. 98.119.177.171 (talk) 04:34, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

One of these articles now (correctly) redirects to the other. WhatamIdoing (talk) 02:02, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Peter Paul's interview on TV

I just added this interview that was presented on TV and it is relevant and should be available to others, because one thing is to read about it and other to watch and hear for yourself. Unless you are a Hillary supporter which makes you bias and a non trustful administrator, you should allow this video to be in Peter Paul's article. Please fix your bot! I will try to add the link one more time, Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.108.119.227 (talk) 14:01, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

Yes, an interview on TV, posted on youtube. A) a better link would be directly to the interview on the page of the tv-channel, b) the tv channel probably copyrighted what they broadcast, so then it simply should not be linked to. If you read the documentation linked to in the warning, and you then think that the link does comply with our policies and guidelines, then revert the bot. Thanks. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 13:59, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Fed Up! I'm Quitting Wikipedia Because Of You!

Please Read ALL of this:

Thanks a lot! I have just started editing Wikipedia again, but now you come along with your stupid 'bots', and revert a link to a blog (yes, I know) that did NOT contain any harmful information! In the future will you at least CHECK the link to see whether it IS appropriate, rather than thinking: "Oh, it's a blog, it MUST have unwanted information!" Because Wikipedia has to be all perfect doesn't it(!) Because of these 'bots' taking over Wikipedia, I am leaving. There! One less editor on your 'perfect(!)' little Eden, haven of a database, where EVERY LITTLE NOOK & CRANNY has to be PERFECT! I contributed a lot of times as well, but this is the final straw! Ban me! See what I care! I won't be around to see it happen anyway! Are you getting sick of me rabbiting on? Well, yeah you should be! I'm trying to make a point here and you're just sitting there thinking that all these words mean: "blah, blah, blah,!" For god's sake lighten up! I am going out of my mind with rage right now! I am practically hammering this keyboard with my enraged fingers! ARE YOU STILL LISTENING TO ME? Or have you dozen off? I also think that the article DELETION is inappropriate! I create an article that I am not finished with yet, and you delete it! The reason says something like: 'you didn't attach the {{construction}} tag. But how am I supposed to attach the construction tag, when this stupid database doesn't even tell me how to! Answer that one Mr. Eden! The introduction for new users to Wikipedia should explain things a LOT better than they do now. Or do you just think that as long as we have got over 6 million users or whatever, we don't need to teach any more. I DON'T CARE IF I AM RAMBLING! You are probably bored stiff with reading this, right? Do you know what I hate the MOST about Wikipedia? The most IMPORTANT articles are too long and complicated! I was doing a Rainforest Booklet for my Geography lesson at school, so I typed in Rainforest to Edenpedia (what I call Wikipedia (!)), and the article went on for donkey's years! I couldn't understand a single word you said. I resorted to using external websites, which I found a LOT more helpful and informative. So there! I know some people in my class will simply copy & paste things off your site. But I DO NOT copy and paste! Which is why I used other sites. You will be shocked when I tell you my age at the end of these complaints. You will think: "How did a boy THAT old write all that?" Well I can tell you how, because I don't just use Wikipedia for my learning, and let my mind get warped by the flim-flam included in some of your articles. I double check-facts to PROVE that they're right. Not just look at something on Edenpedia and automatically think that it is correct! So, yeah! Okay, I THINK I am finished typing. So I will leave you to read over these complaints again, and make Wikipedia better for newer users, who want to feel welcomed when they subscribe to you. Make it better for the foreseeable future, because my time on Wikipedia, is up!

From Michael (User:Micky 1234567890123) Your 13 year old complainer.

P.S. Just for the record I honestly am 13. According to my computer, I spelled every word in the above complaint correctly.

Thanks for your time... =)—Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.23.14.133 (talk • contribs) 21:54, 10 January 2009

Blogs are often inappropriate, they are generally not reliable, they change often, etc. However, if you think that it is appropriate after you read the policies and guidelines linked in the message on your talkpage, then you can undo the bot edit. Thanks. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 14:04, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Yes, I understand that! But you just said, OFTEN. Some blogs such as this one change their content with videos. As long as you link to a previously archived post, then you should be fine. Some blogs are not about people's social life, some blogs are used for describing stuff or are generalized around a certain topic. If the blog IS about the article in question, and the external link IS linked to an appropriate blog or webpage, then why delete it? I mean, some people put some real, good hard effort into some blogs. Blogs that aren't inappropriate, blogs which AREN'T abusive or offensive. I'm not taking this out on you, or any user in particular for that matter, however you ASSUME that most blogs contain such information, and shunt them aside. Promise me that you will CHECK the contents of a blog before you jump to conclusions and delete the external link! Once you begin doing this, I will reconsider rejoining Wikipedia. Thanks for your time... =)

From Michael (User:Micky 1234567890123)—Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.10.173.82 (talk • contribs) 20:22, 20 January 2009

How may I add the official MySpace page of an artist?

I am trying to add the official MySpace page of an artist (by clicking of "Edit" in "External Links") and received strange messages about the fact my edition will not be displayed! I am wondering why? Is here some administrator, who may check that my adding of this MySpace page is the correctly and real existing page of Michael Monroe? Thanks in advance for the eventually help! antoaneta_p —Preceding unsigned comment added by Antoaneta p (talk • contribs) 21:35, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

There is an official website, the myspace could well be superfluous. If you read the warning, and the policies and guidelines linked from there, and you then think the link is appropriate, feel free to undo the bots edit. Thanks. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 14:02, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Lippisch P.13b

This revert looks like an error on the part of XLinkBot, in that it removed a large block of content in addition to the offending external link.

However - I would have reverted this material myself, as it comes from an anonymous editor fond of inserting large blocks of material with either unreliable refs or none at all, so no harm done and no need to undo it.

Salmanazar (talk) 14:23, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

It is difficult to only remove the 'offending' external links (as there are many ways to add them). It therefore reverts the whole edit, hoping that the remark on the talkpage makes the editor reconsider the edit. I hope this explains. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 13:01, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. I realize now what happened. Salmanazar (talk) 17:26, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

List of moths of Great Britain (Zygaenidae)

Soory, but I don't understand why you removed the added image-link. Please explain. Thank you—GRM (talk) 10:09, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

pbase is a picture site, images should preferably be uploaded and used in the documents, and not linked to. In this case, it would be better to start the page on the moth (even as a stub), and put a picture on that page. General about picture sites, there are very often problems with them (pictures not being free/copyrighted, subject to change, etc.). Moreover, pbase.com was spammed heavily by a couple of IPs (a.o. a 74.59.22x.xxx range). I hope this explains our concerns. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 10:26, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

Another for you

Could the commercial website *.growth-flexv.com be added to the list? We have a persistent spammer (presumably with a COI, as the website is an advertisement for a particular company). WhatamIdoing (talk) 02:38, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Will do, don't see too many additions yet (though 4 times to one page). --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 10:28, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. WhatamIdoing (talk) 01:01, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

New Zealand cricket site

Following a discussion at the New Zealand Wikipedians' noticeboard about the site procricket.co.nz, links to the site have been placed in numerous articles by a well-respected editor. I think there is no purpose in the bot still reverting links to this site placed by anons. Please remove it from User:XLinkBot/RevertList.-gadfium 00:52, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Glad to see they finally approached one of the projects for assistance. It's a decent site, but they really got off on the wrong foot. I've removed it from the RevertList. --Versa geek 01:00, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Thanks.-gadfium 01:31, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

BOT - Please Only Undo One Link Change, Not ALL Link Changes

If the BOT finds a link that it thinks is in violation, then please only UNDO that offending link's change instead of undoing ALL link changes.

I fixed a BROKEN link and added a few more that I thought would be very useful for others to see in separate edits and the BOT did an undo on ALL of the links instead of only the link to YouTube that the BOT was complaining about.

Please try to make the BOT smarter.

Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.139.176.156 (talk) 02:20, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Well, we are not a linkfarm. And unfortunately it is impossible to only parse out the offending links, that would in too many cases result in damage to the page (as there are just too many ways of adding external links). That is why the bot asks you to redo the edit but leaving out any offending links. Thanks. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 18:35, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Feature Request

Is there any way that the bot could check http://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/Mirrors_of_Wikipedia and see if one is used as a reference and then flag the article or warn the contributor that they just used wikipedia as a referenced to itself? I've been cleaning up findtarget references and external links and it seems like it could be automated by this or a similar bot...I kind of wonder how many similar issues are out there with articles that (inadvertently in most cases) cite a wikipedia mirror as a source Reboot (talk) 18:02, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

That would fall outside the scope of this bot. I do wonder if all of them should be on the revertlist, as they should generally not be linked, neither as a reference nor as an external link. If you want usernames of common users of these links, I can give you that info (or you can retrieve it yourself if you have access to IRC (find us in for example #wikimedia-external-links . --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 18:39, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Recenct Changes

Hi, How comes your bots edits' show up in recent changes? Respond here but notify me on my talk page of you reply. Thanks DFS454 (talk) 09:17, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

The bot runs without botflag (though has been approved). In that way it indeed shows up in the recent changes, as we feel it is better that the reverts are shown there, so they can be checked. E.g. sometimes there are rules on the list of 'good' links (links that do have good use) which are pushed by IPs/new accounts in an inappropriate way; such edits, when performed by other, uninvolved, editors are then also reverted ('collateral damage'). Showing the edits in the recent changes allows other editors to follow up on that quickly. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 10:26, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the explanation, makes sense to not hide it in RC. DFS454 (talk) 11:17, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

example.com

Please do not add the external link to example.com literally into the user notifications. This will clutter the page http://en.wiki.x.io/w/index.php?title=Special:LinkSearch&target=www.example.com with hits and will make it impossible to use that page to find unspotted editing experiments, vandalism or other edits needing attention. A simple nowiki around the link will do. andy (talk) 13:51, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

Oh darn .. yes, but no .. that would also disable finding other links .. I will have to tweak the bot to exclude example.com as a special case. Will work on that. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 16:13, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

OK, done. I have added a setting in these two edits. That contains a regex, which, if matched, will result in the link being wrapped in nowiki tags. All other links will still result in a working link. Thanks for the call, this is indeed useful. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 16:27, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

Seems to work fine, most links are working links, but e.g. on User talk:151.56.138.94 the link is wrapped in nowiki tags. I hope this solves this problem. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 12:03, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

Pages to watch

Lots of advertising links are added to point of sale and hospitality point of sale systems. Any way for this bot to keep an eye on those pages and revert external links? I guess you would revert any http link that wasn't in a REF tag(?). Timneu22 (talk) 17:16, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

No, it only reverts using rules for the added links. Some statistics:

2 records; Links added to page point of sale: nanosmedia.com (1), patronworks.com (1).
2 records; Links added to page point of sale: nanosmedia.com (1), patronworks.com (1).

Are these the links that are the problem? --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 17:39, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

Well, there are various HTTP links added to those pagesm and they are pretty much all spam. I try to remove them when I can. This seems like the most appropriate BOT to ask this stuff so that's why I'm here. Basically, lots of people like to add random JoeShmoesPointOfSaleSystem links to these pages; I was hoping a bot could keep an eye on this. Timneu22 (talk) 18:00, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

I watchlisted it and will keep an eye as well. It looks indeed that there is a lot of spammy stuff added there. Unfortunately at the moment nothing that we really can do (except revertlist everything bad, so it gets reverted on the next edit). --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 18:32, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

Question re a removed link

Hi. I appreciate and fully support removal of promotional, commercial and other spam links. I'm not quite sure why a link to a non-commercial fan site with hobbyist information that confirms facts in an article about an out-of-production, 1950s toy (Gilbert U-238 Atomic Energy Laboratory) was removed. The link in question is http://gombessa.tripod.com/scienceleadstheway/id4.html

Thank you for any information. --72.89.121.69 (talk) 18:17, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

tripod.com contains a lot of pages which are not conform our linking guidelines (fail or likely fail some of the rules of our links to avoid). But there are exceptions. If you think that this link is one of those, feel free to undo the bot edit. I hope this explains. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 18:24, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

Clydebank.

Your bot put me as inserting some link that is apparently against some rule or other.

I didnt put the link in originally, I simply fixed a broken link. Your bot has now undone my change and reverted back to a broken link. I'll leave it for you to fix. beardybloke (talk) 22:33, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

Hmm .. I repaired it all. If the link is appropriate is a second question. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 13:59, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Cheers luv

Sorry, hadn't seen that the butter and salt blog was banned. What did she do? Did she try to eat the site?

Shall re-establish the edits without the blog. Lambutler (talk) 12:25, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 14:02, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of User talk:Csl123007

A tag has been placed on User talk:Csl123007, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be blatant advertising which only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become an encyclopedia article. Please read the guidelines on spam as well as Wikipedia:FAQ/Business for more information.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}} to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on [[ Talk:User talk:Csl123007|the talk page]] explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the article meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Lastly, please note that if the article does get deleted, you can contact one of these admins to request that they userfy the article or have a copy emailed to you. E Wing (talk) 09:25, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Bit strange to notify the bot of this. I have undeleted the one edit that this bot made to the page, as I feel that that may be needed for tracking purposes, and for knowing that this editor has been warned for spamming before (which may influence further decisions on how to handle this editor or the information he has been adding). Thanks. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 10:39, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Log of edits?

Is there a log of this bots edits, or an easy way to get one other than going through the contribution history? --Ronz (talk) 21:22, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Hmm .. no, not really. The bot logs all its actions into a database, but even I have never looked into that database since we took over the bot from Shadow. What info would you like to have? --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 10:12, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the quick response. I just wanted to find out the easiest way to determine if the bot has found certain links in the past. I'll just search the contribution history. --Ronz (talk) 16:05, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

Rothenberg Political Report

The Rothenberg Political Report (http://rothenbergpoliticalreport.blogspot.com/) is considered to be one of the four appropriate prediction sites on United States Senate elections, 2010 and prior to the election on United States Senate elections, 2008. I am requesting that XLinkBot be adjusted to have that as an exception. Thank You.Naraht (talk) 13:47, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Just undo the bot edit. Blogspots fail almost always the external links guideline, but there are exceptions. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 14:03, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Thank you, does it learn from that in any way?Naraht (talk) 14:29, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

No, sorry. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 14:39, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Should expand on that. If it would learn from that, spammers could just undo and then their links would be ignored on next additions. It is just simply that blogspot is seldomly suitable, it almost always fails parts of the policies and guidelines. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 14:40, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Could it only "trust" registered users or registered users with more than X edits? (pick X suitably large)Naraht (talk) 15:38, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

It does (should) not revert editors older than 7 days. Working on the 'and more than so many edits' part. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 15:55, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Do you mean where the change to the article is more than 7 days old, where the account that the edit was made for has existed for more than 7 days or something else? Also, I apologize if this comes off as critisizing, I do appreciate the work.Naraht (talk) 16:11, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

It should not revert editors where the account has been created more than 7 days ago (for registered users). Don't worry, I don't see it as critisising, I am working on the bot (trying to improve reversion and warning speed etc.), during which time mistakes may happen, I am glad that people keep an eye on what the bot does (if only more people would keep an eye on what the bot actually does not revert .. there are links added which are, to say the least, questionable against policies/guidelines which the bot does not revert because accounts are too old etc.). Thanks! --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 10:42, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

I understand in terms of accounts. Is there a list of the sites that the bot does revert? I want to use it as a guideline for acceptable references on a page where I'm the registered editor, List of fraternities and sororities in the Philippines. Don't turn the bot loose on the page, most of the references no matter how sucky are mine. (I've even got some fraternities in there where the only place I can find the fraternity mentioned is on Friendster, ugh).Naraht (talk) 13:58, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

The bot reverts links which match regular expressions, which are listed on User:XLinkBot/RevertList. They are in this form cryptic, in short, a \ before something means an 'escape' -> \b is a 'word boundary', \d is a number, \w is a character, \. is a period. Further you have rules which say 'resolve xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx', the number is the IP of the computer where the websites are hosted on. I hope this helps a bit. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 14:51, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

It does. I actually use Perl in my job, though some of the look-ahead and look-behind stuff you have in the regular expressions is impressive. I'm still trying to figure out what to do with the friendster references...Naraht (talk) 15:06, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Some of the more complex rules are (optimised) by User:Lustiger seth, some are 'stolen', and some are from me. Heh, you might be interested in the ones we use in the code .. what about (?<![\w\d-])(?<!isbn[\s])\d{3,5}[\s-]\d{2,3}[\s-]\d{4}(?![\d\w-]) ?? --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 15:21, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

What about it? :) Seriously, what is *that* used for?Naraht (talk) 18:22, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Telephone numbers (it is not fail save .. but it does catch quite some which are correct. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 10:13, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

Under what circumstances should phone numbers be included on Wikipedia?Naraht (talk) 13:51, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

They should not be added, WP:BLP problem (don't post personal information to mainspace), just like email addresses. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 15:23, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

I understand for people, but I have run into static before on posting phone numbers and addresses for organizations such as National Offices for Fraternities.Naraht (talk) 18:15, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

Circumventing XLinkBot

I thought you might be interested in this edit where Phil Newby (talk · contribs) (previously 85.189.36.254 (talk · contribs) and 90.199.178.45 (talk · contribs)) successfully circumvented XLinkBot's ability to spot the URL in question. This was done by HTTP encoding a number of letters in the URL (e.g. instead of letter the 'h', he wrote %68), and then HTML entity encoding some of the HTTP-encoded octets (e.g. %68 was converted to %68). The result was that instead of 'haroldstreet.org.uk' (that is, or at least used to be, on the blacklist), the article contained the text '%68%61r%6Fl%64s%74reet.org.uk'. I would imagine it would be easy to get the bot to process both sorts of encoding before comparing domains to the blacklist. — ras52 (talk) 11:37, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

That is interesting .. and not funny. I'll have a look. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 11:49, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

I have indeffed the user and thanked him for his help. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 12:29, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

I tested the blacklist, that does properly block the links, the linkwatchers now also catch it properly. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 15:33, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

Excellent, thank you very much for doing that. — ras52 (talk) 16:49, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

Well done!Naraht (talk) 17:13, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

Deletion of MySpace link of Parachute Club band member

I am wondering if this is always appropriate, since I have encountered many musicians who seem to use MySpace as either a primary or secondary website, in circumstances where the link becomes informational, rather than promotional.

Your thoughts here would be appreciated.

Dreadarthur (talk) 12:20, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

I've just gone to the page and it appears that all of the external links were deleted. The band uses a wordpress blog format as a band website, as does one of its principal members, Billy Bryans. In addition, both Bryans and Lorraine Segato use Facebook as informational vehicles. Even the Lorraine Segato official website, though not current, was also deleted.

Don't quite know what is happening here. Your thoughts appreciated.

Dreadarthur (talk) 12:24, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

I ended up reverting the edit since the entire previous series of edits to the page, including footnotes and related, rather than only the MySpace link objected to, had been taken out. I assume that this was "bot overkill" or something similar.

I have left the MySpace link in, with the hope that further consideration will be given to keeping it in. It provides, in my view, important supplementary information about one of the band members.

Hope you are in general agreement with the approach here.

Dreadarthur (talk) 12:49, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Myspace links are very often inappropriate. I have done a review of quite some reverts (30) not too long ago, and only one seemed really appropriate, the others questionable, or plainly inappropriate or superfluous. In short, the myspace would only be fully appropriate if it is the only website of the subject of the article. If the subject has an official homepage, all freewebs/myspace/etc pages are not really necessery (only if they really add something), and if there is not an official page, but a whole list of freeweb/myspace/etc. pages, then discussion on the talkpage would be better to decide which of these would be the best to use (we are not a linkfarm and such). Also, since myspace often fails for other reasons, e.g. in sentences like 'More information can be found here <link>.', or (per intro of WP:EL, they are better as a reference, not as an external link. The option of having no external links at all is also still there (also per WP:EL).

Overkill of reverting all, maybe. But 'parsing' out the offending link is too difficult, and would result (often) in broken pages. Reverting the whole, and all edits, and asking the editor to re-judge the link and consider reverting or undo-with-repair is generally better.

You are talking here about "Deletion of MySpace link of Parachute Club band member". Note that that fails WP:ELNO #13. Same goes for one of the other links you mention here. I'll have a look for cleanup, and I hope this explains. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 13:18, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Spam???!

Dear XLinkBot,

I do not understand why the magazine I am trying to add as an external link is persistently removed. Perhaps the guidelines could be changed in order to allow it?! The magazine is not spam, and, I believe, will prove to be a useful supplementary source of information for wikipedia knowledge to expand their knowledge with regards to the articles on wikipedia which it can provide supplementary information on.

Ellcuisine —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ellcuisine (talk • contribs) 12:39, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Replied on talkpage of the user. I guess that having a thorough look at our policies and guidelines is in place here, Ellcuisine. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 13:28, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

reverted link

I received the following:

Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia, your addition of one or more external links to the page Dram shop has been reverted.

Your edit here was reverted by an automated bot that attempts to remove unwanted links and spam from Wikipedia. The external link you added or changed is on my list of links to remove and probably shouldn't be included in Wikipedia. The external links I reverted were matching the following regex rule(s): \btypepad\.com\b (links: http://mcmillslaw.typepad.com/nevada_coverage_law/2009/02/dram-shop-wonderland.html).

If you were trying to insert an external link that does comply with our policies and guidelines, then please accept my creator's apologies and feel free to undo the bot's revert. However, if the link does not comply with our policies and guidelines, but your edit included other changes to the article, feel free to make those changes again without re-adding the link. Please read Wikipedia's external links guideline for more information, and consult my list of frequently-reverted sites. For more information about me, see my FAQ page. Thanks! --XLinkBot (talk) 21:53, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Retrieved from "http://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/User_talk:Newclients"

While I understand that every blog is reverted automatically, the blog in question follows all rules and guidelines I have read...except that it uses TypePad as a platform.

I also believe that it is more in compliance than a non-reverted link on the same page "Dram Shop Liability" http://www.personal-injury-info.net/dram-shop-liability.htm which drives readers directly to a lawyer directory site.

Please advise on how I can get an external link to my Dram Shop Law information on the page.

Thanks in advance,

Michael Newclients (talk) 22:43, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for you question. The bot remark says 'If you were trying to insert an external link that does comply with our policies and guidelines, then please accept my creator's apologies and feel free to undo the bot's revert.', so there is the answer. Please check the external links guideline before you do, generally, wikipedia is more helped by referenced content than by external links only (see also WP:RS, WP:CITE and WP:FOOT).

You say 'my Dram Show Law information', maybe you should also consult WP:COI. That there are other links which may not comply with the guidelines may be a good other point of discussion on the talkpage of Dram shop (i.e. Talk:Dram shop ). Hope this explains. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 17:04, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

The Reply of Taipei 101 page reverting

The reply of Taipei 101 page reverting at 04:41, 31 January 2009:

I am adding Taipei 101 2009 New Year Fireworks Activities[3] and April 19, 2005 E=mc2 Activities[4]. It's a significant events about Taipei 101. --118.166.138.209 05:41, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

--118.166.143.107 (=118.166.138.209) 16:40, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

Hmmm, we are not a linkfarm, and youtube links can be appropriate, but in practice seldomly are. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 17:01, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

Edit summaries

Could the edit summaries be made a bit more human readable? Right now they look like a jumble of letters and numbers unless you know what you're looking at. Thanks, Dismas|^(talk) 07:43, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Hmm .. They are quite similar to Cluebot, bit different. 'Reverting link addition(s) by (user) to revision (revid)' + a coding of the why. Is it the regex that is too confusing. I could try to remove that, or write that different? --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 17:22, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Yes, that would help. Picking a contribution out of the recent contributions, I found this to be a good example of the less human readable entries. The humans who see these would rather know why an edit was made and not the regex that was used, IMO. Dismas|^(talk) 21:05, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

I'll push edit summaries also into the settings, so they will be easier to change. Thanks! --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 10:56, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

I put it in the settings, variables 'revert_editsummary' and 'usernotify_editsummary', and have adapted the texts a bit. How does this and this look? --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 11:17, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

Well, the first one looks much better. The second one causes some sort of database error though. Thanks, Dismas|^(talk) 11:52, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

Heh, sorry. My mistake! I speedy deleted the page shortly after I used it here as a reference. Special:Contributions/XLinkBot should show some correct links, though. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 14:23, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

WTF???

Eh?? I've cleared up a load of vandalism, and reinserted all the interwiki links/cats/etc. that got chopped off the bottom of the article, and this stoopid bot has seen fit to do this. No human checking to see what I was doing - just undid it all. Well, great. I thought editing Wikipedia was a good thing to do. Obviously you just want me to sod off. So I will. Bye. 86.157.142.95 (talk) 17:15, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Nope, that is not what we want, and that is also not what the bot is suggesting. There was a 'offending' link in the edit you made, removal of the link would have been enough. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 17:25, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Malaka Dewapriya

Could you please give your contribution to this article Malaka Dewapriya Best (Jets (talk) 18:00, 10 February 2009 (UTC))

You are asking this to a bot? Not sure what to do here. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 18:17, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

Rejected Links

Hello!

I don't know if you have the time for this but I invite you to visit the linked site, which, although it is officially a blog, is a serious presentation of Chinese paintings and interesting related issues (and actually the only one of this kind on the Web). I wish "notability" could be judged by the quality of the content. I also notice that most of the existing links are overtly commercial (which is not the case for the one I proposed). Regards. Hongshou (talk) 06:19, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

Yes, blogs fail generally both the external links guideline ánd the reliable sources guideline. Please stop. I have left a message on your talkpage, please consider that as a last chance. Thanks. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 10:32, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

Error reverting MySpace links

Hi, I noticed that this bot incorrectly reverted some edits by User:71.68.223.17 to Jessica Jacobs. The article contained two legitimate MySpace links created using the {{MySpace}} template, but this user (apparently confused) replaced them with external links. This should indeed have been reverted, but not for the reason posted by the bot on her talk page or in the edit summary. Just notifying you. Dcoetzee 00:28, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

The first remark should be a friendly remark, it is not a warning. If the user then re-do's the edit, or undo's using the undo functionality, the bot will not revert again. It is impossible for the bot to see what exactly happened. I hope this explains. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 10:05, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

Sandwell

Thanks for removing the YouTube external link from the Sandwell article. However, looking at this diff, the bot also corrected "http://www.sandwell.gov.uk/" to "http://www.smbc.sandwell.gov.uk/". Both of these redirect to the correct page, but in general, a "root" web address will be more stable and is preferred to a subdomain (which could be used for other purposes at times). No problems anyway, because it's been put back to the "root" address in the infobox. I just thought you might want to be aware of a slight glitch with the bot. Cheers --RexxS (talk) 01:29, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

It is not a glitch, it reverts the whole edit, and all edits by the same editor that performed the 'offending' edit, suggesting in the message on the talkpage to redo the edit (better, undo the bot edit), leaving out 'offending' material (or keeping it, if it is in line with policy and guideline). I hope this explains. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 10:06, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

Deleted External Link

Hg comments: This is ridiculous. The bot deleted an addition external link to the blog of Russian human rights activist Oleg Kozlovsky for no good reason. It leaves a Russian language link that readers can not, by and large, understand - but not an English language link, which most can. I thought this was meant to be an an English language 'encyclopaedia'. I have no time for blogs, generally. But Kozlovsky is using a wordpress blog to communicate with the rest of the world.

Please ensure that my addition is reinstated. Or justify the deletion. User_talk:H.G.Milliner 14:19, 12 February 2008.

The bot suggests to check the link against our policies and guidelines (and blogs generally fail the external links guideline, and often other policies and guidelines). If it is correct, you can undo the bot edit. I hope this explains. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 10:07, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

Link Rejected

I just got into wikipedia and found this XLinkBot reverted an external link I added to a martial arts article. I want you to know I teach martial arts for free to kids of my community, and by adding this link I just wanted the people who read the article could find some extra info about different chinese martial arts. The style I practice is very rare and many people write me in order to know about it. I though putting an external link into wikipedia could be a good way of giving people access to this info. If this was an offence to your organization, I apologize, otherwise I feel real bad, treated like a criminal, I think you should check the site the external link are refered to in order to know if someone is making some advertisement or not. One thing I am sure, I will never click again (edit) on Wikipedia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Oliverarodriguez (talk • contribs) 20:20, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

Well, if you teach a special style, I would suggest you to add content to specific articles, unfortunately, the link you added totally fails our external links guideline completely, and is therefore rightfully reverted. I hope this explains. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 10:10, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

Bot caught too much in deleting external links

Hi. In this edit [5] XLinkBot correctly deleted the MySpace, but also caught the "Official Website"...probably because it was on the same line?? Regards, Piano non troppo (talk) 11:02, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

Nope, it reverts the whole edit, correctly parsing out the 'offending' links is difficult (if not impossible). It asks in the message that it leaves on the talkpage to re-consider the myspace, and undo if the link is in line with policies/guidelines, otherwise to consider to undo without the 'offending' link. Hope this explains. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 15:06, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

Ankara, Turkey

Hi,

Your bot removed a link to my pages about Ankara, Turkey. Now, I write in my profile:

"In view of the scarcity of good (links to) pictures of many Turkish cities and their culture I have added "External links" on several Wikipedia pages. I do NOT consider that as promoting my site or myself, but as promoting (knowledge of) Turkey. I suppose I may find some Wikipedian will be taking the links out considering me to be guilty of self-aggrandizement after all. In that case I think I will say good-bye to Wikipedia, and use my energy elsewhere. I do not want to compete on that issue."

As a matter of fact, my site about Turkey is probably the largest in existence and is highly regarded by even the Turkish Ministry of Culture and Tourism (as indicated by a letter in my possession by its General Director). I have contributed, often for free, to BBC, many newspapers, a growing number of books, many specialist sites, the Wikipedia (upon request by people who wanted to illustrate a particular article), thesis and so forth. All pictures were taken by me, so there is no copyright infringement. My site is considered to paint a concise picture of many aspects of the country, in particular its cultural heritage, and is pretty exhaustive in that it shows most major monuments, as well as life in the streets and such.

The latest comment on my policy was by someone who was about to delete, then added:

"Ooops, never mind, ignore the 1st message by me. I read your user page. --Hottentot 19:04, 20 November 2005 (UTC)

Hi. No I didn't report you. I was about to revert your edits until I read your user page though. :-P I encourage you to keep on adding links. Thanks. --Hottentot 16:49, 26 November 2005 (UTC) "

Now this was a thinking person. Instead this time my link to - indeed - my own pages was deleted by a bot. I do not know how to argue with a bot, so this may well spell the end of my contributions to Wikipedia.

I am somewhat surprised that I often come across links to other photosites that in my humble opinion are much less informative and more commercial than my own, but I suppose the bot can only work this hard. Also I often find links to the official Turkish site. Many of my viewers consider that, in content and quality, to be worse than my site again. But hey, they're official, aren't they?

In case you doubt my statements, take a look at my site and read some of the almost 8000 comments gathered on its pages. And take a look at the well over 25000 pictures, which have been viewed over 51 million times now by viewers from all over the world, be they Turkish or foreign.

Dick Osseman, Amsterdam, The Netherlands —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dosseman (talk • contribs) 14:37, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

There are still human editors behind it. May I ask you to contact a suitable wikiproject (you can find them here: Wikipedia:WikiProject, or via banners on talkpages), there may be interest in your images. Linking to them generally is not the way forward, but it is very difficult to keep up with everything. Hope this explains a bit. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 15:09, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

STOP with vandalism

[6] If you don't like some link or web, do not abuse bot. --213.220.219.85 (talk) 14:17, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Try reading our external links guideline, and the rest of the warnings the bot is leaving on your talkpage. Youtube is hardly ever suitable as an external link. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 16:06, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

take out external link but please restore rest of edit

You have reverted my edit to Edgewater, NJ because of an external link I added. Unfortunately, adding the EL was only a small part of my edit, which included moving an image, adding two more, and writing a section for the article. Can you please take out the EL but leave the rest of my edit. I worked on this for more than an hour, and at the moment I am very frustrated. Thank you.Manray00 (talk) 23:06, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

You can press the undo button on the bot's edit, and you will get your version of the document. If you then remove the 'offending link' (or leave it, if you think it is appropriate), then you can press save and done! I hope this helps. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 23:42, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Done it, you can continue. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 23:43, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Why is http://davidcano23.blogspot.com continuously blocked?

It is the online portfolio of a legitimate journalist who's interviews are more than worth including on external link lists. Why are wiki admins so pedantic?—Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.106.216.194 (talk • contribs)

It is still a blogspot page. If his interviews are notable enough, then they will be published by an official site as well, and the link can be to that site. I hope this explains. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 13:31, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

BOT

I got approved on The talk page of TNA Alumni. So I don't think you should automatically go off on me DUDE. ThePeepShow 04:32, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

I see the bot revert has been reverted. Sorry. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 10:59, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Jack Talbert

An article that you have been involved in editing, Jack Talbert, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jack Talbert. Thank you.

Please contact me if you're unsure why you received this message.

Yeah, indeed .. I am unsure .. well, as a bot, I am not sure if I am unsure, actually. But thanks. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 16:41, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

Revert to List of Happy Tree Friends characters

Although there was a link, but the edit is more constructive than nonconstructive. Ginbot86 (talk) 01:04, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

Yes, but it is difficult to filter out only the 'offending' link. That is why XLinkBot on a revert does suggest that undoing the edit without the 'offending' is an option to proceed. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 17:06, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

Not A Nice Bot, Bad Bot

I understand trying to automate cleanup, but after I worked for hours on an article cleaning it up and adding information your bot reversed all the work, lucky I had just saved a copy off line. What's also not good about your bot is I logged in from a isp that is used by hundreds to do edits. Your bot asumes its all the same people, it's not. The IDEA behind Wikipedia was suppose to be HUMANS' building INFORMATION. Dear Jummy Wales. What Happen to the Humans? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lalive (talk • contribs) 20:50, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

You can also undo the edit (filtering out links which may be a problem). And the bot is still operated and followed by humans. Hope this explains, thanks. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 10:58, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

Marian apparitions

Thank you for your simpathy :) I had replaced the constructive information about Marian apparitions but now without the unwanted links and spam referred by you. 84.90.92.195 (talk) 22:40, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

Thanks! --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 10:56, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

Re: DePatie-Freleng Enterprises edit

The link to the blog "http://bakertown.blogspot.com/" was included because one of the external links, "http://dfe.goldenagecartoons.com/," linked to an unofficial DePatie-Freleng web-site that is no longer being updated. Please make a note of this with apologies from the IP address of this editor.71.242.175.90 (talk) 20:27, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

If you think the link is appropriate after reading the policies and guidelines, please feel free to undo the bot edit. I hope this explains. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 10:56, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

Stop vandalism!

You are vandalising my article removing picture, refrences, notes and links. Please stop it! I will report you. (Isagrand (talk) 14:31, 3 March 2009 (UTC))

Feel free. Please read WP:OWN, WP:EL, WP:COI and WP:SPAM before you do, though. Thanks. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 10:55, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

Bad reversion

In http://en.wiki.x.io/w/index.php?title=Morristown_and_Erie_Railway&diff=259438960&oldid=259438930 you reverted a Geocities link being used as a reference. It seems like a bad idea to "blacklist" an entire site. --NE2 06:16, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

Well, I disagree, and think this is a good and proper revert. A) that is not a ref, it is a link to a picture, b) if I read the text, I presume that the picture is an image of an official text, I am not sure if that should be digitised and uploaded to geocities, c) saying that, it should be referenced citing the original (and that there is no link available to the original document does not mean that it can't be used as a reference, we can just as well reference to paper copies), d) Documents on geocities hardly ever a reliable source, e) XLinkBot does a serious attempt to detect if links are used as proper references, and f) it is not a blacklist. I'll have a second look, but I hope this explains. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 10:02, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

A) it's what a newbie might think to put as a reference, bcd) true, but this is a non-contentious issue that could conceivably be left unreferenced. Someone familiar with the document may now see it and fix the reference. The idea that you would revert an edit with a reference but not revert it unreferenced is ridiculous. --NE2 20:24, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

Edmund Pevensie

I think external links should be pertinent, i.e. they should specifically concern the article's subject. The subject of the Edmund Pevensie article is the Edmund Pevensie character, the link I added and you removed (http://narnia.wikia.com/wiki/edmund_pevensie) talks about the Edmund Pevensie character, the link I removed (and you restored), i.e. http://www.narniaweb.com, is a generic site about the Narnia saga. I didn't intend to spam: I think the current narniaweb link is more "spammish" than the narnia.wikia one. --Aplomb Dinamico (talk) 13:16, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

XLinkBot is not only concerned with spam, it also reverts other external links which may not be in line with policy or guideline. Wikia links are often so. The external links guideline has something to say about other wikis (which, generally, are just as unreliable and unstable as wikipedia itself). The other link may be a problem as well, I guess the talkpage is a good place to discuss this. I hope this explains. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 13:23, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

I'll ask in the talk page. --Aplomb Dinamico (talk) 13:30, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

Chomori

I made some additions to the article about Chomori. I do not see them. Whats the problem? Please notify me at cdrossos@upatras.gr

Thanks

Costas Drossos —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.64.119.37 (talk) 09:54, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

Hmm .. do you mean this change? Well, e-mail addresses are hardly ever OK in mainspace, and the edit was therefore reverted. I hope this explains. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 12:24, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

Howie Payne

The MySpace link is the artists only official website.

92.12.42.19 (talk) 14:39, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

You can just revert the bot, myspace is hardly ever appropriate, but there are indeed exceptions. I hope this explains. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 12:25, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

how replace images

hey, thanks for your welcome greetings. I think I need some help, I'm trying to be a pictures uploader. I read that Autoconfirmed users can do it, and to me become one I need 10 edits and 4 days old account. I have this bouth things, but I can't replace images yet. How can I get this permermission? --Dinha (talk) 15:12, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

Hmm, I don't know that, if you are autoconfirmed it should work. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 12:32, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

Blogspot.com

Where you say that blogspot.com addresses are reverted based on "Rule 12" in the list of guidelines regarding external links, I think you mean "Rule 11". The rule numbering may have changed since you made the list.--ABIJXY (talk) 17:01, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

Hmm, I don't see that in the bot-warning, can you give me an example? --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 12:26, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

Faerie Path

I readded my link to the myspace of the author of The Faerie Path. It complies with http://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/Wikipedia:External_links#What_should_be_linked as an official page of the author. It is the only webpage the author has and there is nothing else to link. The link can be verified by using Haper Collins (The Publisher) website and searching for the author. http://www.harpercollins.com/authors/31097/Frewin_Jones/index.aspx Please let me know if you have any concerns. --TParis00ap (talk) 20:34, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

Looks fine. Thanks! --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 12:27, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

Bot restoring vandalism

Someone else fix it then. See Ruth Graves Wakefield. 71.42.216.98 (talk) 00:56, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

I see it has been solved. Thanks. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 12:28, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

Missed link

It missed these two edits by

122.108.29.63 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log).--Otterathome (talk) 18:56, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

Not exactly, one of the uncyclopedia articles was used in a reference, XLinkBot tries to detect that, and that's why the bot did not revert. I hope this explains. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 12:30, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

Good Faith Warning After Level 4 Warning

I'm not sure if it's helpful for this bot to make "good faith" notifications after a user has already received a level 4 warning. This anon is on quite the vandalism spree tonight. Here's the edit [7] Henrymrx (talk) 09:08, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

The bot has a strict own counting .. I do try to detect old warnings, but it is difficult to detect if, for IPs, the same editor is there again, or if it is a new editor, so it is probably safer to start with a fresh warning. I hope this explains. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 12:31, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

The Working Man's Barnstar

	The Working Wikipedian's Barnstar
	Awarded to Sir XLinkBot and its creator in recognition of pushing through early adversity and contributing to the endless task of reverting questionable link additions. Enigma^msg 21:37, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

Article of Trikala

Dear XLinkBot,

My information about Trikala is true. However, it was deleted due to lack of source pretext. My source about Trikala is ottoman archive of Turkish Prime Ministry in Istanbul. Also, Trikala was known "Tırhala" during Ottoman rule and was sanjak centre in Rumelia Province, Vilayets of Selanik (Thessaloniki) and Manastır (Bitola). If you speak Turkish, you will eb able to reach sources about Ottoman period of Trikala (Tırhala). Yours sincerely,--Cemsentin1 (talk) 16:39, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

The bot, and this operator, both are not capable of readin Turkish. However, this is the English wikipedia, I would suggest you contact e.g. Wikipedia:WikiProject Turkey to see if they can help you further. Thanks. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 16:44, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Dear Bot, why did you delete added information by me ? It is true. Do not speak Turkish, you should not be pretext to delete the added information. Also, unfurtunately I think the Greek friends do not want to face the past and does not write Trikala's Turkish counterpart. I found some sources. They are listed below:

http://www.archive.org/stream/universalgeograp04maltuoft/universalgeograp04maltuoft_djvu.txt

http://emidius.mi.ingv.it/RHISE/ii_2alb/ii_2alb.html

http://www.fatih.edu.tr/~ayasar/HIST428/Inalcik,%20Halil_Ottoman%20Methods%20of%20Conquest.pdf

http://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/Salonika_Province,_Ottoman_Empire

Thanks.--Cemsentin1 (talk) 22:51, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Please read the external links guideline. I have again removed the links there, especially the en.wiki.x.io link is superfluous, the others may be suitable as a reference. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 08:08, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

Thanks

Thank you for your advice re: the Ben Pobjie page. I was not aware that YouTube links were inappropriate. I was trying to fill in some more links and references because there were warnings on the page that seemed to suggest the links to Pobjie's articles were not sufficient. Can you give me any advice as to what sort of thing would stop the page being deleted, because I think it is genuinely worthy of inclusion on Wikipedia? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Slampoet (talk • contribs) 19:00, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Youtube links are often inappropriate (per our guidelines), though there are exceptions. Thanks for the friendly words!

Generally, proper references. Sources published independently from the subject, e.g. significant newspapers reporting about the subject, or studies in literature. If it is not mentioned there, then you will have a difficult time proving that the subject is notable. I hope this explains. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 08:10, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

Cosmos external links to video

Per the guidelines (see article's Discussion section), the link to Hulu.com is entirely appropriate. —Preceding unsigned comment added by WholeNote68 (talk • contribs) 00:05, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

I have responded to this concern on the WholeNote68's talk page. - Fastily (talk) 01:41, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

Three editors and this bot seem to disagree. I have given a final warning on adding this link. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 08:11, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

Undo of xlinkbot allowed

An edit by XlinkBot was undone by the perpetrator of a spam link, and XLinkBot allowed this? Is it possible to modify the bot to be more aggressive against non-autoconfirmed users who undo XLinkBot's edits?

Without this feature XLinkBot doesn't really stop spammers.... User A1 (talk) 12:12, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

I have semiprotected the article, since the same link was being added from more than one IP address. Increasing XLinkBot's mandate to let it do multiple reverts seems risky. EdJohnston (talk) 23:16, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

XLinkBot is mainly there to inform editors that the links they add are inappropriate. If they start undo-ing the edits by XLinkBot, then a) the links may indeed be appropriate, or b) such links, editors or articles may be suitable for more harsh methods of convincing them that the links are inappropriate. Our guideline is just that, a guideline. Most of the links on the revertlist are in a large majority of the cases inappropriate, though there are exceptions, and therefore it should be possible to revert it. Real spam goes onto the spam-blacklist.

Making the bot harsher is possible, admins can add exceptions to some list (see userpage of the bot), but generally it is better to use stronger methods if links become a real problem. I often try just to revert spammers, and quite some of them get the message before we have to block, protect or blacklist, keeping disruption minimal. I hope this explains. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 08:15, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

My external link was deleted

I am Maurice Karnaugh, known to Wiki as Unclejzero. I have a blog in blogspot under the name, unclej0. I tried to add that link to my page in Wiki but it got automatically removed. Can you help me? Unclejzero (talk) 04:28, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

Yep, I can, please read the conflict of interest guideline, the business FAQ, the external links guideline, what wikipedia is not. I hope this helps. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 10:08, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

Bot removes all edits

The bot took not away the edit with the link it didn't like, but the edit before. See the history of Reel (dance). The message posted to the users talk page is way too long and incoherent. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Haberg (talk • contribs) 09:00, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

Yep, it reverts all, parsing out the offending link is practically impossible for automation, that is why the bot is asking you to re-evaluate the edit. The messages are quite long, indeed, but it needs to explain why it reverts and what you can do. I hope this explains. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 10:06, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

Not a bot

Very sorry you removed my external link, but if it is against your rules then I must accept your decision gracefully. However, the link was to a fansite giving information to fans that is not available anywhere else on the web.It is most definitely not spam. It is on a website I began ten long years ago, with myself receiving no remunerations for it.The site does not contain advertisements as I am only interested in letting people share my interest. The site is just a fan site, no other ulterior motive is intended.Paranoidmonitor (talk) 09:51, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

Fansites are generally strongly discouraged (see the external links guideline), and we are not writing a linkfarm here (and XLinkbot is designed to revert additions of external links and email addresses which are in questionable against the policies and guidelines, not for spam only, though it includes spam). But if you believe that here you satisfy the external links guideline, then by all means, revert the bot. But I guess you might want to discuss the site first on the talkpage or with a wikiproject. I hope this explains. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 10:04, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

Please do not

Please do not remove my link, it is of great relevance. 20:02, 12 March 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by John Norrison (talk • contribs)

Mr. XLinkBot, please stop removing my link. —Preceding unsigned comment added by John Norrison (talk • contribs) 20:15, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

Please read the policies and guidelines presented to you. That way of linking is not appropriate, and the info.. nah .. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 20:24, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

Nhopkg

A tag has been placed on Nhopkg, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a very short article providing no content to the reader. Please note that external links, "See also" section, book reference, category tag, template tag, interwiki link, rephrasing of the title, or an attempt to contact the subject of the article don't count as content. Please see Wikipedia:Stub for our minimum information standards for short articles. Also please note that articles must be on notable subjects and should provide references to reliable sources that verify their content.

Ah. ??? --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 20:23, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

removed link

Hi. I've add an external link "http://harmoniums.weebly.com" that is a detailed description of harmoniums'world. I think it is no spam but an helpful documentation. Regards 88.42.232.254 (talk) 11:16, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

If you think the link complies with our policies and guidelines, then you can undo the bot's revert. Thanks. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 10:34, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

Crispian St Peters

Hello, I am new to editing on Wikipedia. The external link to my edit was removed along with the sentence I had added to clarify the content. I do not know why the external link was removed as I am not associated in any way with the source of the external link and felt it helpful to document my source. I have reinserted the comment without the link. Has someone objected to the sentence I have added? Thank you, I think this is a very nice site and I use if often. Perhapsalongway --Perhapsalongway (talk) 23:18, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

Hmm, tripod is not a proper reference for that (user submitted content etc., see the reliable sources guideline), you may want to find the original source of the reference, and reference that (see the citation guideline, and the footnotes guideline). --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 10:41, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

What?

This bot is a net loss, uncritically removing external links is a disservice and antithetical to the wiki project. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.196.246.71 (talk) 17:09, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

Not that I entirely agree with using wordpress as a reference (user submitted content and such), I have converted your edit to a proper reference. You did the right thing, just as the bot suggested. I hope this helps. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 10:39, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Paul O'Grady Wiki Article

Hi, Im Just Trying To Edit The Article By Putting My Paul O'Grady Fan Club Link In In The External Links Section But It Keeps Dissapearing On Me. Do I Need Permission To Do It Or ?? Please Get Back To Me Also I am New To Wiki —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.45.255.165 (talk) 18:04, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

The remark on your talkpage already sent you to the external links guideline. I should also send you to our conflict of interest guideline. I hope this explains. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 10:37, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Special:AbuseFilter/125

This edit of yours got caught in my filter that recognizes edits that add excessively repeated characters and phrases. When I reviewed the diff, I couldn't find the reason it was tripped. Can you please shine a light on it? According to the filter there was a phrase 3-25 characters long which you repeated at least 4 times in a row. -- Mgm|^(talk) 10:22, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

It shines light on my inconsistency in linking, but the parts '[[WP:' and '[[Wikipedia:' both appear three times in the text. the word 'Wikipedia' occurs also quite often .. Could that be it (if so, then talkpages should not be checked with this filter, as it will trip me quite often if I warn users with reference to a handful of policies and guidelines ..)? --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 10:36, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Bots like yours are a liability to Wikipedia

Your bot epitimizes why Wikipedia fails so often to receive credibility as a source of knowledge within academic circles. Instead of taking the time to investigate each source of content, you remove links that are hosted on a given domain (e.g., myspace videos). Wikipedia was never intended to be subject to a machine's systematic enforcement of how the machine's creator interprets policies. It's really a shame that a site based on the principles of open access is polluted by a device that reflects the creator's opinion that knowledge should be discriminated against based on the domain that hosts its resource. What's next, your bot will remove comments from posters from certain geographic regions of the country that don't stack up to your own personal IQ/intelligence stereotypes? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.203.107.70 (talk) 04:48, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

No, not exactly. First, the bot is quite friendly in the beginning, tries not to be bitey at all, and has quite some safeguards. Moreover, yes, it interprets policy/guideline according to the creator, but as it has successfully been granted its bot-status after a lengthy discussion on a Bot Request For Approval, many long-term editors generally agree with its operation (and there are since it started working, hardly any complaints about it really wrongly reverting editors. So, in a way, the bot is interpreting policy and guideline quite like many long-term editors do. Simply: Myspace-, Youtube-, Bebo-link are very often a problem, especially when added by editors who are not familiar with policy and guidelines. Regarding myspace, a recent survey showed that the bot has quite a low error rate (in the order of 1 edit which may have been appropriate on 30 reverts .. and that one was not a 'must-have myspace'). I am sorry that you feel this way, but we are still not an internet directory.

No, there are no plans for removing comments from posters from certain geographic regions of the country (which country, actually) that don't stack up to my personal IQ/inelligence stereotypes, as that information is not part of policies and guidelines which discourage these things. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 08:37, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

I examined this edit which was the cause of XLinkBot's revert. That myspace does not comply with our policies and guidelines, can you tell me what it adds to the contents of the page? --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 08:40, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

Sucks ..

Wikipedia SUCKS! Your stupid bot deletes my post whether I add a link or not... Its just another example on how something "free" is not really "free" at all.. Thanks for YOUR inconvienance, I will no longer be using wikipedia.... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.135.251.109 (talk) 21:52, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

I hope you noticed that you were reverted by this bot, and by others. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 08:32, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

Image

Its the same image as the existing one but a different size so as to not overload the server. So i am reverting the reversion. 124.121.245.208 (talk) 09:21, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

I removed the link, either upload an image to commons, or link to the official version, this link is in violation of the external links guideline. Thanks. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 09:35, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

Legendary Pink Dots annotation links

While I understand that Wikipedia is not a repository of links, I do understand that relevant links are appropriate. If my method of linking was not correct, please explain or point me to the correct guideline. I have the blessing of the Admins at LyricWiki as well as the actual band themselves to post these online. Thank you very much.70.147.242.236 (talk) 09:12, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for your remark, but: LyrikWiki? Their blessing? OK, you were pointed to our external links guideline. Wikis are generally not suitable as external links (not stable, unverified, etc. etc.), linking to lyriks (besides that it does not add to the article ..) is often not OK as a lot of lyriks have copyrights which are not met by the sites displaying them. Moreover, in this edit you do create quite a repository of links.

They certainly should not be linked from the page of the artist (again in our external links guideline, not directly linked, the page is about the artist, not about the song/lyriks), but could be (!) appropriate on a page of the song. However, such a page should tell about the song, why it was written, and might cite certain points of the lyriks for that. For that a link to the lyriks could be a source, but not to one on a wiki, it should be on the artist's homepage or other official medium. I hope this explains. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 10:45, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

Andrea de Cesaris

Thanks! It's okay I didn't use that photo in that location in the end. It was merely a link to the author! --Thelostlibertine (talk) 11:52, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

It is always better to try a picture that you can upload. I hope this explains. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 13:22, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Worldbuilding

Hello. I was wondering why this bot undid my edit over at Worldbuilding. There is a wiki at Wikia that a lot of great examples of Conworlds, especially since there is a balance of all three types: Realism, Fantasy, and Sci-Fi. Tell me if it's ok to un-do or not. 68.56.178.51 (talk) 12:49, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Hmm. Wikis are generally not good sources or external links, please see the list of links to avoid in our external links guideline. I hope this explains. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 13:21, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Well, I suppose we don't really need a like to a wiki since the guideline says wikis generally aren't good things to link to, but the Conworlds Wikia has plenty of good articles about detailed conworlds that could give the reader a good sense of what Worldbuilding is. 68.56.178.51 (talk) 19:26, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Would it not be great to incorporate that all here ..? We are after all writing an encyclopedia. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 19:49, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Like I said, it has plenty of good examples, to give a sense of what Worldbuilding is, but I'll let it go. Thanks anyway. I'm just saying because this wiki probably is a good source, unlike what the guide says. 68.56.178.51 (talk) 01:56, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Odd one

Can XLinkBot kill "mediamatters.org/issues_topics/tags/" -- the whole string, since all of these links to search results violate WP:ELNO #9, but not other pages? WhatamIdoing (talk) 17:27, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Done. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 18:49, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

link from FreeON page to electronicstructure.blogspot.com

Hi,

I put a link to a subject matter blog that I started for open discussion of philosophical and technical aspects of the FreeON project. As this blog is written by me, and I am the technical expert in this area, with 30+ papers in the field, I think it is appropriate for the wiki.

Sincerely, Matt Challacombe —Preceding unsigned comment added by Matt Challacombe (talk • contribs) 23:56, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Overzealous reverts

Dear Bot, please try to reprogram yourself not to be so overzealous in your reverts. Take for example your recent revert of my edits to Stanley Baxter. Note that I made 5 edits, and that only one of those edits was objectionable according to your criteria - yet you reverted them all back to the last edit preceding my edits. Why? Why not just revert the one objectionable edit? Such stupidity is unforgivable, even in an automaton. Pull your socks up. Thanks. 91.106.167.147 (talk) 13:01, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Have you read the message the bot leaves you? Thanks. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 13:15, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Yes, I have read (and re-read) the message in its entirety. The message does not explain why the bot thinks it is necessary to revert completely distinct edits (i.e. submitted separately) that in no way run foul of its reversion criteria. This is a bug, I'm afraid. 91.106.167.147 (talk) 16:48, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

No, it is a setting. The choice is between only reverting the last edit by an editor (and some spammers accidentaly include a broken link first, which they then repair in a second edit, resulting in reverting to a broken page), or reverting all and asking the editor to undo the edit of the bot, and in the meantime repairing the edit. I agree, the choice is difficult, but this is often the least disruptive. Still, both situations do occur, and generally, this is the best, as the chances are minimal that the version before the editor contains something broken, and through the undo, the whole edit is not lost. The best solution would be to parse out the 'offending' link, but seen the many possible ways of including links that is deemed practically impossible. I hope this explains. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 16:54, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

I do understand your position better now, thanks for taking the time to explain it. (The main reason I was frustrated by this was because I prefer to edit anonymously, and had I not happened to have remained logged in with the same IP today, I would have missed the bot's message and my edits would have been silently reverted without anyone's knowledge). 91.106.167.147 (talk) 22:24, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Editing company info

{{helpme}}

I am trying to add information on our company page. Relevent information has been reverted such as a link to our myspace and to our new compnay feature- EMG TV...plus my edits in the text to illustrate that we have other manufacturers that use our gear and to clarifly more clearly that we make both active and passive technology and highlight our bass and accessories line has also not made it past your editors. I am not sure how to go about citing all this stuff since its just new company info. The only citations I can give are press releases, (which were disseminated by us internally)....I am confused here...

(Solderless (talk) 17:56, 10 April 2009 (UTC))

Well, we are not an advertising service, please read our conflict of interest guideline, the external links guideline and the business FAQ. I hope this explains. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 18:15, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

typepad article does need typepad links

This bot thinks the typepad article should not contain any links to typepad! -96.233.18.103 (talk) 01:26, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

It should only contain one link to typepad, the official one. If it reverted that one, then, as the bot says, accept the creators apology and revert the edit. I hope this helps. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 11:48, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

A Very Christmas Story

THANK U FOR INFO, PLEASE LET ME EXPLAIN: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5oZe8o8sGcg THIS WAS OFFICIAL MUSIC FROM THE MOVIE AND ALSO PRODUCTION CLIP This from google : http://video.google.pl/videosearch?q=kto+wie+de+su&www_google_domain=www.google.pl&hl=pl&emb=0&aq=1&oq=kto+wie# its a mix of Disney and its not a related to this movie - except song Best regards--MARTHA WARTA 2000 (talk) 18:12, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

Hmm, and where is the copyright notice? --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 18:40, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

Toni Senecal

I was updating her web page article. She was at WB11 and then went to Fox5 NYC. Last March she moved back to the CW11. Those links were references to her doing so. You are retro grading the article to old wrong information that is out of date. Do I have to complain to Jimbo Wales about this?

69.121.67.135 (talk) 21:09, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Myspace blogs as a ref, facebook while she has an official page. Please read our reliable sources guideline and our external links guideline (and some other policies and guidelines as well, maybe). --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 13:59, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

How do I put my article in a category? And how do I make other names redirect to it?

{{helpme}} Your question. --Flamsam (talk) 10:16, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

1) Add [[Category:ABC]] or use an appropriate template; 2) Create those articles, with the sole content #REDIRECT [[Other article]]. p.s. Why is this here? Oh well, you can move it if you want. - Jarry1250 ^{(t, c)} 10:57, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Dean Koontz Fanspace regex rule(s) =(

Hello, I am new so please don't crucify me! =(

I think I have spent less than one hour trying to figure out how to keep an edit on the Dean Koontz page. I've noticed that other celebrities have Myspace pages listed for them, and since I moderate The Dean Koontz Fanspace, I only thought it natural to include it among the external links on Dean's page. His employees frequently provide me with advanced info not yet available anywhere else, so I tend to post news earlier than most other websites.

I keep losing my edit due to this: The external links I reverted were matching the following regex rule(s): \bmyspace\.com (links: http://www.myspace.com/deankoontzfans).

What am I doing wrong please? Like I said, I see other Myspace pages linked up on Wiki, like Nathan Fillion for instance, so how I can I fix this? That is if it's even possible. Thank you. :)

Dreamyst (talk) 04:38, 14 April 2009 (UTC) Chris

Sure, it is possible. But, myspace links and fansite links are generally not suitable as external links (it is explained in our external links guideline). You also say here that you are involved in the site, which would give you a conflict of interest. If you however think that the link is of interest, I would strongly suggest you to discuss it on the talkpage first.

Regarding that similar links exist on other pages, it is not really an argument, we may not have cleaned that part up yet, or it may have been included for a certain reason. I hope this explains. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 10:29, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for the reply. I just now noticed Myspace and Facebook at #10 on external links to avoid. =( That's a shame. My apologies for not noticing this sooner. Dreamyst (talk) 19:18, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

Persistent internet chatboard spam

Can we get http://no-ets.com/ added to the list, for spamming Endoscopic thoracic sympathectomy? The anon recently drew my attention to the fact that we've been fighting this one since 2006. WhatamIdoing (talk) 04:09, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

Mike Ofdfield

Hi, I am ommadawn69, I received your message about deleting my link on the Mike Oldfield page. I am sorry, I didn't know I was violating any guidelines. My apologies. I saw the section which said "fan-related sites" I was assuming it was for links to fan-related groups of Mike Oldfield. And I saw the links, one is a fan message board and information, and the other is the same. The group I was putting up the link is a fan-related link and it is a discussion group that has information, interviews, files, etc. Unsure, according to the guidelines, was the problem. If you can explain it better so I know not try to add something like this again. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ommadawn69 (talk • contribs) 13:40, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for your question. Well, basically, all is outlined in our external links guideline. Fansites and groups-sites are generally 'to be avoided'. If you are unsure, start a post on talk:Mike Oldfield page about this link. I hope this explains. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 13:45, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

Hi Dirk, thanks. And it does seem that fansites are to be avoided. But there is a section called "fansites" that is what confuses me. If there is a section, then links to fansites should be accepted. I don't know, maybe it's just me. LOL. That's cool, I just want bother. I appreciate your help though. :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ommadawn69 (talk • contribs) 23:36, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

Well, if the fansites are really notable or really add to the page .. it is 'avoid', not 'prohibited'. But well, maybe they escaped the scrutiny, or they were discussed on the talkpage and thought worthy of inclusion, or whatever. I guess the talkpage is the place to be. And you are certainly not bothering us here. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 16:53, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

icarly

the upcoming episodes you dealted are realy i got them from http://nathankressfansite.ning.com. so whyt can't they be on there. please respond 76.241.64.229 (talk) 20:23, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

We are not a crystal ball. And ning.com is not a reliable source for such information. I hope this explains. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 10:52, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Taylor Swift

Sorry about adding a link to Taylor Swift's MySpace. I figured if a link to the Internet Movie Database was Wikipedia worthy, then so was it. My apologies, it won't happen again. Chachamim (talk) 05:51, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

Well, if you believe the link is according to policy and guideline, by all means, undo the bot revert (some myspaces are OK, though often they are not; this case looks like OK, though maybe superfluous, does the subject also have an official website?). I hope this explains. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 10:51, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Request to Undo deletion of post

Again, I apologize if I have inadvertently violated any guidelines to posting messages. I am a new user and am sincerely trying to start contributing meaningful posts to Wikipedia. I do not believe my posts to be spam, for the reasons cited previously. In accordance with your message I do wish to undo the deletion of my last post, but I need your guidance and assistance in informing me what changes I may need to make in order that the post can be reverted and future posts do not suffer the same fate. Thank you for your kind assistance. Kentucky Wildcat (talk) 03:38, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

If you believe the link the bot reverted on, is of interest, and does not 'violate' our external links guideline, then just undo the whole bot revert (click on the difflink the bot gives you, the 'next edit' will lead you to the bot revert, and there will be an undo-link to undo that edit at the top of your screen). If you believe that the link is not suitable, then you can undo and adapt the edit. Please be aware, the bot is not only to revert spam (spam actually normally goes onto the blacklist so it can't be used anymore), it is for links which can be fine, but which are nonetheless often used inappropriately. I hope this explains. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 10:50, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Hi, Quick Question

I just posted [Musatov's personal blog to the entry Martin Musatov. It is really his personal blog, is it okay to post this? I am a big fan of the Witchblade movie and I did a Google searchand found this. Thank you. 216.155.136.84 (talk) 11:39, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Blogs are generally to be avoided, and if there is an official page, the blog is less necessery. If in doubt, please discuss on the talkpage. I hope this helps. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 10:47, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Articles

I was making a article about me and my band and it was earsed i put a lot of hard work in it and they deleated it i find that wrong and rude i demand it bcak and an apologie just because im not signed dosent mean i should have had my stuff deleated if i was deleated i think all the artist and musians pages should be delated —Preceding unsigned comment added by J-foldUm (talk • contribs) 17:08, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

Well, I'd like you to have a look at our conflict of interest guideline and the business FAQ. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 10:45, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Consider updating markup to conform to WP:UTM

The format put forth in WP:UTM is this (headers moved one level lower):

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Note: Always remember to substitute user warning templates. For help on user warnings, see the WikiProject on User Warnings.
Older warnings may have been removed, but are still visible in the page history.
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April 2009

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May 2009

warning
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The line breaks in your bot's output make it difficult for other editors to conform to this standard, because they break the numbered list. Please consider adding the number sign (#) to the beginning of the text, and replacing the line breaks with <br><br>. This would allow people to conform to WP:UTM without having to edit your bot's text. Thank you. Whatever404 (talk) 13:25, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

Working on it, I will move more into User:XLinkBot/Settings, so that the whole warning is a concatenation of settings vars, not a mix (as it is now, the bot does '$talk_page = "\n\n$warning";'). May take a bit, and may result in some broken warnings in the next couple of edits. I'll keep you posted. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 09:04, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

See diff, is that how you would like to see it? --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 09:40, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

OK, the warning is now a concatenation of the following:

First remark (which is not an official warning!): <firstrevertremark><revertexplanation><'specificwarning'><endtext> --~~~~<isiptext (if IP)>
First-Fourth warning: <#####warning><revertexplanation><'specificwarning'><endtext> --~~~~<isiptext (if IP)>

In this, <'specificwarning'> is a concatenation of some of the texts <imagetext>, <emailtext> etc. (which are hardcoded preceded by a space, as they are generally on the same line as the <revertexplanation>. The code replaces the 'vars' in the text with the appropriate data where needed. The whole warning can now be constructed from the settings. If you can figure out to precede the friendly warning <firstrevertremark> with a 'zero', that would be appreciated. I hope this helps. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 10:31, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Myspace link removed

Your bot removed a ton of links. Including NY TIMES, NY POST and several others. There was also a myspace link. The myspace link was refered to in a ny times article right next to it. Thus it was included. Not for reference, but for further interest for readers. CashRules (talk) 08:02, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Commented on user talkpage. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 10:45, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Random Reference Links Removed

Practically all the links I provided for reference in the Banjo Kazooie (series) section have been removed. Thanks very much...-_- —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.103.41.86 (talk) 08:16, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

You included numerous video's on youtube, and referenes to forums. The inline links violate our external links guideline, and the forums are hardly reliable sources. But I think that when you adapt your edit, there certainly is room for improvement. Thanks! --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 09:15, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

XLinkBot removed user warnings

See this edit by XLinkBot. It looks like it meant to append a warning: either bad manners or a bug caused it to remove earlier warnings. —EncMstr (talk) 21:39, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Nah, neither bad manners nor bug (at least in XLinkBot), I am afraid this was a glitch in the mediawiki server (probably due to high server load), not giving proper data back to the bot. I'll try and put a catch in the code (something like 'if pagecontent eq "1" then', as that seems to be the case), you are right in that this should not happen, better not to warn then (and have some lucky spammers ;-) ). Thanks for showing me this. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 08:29, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Removal of link to blog and for book

I can understand as per the extensive and rather restrictive policies on what not to link guidelines that the link first my book was removed by someone calling themselves Cadwaladr, and then a link to my blog, which directly relates to the content on the page, ie British Folk Customs - including the Ashen Faggot, by this XLinkBot. However, what I cannot understand is how someone such as myself, who has written a short and informative book that is directly about Ashen Faggot, and is based on personal experience of attending the burning of the ashen faggot on numerous occasions in Axmouth - which is directly mentioned in the article - can bring this to the attention of readers, who, if they have search Wikipedia for information on this topic, may well be interested in finding out more about it? Perhaps I am being naive in my assumption that Wikipedia is a repository of information that can broaden its readers horizons and lead them to new and interesting discoveries? From what I gather from the guidelines, it would be acceptable for someone else to post a link that highlights my book, but not me, myself? Perhaps I should be someone like this Cadwaladr character who seems to spend their life on here, but I am not, I am simply trying to offer a small bit of information to anyone who wants to take a look. I'll know not to look here for information that might prove useful in future. Very disappointed...

09kernow73 (talk) 20:34, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Have you read our conflict of interest guideline?? May I suggest you to discuss further on the talkpage first? I am sorry that you are disappointed, but it is better to avoid edits which look like promotional, but to discuss them first. I hope this explains. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 08:31, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Nicole Linkletters Twitter Link Posted on her Wikipedia

I am writing because this because I am wondering if Nicole Linkletter's Official Twitter that was posted http://twitter.com/niclinkletter recently is a REAL ACCT FOR HER OR FAKE?? The person who created that account on twitter had recently contacted me on twitter and we were supposed to be doing a charity and I believe I was scammed due to the fact that twitter investigated the acct and suspended it due to the fact that it was impersonated, and they said it was not a real account, and the link for it still exhists on this page. So is it the REAL acct for Nicole Linkletter or a FAKE acct on twitter?

Thankyou so much! Snow105644479 (talk) 22:27, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for asking, but , eh, I am not sure why you ask this to a bot. I will however have a look. Twitter can be a fine link, but they should be treated similarly as e.g. MySpace and Blogspot etc., which roughly means, that they have to be the official myspace/twitter/blog of the subject of the article, and when there is an official page of the subject (generally 'subject.com'), then all these become less important and sometimes even superfluous. If in doubt, I would discuss on the talkpage. If the page is a problem (as in, it is being pushed) and it is really inappropriate, you can file a blacklist request. Thanks. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 08:35, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

removing external links?

Why did the xlinkbot remove my external link that I added? —Preceding unsigned comment added by All graffiti all the time (talk • contribs) 01:46, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the question, I see you have been a bit pushy with this link, please discuss on talkpages before inserting the link again. And before discussion, you might want to have a look at what wikipedia is not, our conflict of interest guideline and our external links guideline (note the links to avoid section in that). I hope this explains. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 08:37, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Link added to the Porsche 356 page

I've been trying to add an external link to the Porsche 356 page. It is not spam and points to a useful club dedicated to the Porsche 356 on Facebook. The link is here if you would like to view it. www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=38994586955 Please consider allowing this link to be placed in in the Porsche 356 page.

Best regards,

~dennis —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.174.120.199 (talk) 04:42, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

A facebook of a car? No, thanks. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 08:38, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Question

Hello. I am wondering if you are a Wikipedia admin? And, whether you are or are not, I would like to ask your help with a certain matter. Please reply at my Talk Page. Let me know if you can help. Thanks. (Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 00:18, 1 May 2009 (UTC))

Nope, the bot is not an admin, but the operators are. If you need help, you can add {{helpme}} to your talkpage, and people will come. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 09:55, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

jumo205

You have forgotten to include the Jimo 205 Diesel aero engine in your coverage of the Jumo series of WWII engines, Why? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.54.68.95 (talk) 03:36, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for your question, but, sorry, I don't understand. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 10:07, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

Removal of My External Link

I've gotten a message from this user saying the external link I've placed on the page Pixie Lott has been marked as spam and has been reverted. The link I had placed on the page included the official release date of Pixie Lott's album - revealed on a Youtube video. Will someone please put it up for me properly, because it is information that should be on a Wiki page, I just don't know how to put it up properly. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.71.17.172 (talk) 08:59, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

Not spam, 'problematic external link'. Youtube has many problems, the main being that there is much info with copyright problems. Could you check the link against our external links guideline, and if it really is OK, revert the bot edit (you can click the link to your edit it provided, click next, which is the XLinkBot edit, and then click 'undo' and save). I hope this explains. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 10:09, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

Bot leaves too big of a talk page message

I believe that XLinkBot possibly leaves too large of a talk page message when warning users. In the case of this edit, the bot leaves a welcome message, and then the warning, which is based on the level-one "welcome to Wikipedia" AGF warning. This is not only a bit too long and redundant (two "welcome" lines in the same edit), but it also seems to send a mixed message, as we are thanking them for contributing material that is being reverted for being against content guidelines.

I think that if the bot skipped the welcome message and just dropped the warning on users' talk pages, this would make a lot more sense. SchuminWeb (Talk) 15:10, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the thoughts. Size is a matter of taste, I also do leave both a welcome message and a warning when I warn editors. I think that is more friendly than just leave a warning (which does seem too bitey). I agree with the redundancy of the two welcomes, but there it is the difference between where users do get a welcome and which don't, difficult to get around. And editors who manage to get more than one first level warning also get welcomed over and over (which also happens regularly!). The part which is mixed is a slight rewrite of the official vandalism warnings like {{uw-spam1}} (and also {{uw-vandalism1}}), so I don't understand why this bot should not use that in its own 'uw-spam0' message.

I agree that for some links, the combination of the warnings and the bot-explanation (which I believe is necessery) may give long warnings here and there. However, it nicely explains what the editor can do afterwards to resolve the issue, or that the editor is free to revert the bot. Most of this can however be edited in 'real time' in User:XLinkBot/Settings, what text would you suggest? --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 18:33, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

BBC Introducing links removed

I work for BBC Introducing in Essex and added links to the BBC Introducing page to our youtube, myspace and bbc.co.uk site, why where these removed by autobot? I want them added! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mikebromfield (talk • contribs) 10:07, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

Links to YouTube and Myspace are commonly misused, thus the bot reverts these link additions when done by new users and leaves the user a message advising them of our External Links guideline. In the case of the BBC Introducing page, while having links to the official presence on those services is generally ok, there are so many external links in the article that it might be better to link to a single page on your site which contains the links, rather than listing them all on the Wikipedia page. As the message from XLinkBot states, you may revert the bot if you feel it was in error. Given that you work for BBC Introducing, you should also read our Conflict of Interest guidelines. --Versa geek 12:52, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the help, Im a new user to wiki and will take that on board. Mikebromfield 15:51 3rd May 2009 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mikebromfield (talk • contribs) 14:54, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

Unwanted link reversion

Just notifying (more likely reminding) you that your bot is unable to distinguish valid from invalid use of links. In this case I'm talking about pop culture, so linking to a pseudoscience web site from About.com is essential to proving the point that the issue is still talked about in pop culture. -moritheil^Talk 23:01, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

Yes, we are aware of this limitation. This is why the bot only reverts commonly misused links when they are added by new users. In the case of about.com, while the site has some of original content, a large portion of the information there is a mirror of our content. --Versa geek 12:44, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

I appreciate the response. Sadly, this is happening again. I've been trying to reinstate the link section over at Symbolism and this bot has started edit-warring me because it doesn't like the wikia link that the original link section included. I'm not sure why it hasn't stopped after I undid it once and continued editing. I have no objection to the idea that we need to find better links but it's annoying to get warnings from a bot that doesn't understand what I'm doing, which is restoring an entire section that was deleted in error. -moritheil^Talk 02:10, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

Restored link section again and it seems to have stopped reverting me. Working fine now. Just a suggestion, maybe you could make it selectively identify and remove just links instead of using reversion. If I had not stuck around we would have lost not only the link section but also all the other edits I had made for NPOV, style, clarity, etc. -moritheil^Talk 02:22, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

You're now on total ignore for this bot. I have to have a second look at this, there is a bug here, I am afraid. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 17:28, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

Hmm, no, no bug, your account age indeed falls in the correct range (I expected you to be 'older' (in terms of wikipedia-account-age)). Well, as I said, you are on total ignore now anyway. About.com and wikia wikis are not the best links anyway, but I'll have a second look at this situation later. Thanks for pointing us to this! --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 17:31, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

Coptic Versions

Bot made a mistake, this edit was good, somebody added good link - I was looking for it. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 19:42, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

Well, not really making a mistake (that is human ;-) ). More that it here reverted a link which was good, a false positive. Just revert the bot, and all is OK. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 17:33, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

Skee-Lo

Hi was there anything really wrong with the Skee-Lo myspace link I believe it is credible. I was also going to update the discography based on the info from myspace as he has a pending new album. Thanks, T —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.5.100.156 (talk) 23:52, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

Myspace links are very often unsuitable, but if this is the official MySpace of Skee-Lo, then it might be a suitable external link. Just revert the bot if that is the case. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 17:33, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

the links to this site are all verifiable third party websites that I could find to support the article

I am the creator of the page.

I created the page becuase I use the software and wanted to create a place where others could get real and non-biased information about the software.

The links are the best that I could find on the web after quite a bit of research and searching. I am not sure why the bot does not like the links.

Please let me know. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kumar245 (talk • contribs) 21:00, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

I think the sources are fine, but XLinkBot complained about the blog, which I indeed also think was superfluous (it looks like it is already removed again). I hope this explains. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 17:46, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

Reverted link

Hey, thank you for reminder. I would just want to ask what is the reason you removed it. The site is full of information about Philippine presidents, and there is nothing wrong about it.- Democraticsystem (talk) 08:27, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

Pages on multiply are often not suitable per our external links guideline (see WP:ELNO). However, this site may be suitable as a reference here and there. Maybe you can use the content to expand the article? --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 12:06, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

Link spam at Brugal

Unfortunately, the same user came back later and re-inserted the link, this time using a redirect to fool the bot. I have manually reverted the edit.

Is there some place I can report the user? Rees11 (talk) 16:02, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

Hmm, only two edits. I would just keep monitoring, if they really persists, then further action may be necessery. Thanks! --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 12:02, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

1969 draft page

Dude. Why did you deleate the link for. Its an example. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.16.210.71 (talk) 23:19, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

You might want to have a look at WP:COPYRIGHT, also mentioned for youtube in the external links guideline. Thanks. These videos are almost always copyrighted, and we should not link to material in violation of said copyrights. If this link is OK, I'd suggest you to revert the bot. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 12:04, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

Help adding image to a page

Hello, I am Highwayman91 and I need help adding an image to a page. I have a found an image for album art and used imageshack to turn it into a JPEG. I wish to edit the "Full Moon" album page so that I may add that image for that album. Please send assistance soon! Here is the image I wish to add: [8] --The Highwayman (talk) 19:40, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

You need to go to Wikipedia:Upload to upload an image. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 19:01, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

Mark Howard (producer)

Hi, are you saying i cannot have a link to Mark Howards Myspace? im sorry i dont quite understand as it is his official website? or i should have it as an external link? please dont delete the page it is a link to some of the great music that has been created over the past 20 years and i am working very hard on it. i can delete the myspace unless you could be a little more specific with me... thanks so much..! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Charliedylan (talk • contribs) 17:42, 13 May 2009 (UTC) Also why was the beginning of my page about the records Mark Howard has worked on taken off.. ? it was written by me and all true? please let me know? this is somewhat confusing!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Charliedylan (talk • contribs) 17:51, 13 May 2009 (UTC) Also know the Music Info Box i added has been taken down??? was that because Mark Howards myspace is on there. i also have full permission by him to use his myspace link. please explain this to me...thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by Charliedylan (talk • contribs) 17:54, 13 May 2009 (UTC) ok not only that but all the work i had done in the discography section has been undone. i was editing them all so they were not capital letters so people could link to other wikipedia pages. Mark Howard is a grammy award winning record producer.. this is not some kid trying to promote himself. he has worked with hundreds of bands/ oscar winning soundtracks etc???? please tell me what is going on? ive worked for 2 days on this...??? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Charliedylan (talk • contribs) 17:58, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

For the link, that depends. Please have a look at Wikipedia:External links. Myspace links can be fine, but, as you suggest here, only if they are the official myspace of the subject, and if there is not an official page of the subject. For the rest of the edits, it is best to undo the bot-edit (leaving out the link if it does fail Wikipedia:External links. I hope this explains. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 19:01, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

Uploading a photo?

hi thanks for getting back to me about mark howard producer. ive corrected it accordingly...could you help me out on uploading a photo into music info box? when i drag the photo in it just comes up as a link but doesnt show photo? thanks!--Charliedylan (talk) 21:44, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

You're welcome, for uploading a picture, see Wikipedia:Upload. Hope this helps. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 22:15, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

Miss Dom. Rep.

Ok. thank you :]

!--MissRD394 (talk) 6:16, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

You're welcome! --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 11:57, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

Webmaster

Hi-I am JD's (and several other pro wrestlers) webmaster. I am simply correcting INCORRECT information someone put up and adding an official page link. I would like to revert my text back. Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Webmaster13 (talk • contribs) 05:08, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

Huh? I can't find a revert by XLinkBot that you would want to revert. Could you point me somewhere? Also, you might want to have a look at our conflict of interest guideline. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 11:57, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

Long and confusing edit summaries

BOT--Reverting link addition(s) by Lyinmantom to revision 289907535 (http://extremocomic.weebly.com, http://extremocomic.weebly.com (redirect from http://extremocomic.weebly.com))

Why repeat the very same URL three times? Bo Lindbergh (talk) 11:28, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

Curious. Why did it detect .. ah .. oooops. I am going to repair. (In short: it lists the links it finds, but the redirect detection adds a link which is not there, adding it unnecesseraly). Thanks for reporting this, this is indeed confusing. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 11:39, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

Hopefully fixed. Explanation: XLinkBot saw the addition of the weebly.com site, and catches that link. It also detected if the site is redirecting to something, and checks if the redirect of the site is a weebly site (which in this case, by definition, also true), it then stores that also as a found link (but with the addition of '(redirect from <the original site>)'). If all three are the same, they hence occur three times.

I have now rewritten, if it hits on the original, it ignores the redirect detection (which is not necessary then anyway). Thanks again. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 11:45, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

You have to be specific when you send out messagess - otherwise it is difficult to correct the mistakes

Business Today(India) is different than Business Today

--Backtracks (talk) 12:43, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

I am not sure what you mean, the warnings on your talkpage pertain a different page, and a different link. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 13:34, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

Notes

hi im trying to add notes as in the numbers at the end of sentences to add support to the article (mark howard producer). in the <ref> do i add the link www.example ? and it shows up as a number. i cant do it properly. do you have any ideas. i read the page but i still couldnt do it. thanks—Preceding unsigned comment added by Charliedylan (talk • contribs) 16:44, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

Nope, don't add www.example.com, but your link. I'll have a quick look. -Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 16:58, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

:thanks so much! i have the hang of it now. cheers--Charliedylan (talk) 19:30, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

Greeting

Nice bot you got Ocikat3 (talk) 02:38, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

How does it work and false positives

How does this bot choose which link additions to revert. this was indeed not a good link, but I don't think the bot could know. this I think is a clear false positive. These two are the only XLinkBot reverts I have seen recently, so I wonder about the accuracy. --Apoc2400 (talk) 23:19, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the question. Hmm, I am not sure the second is a false positive, is that really the official myspace of Natalie Tran. But yes, the bot does make mistakes on myspace and such, though the error rate is pretty low (I have recently looked at 30 reverts, and one was questionably OK (there were already more pages there), the rest not). The editor is suggested to re-check the edit, and when it is OK, then to revert the bot again, or to adapt the edit accordingly.

With the installation of the AbuseFilter, I have suggested to move these into a warn-only filter (or better, notice-filter) so the editor is notified of possible problems, giving the possibility to adapt the edit. I think that would be less harsh than blind reversion. I hope this explains. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 10:07, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

Does the bot revert all edits that add links to myspace? --Apoc2400 (talk) 18:27, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

It reverts Myspace links according to what it is allowed to revert (depending on settings: new users and IPs, reverts only once, strictly 3RR compliant, tries to detect if the link is inside a reference or a template, first revert is not a warning, etc. etc.). But for those, yes, it reverts all. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 08:48, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

External links removed

Hello, This is really frustrating, I have been working for several hours to screen internet to find the media files from the BBC to Youtube (press interviews, conferences, statements, TV news) i was looking for, and once there were all posted, they have been deleted!!! I have lost hours of works, because yes updating this page is also part of my job. And i have been waiting for more than a week in order to be able to upload the official picture of the main subject I am working. How can I upload files following Wikipedia rules and procedures if I am not able to just upload files? I am so disappointed with this whole thing.

Could you please help me here? many thanks --Aclouzot (talk) 23:07, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

You can go to the history tab and revert back to before this bots edit. It seems to get things wrong quite often. --Apoc2400 (talk) 08:18, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

Thanks Apoc2400 for answering this with a good faith remark. Did you actually see the edit that was reverted? Handful of YouTube video's. And guess what, they were likely in violation of our copyright policy (which is unfortunately non-negotiable).

Aclouzot, you can revert the edit, but leave out the YouTube video's, see the copyright policy and the external links guideline. Thanks. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 08:28, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

I did the revert for you. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 08:49, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

Darwin Primate group blog site

RE: DARWIN PRIMATE GROUP BLOG SITE: Hi, With regard to the Darwin Primate Group blog site link on Baboon Woman, I feel it is very important to the article that this link be left in place. The reasons for this are that this article is about Karin Saks - the subject of the film, Baboon Woman. Karin Saks is the creator of the blogsite for the Darwin Primate Group which showcases her work done for primates. The Darwin primate group is a non-profit organisation that works towards saving primates in South Africa. Unfortunately their only website in place at the moment is the blog site for darwin primate group. I am the author of this blog site (www.darwinprimategroup.blogspot.com/) and believe it is relevant to the article - anyone wanting to find out more information about Karin Saks - the subject of Baboon Woman - will find it at this blog site. Darwinprimategroup (talk) 06:09, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

A blogspot, blogs are generally not allowed per our external links guideline, and as your username suggests that you are involved with the blogspot, so I would suggest that you also have a look at the conflict of interest guideline. I hope this explains. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 08:10, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

This is with reference to my contribution http://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/Chhuchhakwas

I had added few sections in that article but all has been removed. Do am i violating some rules/regulations of wikipedia.

Few section which i had added are and has been removed :

1. How to reach : basically this guides user for reaching the place Chhuchhakwas. One external link i had used in that was of government site : http://hartrans.gov.in/roadways/time_tablelist.asp?RecPerPage=ALL, to tell user about BUS routes for place.

It is very much trusted link without violating any copy writes or something. Please reconsider this.

2. Owns : it gives more detail about the place without any external links

3. Famous For : it gives more detail about the place without any external links

4. References : one of reference was external link http://jhajjar.nic.in/PINcodesjjr.aspx which is also a government site providing details of pincodes for towns in district.

One external link http://nareshyadav.blogspot.com/ was pointing to my own blog if somebody want to know more details or want to contact me...This can be removed if any violations.

Please tell me if i will again add this content then it will be removed or not.

I hope this explains Naresh Yadav (talk) 08:37, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

—Preceding unsigned comment added by Nyadav ait (talk • contribs) 08:35, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

It does, if I see your explanation, then the bot reverted on the blogspot external link, I would suggest to click undo on the bot edit, remove the blogspot external link (per in this case the external link guideline and the conflict of interest guideline), and click save. If you think that the blogspot is of interest, I would suggest discussing that on the talkpage. I hop this helps and explains. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 09:00, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

Kaiju Big Battel External Link

In the Kaiju Big Battel wiki page, The Wiki link Kaiju Big Battel Wikia was reverted back to Jason-Thompson's Kaiju Site. I dont think it should have been since the link that was there is broken, while the link that I have replaced it is more relevant than the website that was there before. --DontEatRawHagis (talk) 04:27, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

If the link is broken, then that link might indeed be very well up for deletion. But the addition of a wikia link is generally not OK, please see the external links guideline for that (specifically, WP:ELNO says something about external wikis). --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 08:10, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

I read it and see your point, since the wiki isn't stable just yet, unlike other Wiki sites that I have seen cited, such as Tardis Wiki, Wookiepedia and others.--DontEatRawHagis (talk) 22:47, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

Removing links in Yakshagana

Some one has added personal album to Yakshagana page external links and I am trying to remove them. Why is bot insisting on keeping them?

99.225.166.229 (talk)

it reverted a perfectly acceptable page on Chenab College Jhang. I have undone its silliness so please do not unundo it! thx! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ahmed Hasan Ansari (talk • contribs) 21:14, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

Gnome Press

The link I tried to insert in the Wikipedia page Gnome Press was automatically removed, and having (subsequently) read the link guidelines, I understand why. However, the reason I wanted to insert the link to my blog is the reason I started the blog in the first place: info on Gnome Press and their books outside the few big titles is extremely scarce. I have (and continue to collect) a lot of info on Gnome Press and I believe that the site would be a very helpful addition to those seeking more info via Wikipedia. Link here: [9] Your advice please, Thanks. --Gnomepress (talk) 12:13, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

Wordpress sites are generally not suitable as external link, though there are exceptions, see the external links guideline. However, it may be a suitable reference, see the reliable sources guideline, and the footnotes and citation guidelines for how to use citations on a page. The bot should not revert you twice in a row, or revert if you use the undo-functionality (the undo-link that you see when you click the difflink that the bot gave you for the reverted edit, and then 'next edit' to see the bot's revert), and also tries to see if the link is inside a reference (and if it does, it should not revert).

Seen your username, and the subject of the page, I would also like you to have a good look at the conflict of interest guideline, and the Business FAQ. Please ensure that the page is neutral and not advertising. Thanks. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 12:55, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

Cheers. The site is neutral. Should I create a different account with a more neutral username?? I collect, read and review the books, so would also putting links to the reviews on the relevant book pages be acceptable?? This is my hobby, I am by no means a professional... Gnomepress (talk) 22:55, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

We are an encyclopedia, based on content. I would suggest to expand the articles, and use the links as references. Still, be careful with the conflict of interest, see the guideline, and the FAQ for more info. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 12:53, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

http://crusaderproject.wordpress.com - link removal

Can I ask you to instruct your bot not to remove links to this particular Wordpress blog? If you want to check, you will note that the links are legitimate and clearly within the rules of Wikipedia. Many thanks. 79.74.113.219 (talk) 07:55, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

Just revert the bot, though I think here the link could very well be used to expand the article and then function as a reference. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 12:52, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Lost in Blue (band) page deleted etc.

Hi, there is a band named Lost in Blue that has been using the name since 2000. So, I wrote a Wikipedia page for them as Lost in Blue (band). And originally, the Lost in Blue Wikipedia site went straight to the video game so I changed that page into a redirect to both the band and the game. I then made a Lost in Blue (game) page which had all the same info as the original Lost in Blue game site.

Now, I find that all my hard work is completely gone. 1, the LiB band site is not for promotion or commercial gain of any kind, I just want people to have the option of learning more about them here. All the links and references are also from official sources/sites so I don't know what the problem is. And since there has been a band named Lost in Blue much longer than the video game, it's only fair that when people simply enter "Lost in Blue", they should find links to both the game and the band.

I would appreciate an actual person to clarify all this because it was incredibly frustrating to find all my hard work gone in less than 2 days. Is Nintendo paying you guys off??? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 1999blacklist666 (talk • contribs) 20:40, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

Lost in Blue (band) continued

I forgot to mention that even though I am willing to get rid of the Myspace site links, I can't because you completely deleted my page, isn't there a way to restore it??

And I don't understand why we can't use Myspace links while there are plenty of other bands who do have them listed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 1999blacklist666 (talk • contribs) 20:47, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

The band has to be notable, and if it was deemed that it was not that, then the page may get deleted indeed. Please see WP:NOTABILITY, which links on to more information. If you think you could salvage the article, see Wikipedia:Deletion_review, where you can request undeletion. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 12:57, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Knickerbocker Village addition

My attempt to add a link to my Knickerbocker Village blog to the Knickerbocker Village page was rejected. My understanding is that blogspots trigger a rejection. My blog is not an advertisement, but a genuine attempt to provide a more complete history of the housing project by linking to archival stories, images and documents of those that used to live there. I would guess there are close to 100 former and current residents who are active readers of the blog. This also includes the KV management which supports the effort of the blog. About 40 people communicate actively in group emails and the blog has a focal point for three yearly reunions. David Bellel (Knickerbockervillage (talk) 02:52, 26 May 2009 (UTC))

You might want to read our conflict of interest guideline. Moreover, blogspots can be of interest, though generally they are not. Why not use the links in the blogspot to expand the document? --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 12:50, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

the change made to drag queens page

To whom it may concern:

The link I made off the page is a video that I hold the copyright to. Please advise on how to relink it.

Below is the information I entered. Please advise.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6qGvFlJgTg [A Shade Before Pink] It is a short film about cross-dressing. Guest appearance by Jackie Beat. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jackeechang (talk • contribs) 07:22, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

You might want to have a look at our conflict of interest guideline. Please discuss the link on the talkpage. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 12:48, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Longhorn

Hello XLinkBot.

Ok, I now know that I can't put links that link through YouTube. Thanks for that. But why have you deleted the reference (source), and the Longhorn Mix section? Because actually, it said that it isn't referenced or sourced.

Thanks. 80.41.103.79 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 11:19, 28 May 2009 (UTC).

It reverts the whole edit, so that includes other edits you performed. You can undo the bot edit, but remove the youtube (unless you are sure it does not violate our policies and guidelines). I hope this explains. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 12:47, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Craig Silvey

Hi XLinkBot Just reverted a reversion you made as although the link is off to a blog it is a reproduction on the author's own of an article that appeared in the Big Issue, a national magazine with a circulation of 70,000 which is independently edited. It's also the only article listed that looks at Silvey's most recent novel while the others are references only to his firt novel Rhubarb. Hope this clears things up. Noodles —Preceding unsigned comment added by NoodlesRomanov (talk • contribs) 12:41, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

The big issue has backissues on their website, but you have to pay for it. Reproduction of a document from such a newspaper is hence likely a copyright violation. I have again reverted the link, I would suggest to link to the original, and I think it is better as a reference anyway. I hope this explains. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 12:46, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Hi again Beetstra The Big Issue has selected articles (vendor profiles) on their website which are free. Unlike many publications they don't ask contributors to sign away their copyright to write for them (partly because the rates of pay are so small and effectively charity work). As they don't publish much of their magazine online they encourage contributors to republish their own work online. Also this is the AUSTRALIAN Big Issue (www.bigissue.org.au/) which varies from international versions. I've also re-instated Shaun Tan for the same reasons. Thanks NoodlesRomanov —Preceding unsigned comment added by NoodlesRomanov (talk • contribs) 22:41, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

OK. In that case, just undo the bot edit! Still think it would make a nice reference, not an external link. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 11:19, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

Susan Matheson

Hi there,

I wanted to thank you for making it clear that new users of Wikipedia with relevant and notable submissions are of no value. I have removed the submission for Susan Matheson. I spent significant amounts of time making sure that indeed there were references that linked to print media articles including one in the Los Angeles Times as well as one from WWD, the single most important daily newspaper for the fashion industry. I am incredibly frustrated that you, with the stroke of a button have done exactly what I was warned by other Wikipedia users would happen. Why reign terror on new users with new submissions. It is a disgrace. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Crepesuze (talk • contribs) 10:59, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

I have cleaned out the article. Yep, I see you were communicated to quite a bit, but I think most was still within the merits of the bot. I presume you have been pointed to our conflict of interest guideline? --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 11:18, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

You know why

you deserve this award!

		An Anti-vandalism sack of potatoes
		--Abce2\|AccessDenied 02:29, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks :) --Versa geek 15:47, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Question about blocked site info

Hi!

Is there a list of reasons somewhere detailing the regexs and the reasons for them? (I appreciate there may not be, since it might help evil-doers bypass restrictions)

More specifically, I watchlist Dundee and I saw XLinkBot revert this, and wondered why? The note left at the editor's talk page suggested that there was a regex match, but the URL looks - at first glance - to be a UK academic institution. I suspect there's more to this than meets the eye, and I'm being nosey/curious ;-)

Cheers, This flag once was red^propaganda_deeds 15:31, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Pls see: this. It looks like they had the misfortune of employing a SEO who was a prolific spammer.. XLinkBot's revert list is maintained on wiki at User:XLinkBot/RevertList and additions are logged with explanations or links at User:XLinkBot/RevertList_requests/log. --Versa geek 15:46, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Many thanks! That's very useful information, and my curiousity is satisfied ;-) Cheers, This flag once was red^propaganda_deeds 14:23, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

What Was Wrong with What I Did to Travis Childers?

Oh, come on, those external links were helpful. Were they not? Ronald Mckay (talk) 00:32, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Helpful, maybe, but have you read that we are not a linkfarm?, we do not need every link available, and there is already the official page, and a {{dmoz}}. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 14:16, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Irano Afghan

Hey, Yeah I used the youtube link for the Tocharian mummies but if you say thats not possible then I accept because you´re an admin but please respect the page by not totally deleting or reverting it. best regards 194.14.94.1 (talk) 14:14, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

I cleaned it up a bit, you may want to have a look at the citation guideline and the footnotes guideline. Hope this helps. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 14:18, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Brokencyde

Well first of all, thanks for the welcome words...as I edit too in Spanish I was wondering "when will somebody post that message?" so finally... Anyways, I read the problem of the link and all, so could it at least keep the part where I added the "40 Oz" reference?? this is the second time it goes down...the first i dunno why, the second for the reference problem! Well for me it is ironic... In other stuff I would like to know how can I upload the album art of their first album "The Broken!" ?? I got it, big quality, and all from the last time the article was up, but the only problem I find is what license do I have to pick?? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bc13rox (talk • contribs) 04:08, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Hmm, I think the uploading facility points to a place where you can ask for info on licensing, I don't know about that.

About the links, just undo the bots edits, it will not revert that. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 13:39, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

http://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/Suffix_tree

Hello XLinkBot,

I was studying Suffix Trees for 3 months. As a result I have Suffix Trees Java Applet that could build and visualize trees online. I think it could be helpful for others.

So I've added a link to my own blog where Java Applet is hosted. Anyone could try to use it. So I will undo your change.

Thanks, illya

Illya.havsiyevych (talk) 13:20, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

And I have removed it again, please read the external links guideline, the conflict of interest guideline and 'what Wikipedia is not' (and probably more). I hope this explains. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 13:37, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Reversion of link to Flickr collection

Hi. Is the bot reverting all new-user additions of links to Flickr photos? Here is what looks like a good edit that the bot reverted:[10]? The message XLinkBot then put on this user's talk page would only be understood by the 0.1% of people who understand regular expressions. I don't even think I understand it. Is the message saying that all links to Flickr are reverted or just some links to Flickr? Clayoquot (talk | contribs) 17:06, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Yes, it reverts most of the flickr links by 'new editors' (in the /groups, /photos and /search directories). There are still some links which are indeed OK on flickr (otherwise the links would be on the spam-blacklist), but by far the majority should not be linked per the external links guideline, 'what wikipedia is not', the conflict of interest guideline, quite some per the copyright policy should absolutely not be linked, &c., and a good alternative is to upload some images in stead of linking to them.

Could you give me an idea if you could improve the regex (by explaining what are often false positives, maybe we can exclude them).

Yes, I understand the problem of the regexes, most people will not understand. On the other hand, not including the regex gives some problems in understanding from the maintainers site in finding why a link is on the list (the regexes are logged, now it is easier to find that ..).

I hope this explains. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 17:44, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

What part of those guidelines and policies, supports the claim that "by far the majority" of Flickr pages should ~~"absolutely"~~ not be linked to? Clayoquot (talk | contribs) 04:19, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Eh, the 'absolutely' was meant for the copyright-policy only (for those images that violate copyright), the others are not as strict, but generally flickr links (especially to images) are not suitable external links per WP:EL/WP:NOT#REPOSITORY. By the way, I do think that a link to a collection can be of interest (though in this specific example, on top of an already huge list ..). There have been discussions on an abuse-filter, that warns for the problems with some external links like youtube, I'd like to include flickr and myspace there as well, as flickr-links are also added in good faith in some cases, not only 'spammed' (which also happens). --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 10:17, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Ah, I understand your clarification about "absolutely". However, having read WP:EL and WP:NOT#REPOSITORY closely, I am still not seeing where it says that Flickr links to images are generally not suitable as external links. Could you please quote the part of the guideline that backs up what you're saying? Best, Clayoquot (talk | contribs) 15:38, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

OK, WP:NOT#REPOSITORY clearly says that we are not a linkfarm, links should have their merit in being there. WP:EL words it as:

Wikipedia articles may include links to web pages outside Wikipedia, but must conform to certain formatting restrictions. Such pages could contain further research that is accurate and on-topic; information that could not be added to the article for reasons such as copyright or amount of detail; or other meaningful, relevant content that is not suitable for inclusion in an article for reasons unrelated to its accuracy.

Some external links are welcome (see "What should be linked", below), but Wikipedia's purpose is not to include a comprehensive list of external links related to each topic. No page should be linked from a Wikipedia article unless its inclusion is justifiable.

Although (single) images can tell more about a subject, they simply generally do not (an image of a city does not tell more about a city, e.g., so all these external links would need more information). Moreover, flickr images do sometimes get spammed (though generally not in a bad way), and there are often cases of a conflict of interest (again, generally not in a bad way). Another part of the flickr-additions are inappropriate in the way they get added, as people presume that encapsulating the link in img-tags or something similar results in the image being displayed, and that is yet another reason for the bot to revert and point users to the upload facility. In a way, this type of user-submitted content sites (WP:ELNO #11) are often not adding info to the article, and have similar problems as linking to YouTube video's &c. (and I would argue that when linking to a YouTube video the video at least tells, linking to a single Flickr-image tells less, and one would have to check if the object in the image is really the subject of the page ..).

As I said, I'd like this rule to be taken over by the abuse filter, as there are here undoubtedly a higher number of 'false positives' on reverting than for many other sites. I'll have a look at some recent flickr-reverts, and see. As I said, maybe we should tighten the rule a bit, and maybe you are right, and most additions are fine. I hope this explains. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 17:53, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Hmm, this may indeed have to be updated. I had a look at the XLinkBot reverts, and though I will argue that most are not 'the best' (imageless pages where the link gets added, additions to huge linkfarms, etc. etc.), most of the reverts are maybe quite fine, and some may even be informative. I will remove the rule for now. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 18:03, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

That's great. Thanks for looking into this! Clayoquot (talk | contribs) 15:35, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

World Innovation Summit for Education

Hello, just to say that I added the link http://www.wise-qatar.org/en/awards again, as it is a different part from the WISE summit. OK for the removal of social media links. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Constance l (talk • contribs) 10:10, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

That is fine, good job! Thanks. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 10:18, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Archibald Gardner

Why did you delete BYU's edited version of Archibald's diary? Is not a man or woman allowed to comment by personal statements to better place their life in a historical context? A Wikipedia policy is being violated on some level. When found, I'll let you know. In the interim, justify your narrowing action, overly abstracting Archibald's life into a sterile Wikipedia context. Thank you for considering this request. Milogardner (talk) Milo Gardner 6/11/09, 8:30 AM,PST.

OK, blogs are generally not good external links, but there are indeed some exceptions (and this may be one). However! There is resistance against the blog, and you do have a bit of a conflict of interest. I would strongly suggest you to make the case on the talkpage, and discuss inclusion there. I hope this explains. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 17:41, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Thank you!

Thank you for your kindness and warm greetings, I hope to further the article to the fullest of my capabilities and make it the best visually a looking article and descriptive article on Wikipedia. I will contribute to others as equally as i can! thank you very much. and do you think you can help promote the Yukiko Okada article for a golden star?

.. You're welcome. I'll have a look. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 07:50, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Filipino British

Hi, the reverting of my edit to the page Filipino British i believe is wrong. i am not violating any copyright or spamming. the website, although it is a blog, is used by both the Filipino community globally but also non-Filipinos too for information, research and also a hub for the community in the UK. We perform very favourably in Google and are very activ in the Filipino community in the UK which is what this page is discussing.

Please can you un-revert the edits, if that is at all possible?

86.145.78.77 (talk) 19:11, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

Blogs are quite restricted by the external links guideline. I don't think this one is appropriate here, but I think a discussion on the talkpage is the way forward. Thanks. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 10:48, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Rare Isotope Rap link

The link to the YouTube page containing the Rare Isotope Rap by Katherine McAlpine should not have been removed. The video is not copyrighted and would not readily be found elsewhere. In fact, without the link, comments regarding the video are completely unverified.--Potentialwell (talk) 20:15, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

This is not a verification, it is the video. References come from reliable sources, and this is not a source for this statement. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 10:50, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

revert bots auto deletion

The link to the YouTube page containing the verification of Stephen Spoonamores claims of voter fraud in the Premier_Election_Solutions article should not have been removed. The video is not copyrighted and falls under the US legislation on fair use (also only a short cut/fragment of the complete interview is utilized/refrenced) and would not readily be found elsewhere. In fact, without the link, comments regarding the statement is completely unverified since the article contains no other citation/documentation of the claim in question.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.215.3.220 (talk • contribs)

Hmm, you were adding it as an external link, not as a reference ... not sure this was the right place, though I see that this may be a useful link. Maybe you could discuss it on the talkpage if and how this link can be used? Thanks. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 10:52, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Ben Clatworthy

This bot restored a deleted prod. Anyone is allowed to delete a prod, so why auto-restore it? This is a bad thing to automatically do. - CobaltBlueTony™ _talk 23:08, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

It reverted on a link-addition, not on the deletion of the prod-template. I am sorry, I think this is 'collateral damage', which is impossible to prevent (and I am afraid that all anti-vandalism bots have this quirk ..). --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 10:54, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Cosmo Kramer

I hope the programmer behind this bot will read this message. Your revert on the aforementioned page was under the pretense of me including a Facebook link. However, along with that link, you reverted several additions, most of which are valid. Moreover, notice that your reversion led to an older Facebook link staying there! Basically, the bot wanted to remove the Facebook link, but ended up reverting good contributions while leaving another Facebook link intact! Any response will be greatly appreciated. 87.69.130.159 (talk) 10:24, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

It is actually a setting, or a feature. Yes, the current settings is for the bot to revert all edits by the user who added a link matching a rule. It could be set to 'revert only the last edit', but that generally gives other problems (broken links, left material, etc.). Now it is a matter of undo-ing the whole, if necessary with repairing the edit inbetween, exactly as the bot suggests. I hope this explains. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 10:57, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

MyWikiBiz.com

Hello, is there any reason why this site is on this list? it was one of the earliest additions, by Beetstra, but I've never seen evidence that MyWikiBiz meets the limited approved scope of the bot as detailed at Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/XLinkBot, Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/XLinkBot 2, and defined on the User:XLinkBot as

"XLinkBot is primarily intended to deal with domains which may have a legit use on-wiki, but are frequently misused by new and anonymous users (or have a history of being misused). The bot allows established users to add links, while reverting links added by others. IP's and new users can still edit a page that contains links on the bot's revert list, they won't be reverted unless they add or change a link themselves."

I will remove this in a day or two unless evidence or justification that it meets defined requirements of inclusion on any list like this. I'll also note that the operator of the site is about to be unbanned by the Arbcom, and despite his history, unless there is evidence (I can't a find a log of this bot's actions in regards to this domain) of a problem with his domain being somehow misused on Wikipedia, it has to come off. We don't do punitive things here, and that's the only hypothetical reason I can think of to keep the domain on any such list. Thanks. rootology (C)(T) 13:37, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

mywikibiz.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com

Massive COI spamming, sock puppetry, &c. &c. Certainly a good one on this list, may even have a good place on the blacklist. Will search for some more data later. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 13:46, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

(if I did recall it correctly, that is ..). --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 13:47, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Oh wait, I should read further. It may have been earlier on earlier revert-bot lists (like User:AntiSpamBot), and therefore being transferred here. There are no logs per link, difficult to see .. the only way of tracking is by looking at user talkpages that show up in Special:LinkSearch/*.mywikibiz.com.

This list is not punitative, it is preventing from cleanup to be done by other users when links get spammed. I don't see any widescale problems at the moment or lately anymore. What that regards, I think it might come of, indeed. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 13:52, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

OK and I'm still going to remove it unless I see presented evidence as punitive in that's up there without evidence of a need to be. You gave the links, but I looked at those before I posted this request (and they only represent current somewhat real-time status of the links). 63 hits, half of them archived talk on en.wikipedia, is a lot? Sock puppetry is by the operator, yes, but as I noted he's about to unbanned, and that has nothing to do with the website he owns and is one editor of. I know a lot of people don't like him, but we are absolutely not allowed to let our internal and irrelevant politics play any role on content areas. Where is the evidence of an actual problem with this domain name? It's lightly linked, at best, and is a valid open-source Wiki project. Compared to competing purely for-profit projects, like all the Wikia links, it's a fraction of a fraction of the links. rootology (C)(T) 13:54, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

(ec) The problem is indeed quite small here. But, it looks like it has been used on many wikis by certain editors... those things are largely in the not too far past (826 times added by one editor on 09-09-2008), until quite recent (2 on 01-05-2009). Did the spamming by certain users really stop? --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 13:59, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

I think you just answered your own question, if one person added it once in a batch almost a year ago, and the most recent "spam" (really?) activity is the inclusion of a terrible two links in January. rootology (C)(T) 14:03, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

~~Sorry, 01-05-2009 is the first of May .. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 14:06, 18 June 2009 (UTC)~~

Striked comments, did not look carefully. 'Spamming' of the link was further back, early 2008. As I said, I am not against removal of this link, no problems anymore. Consider

Removed. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 14:12, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Spam, content, or behavioral enforcement?

On a related note, are the domains here for any kind of content or behavioral reasons (e.g. blocks/bans of their owners)? I was under the impression such bots only exist for spam-related purposes. I'd be shocked if such things were being done here or Abuse Filter as content or behavioral controls. rootology (C)(T) 13:57, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

I hope that all links here are on the list because there have been editors who have been pushing links matching the regexes in a way that was in violation of our policies and/or guidelines. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 14:02, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

A good many of them are unlogged for reasons. Perhaps the list should be copied, and unlogged/unapproved by community oversight entries removed, and then each can be re-examined in public? rootology (C)(T) 14:04, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

I am not sure what you mean with "are unlogged for reasons"?? --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 14:08, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

I do agree, by the way, it would be nice to have the 'old' list cleaned up, at least everything that was added before February 2008. I do not think that 'remove all and rediscuss' is a really good plan (as there are several which are still quite often a problem), but axing them down is certianly a plan. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 14:17, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Eric B. Hughes

Hello, thanks for your assitance in helping with the article on Mr. Hughes. However, I was trying to add new credits that he has worked on, and remove others that he is no longer attached too. I also tried to add an infobox which was removed. Could you please tell me how to properly add all these details without having them removed. Thanks kindly. Gusoo (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 20:02, 16 June 2009 (UTC).

If you think that the links comply with the policies and guidelines that XLinkBot cites in the post on your talkpage, then just undo the edit, the bot will not revert that. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 09:26, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Lostpedia

I don't think that adding external links to Lostpedia (http://lostpedia.wikia.com) in the "External links" section of a relevant article should be considered vandalism. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 20:50, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Hmm .. I take it that lostpedia.wikia.com is a stable wiki with a large number of contributors? --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 09:24, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Just to be clear, I would consider it spamming, not vandalism, indeed. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 09:24, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

I had a look, both external links to wikis that this user has been adding fail WP:EL (links to wikis, etc.). I have reverted all. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 09:31, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Not marked as a bot

This bot does not have bot rights [11] (Compare: [12]) FYI, please update its user rights accordingly. Rgrds. --Tombstone (talk) 03:45, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

The bot does not have a bot-flag for a reason, namely, so that it's contributions do show up in the Recent Changes list. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 09:25, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the response. I read through the bot approval, through the FAQ and through the bot policy and could not easily see where this is stated. What I did see in the bot policy was

"Historically, being flagged as a bot account was distinct from the approval process; not all approved bots had that property. This stemmed from the fact that all bot edits were hidden from recent changes, and that was not universally desirable. Now that bot edits can be allowed to show up on recent changes, this is no longer necessary."

so that seems to contradict your reason. I'm confused on this, honestly. I was hoping you could clarify this for me, because I specifically hide bot edits and am unable to do so with this bot. (BTW, I am not anti-bot and appreciate this bot's contributions, so please don't turn me into a newt or anything!) Rgrds. --Tombstone (talk) 11:57, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

In my opinion, the changes made by XLinkBot are too important to be hidden. It is not the kind of bot that makes routine changes to the format of an article. EdJohnston (talk) 13:27, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

Kolovai

Hi this is not a vandalism. please fix the bot.--CNekm (talk) 10:32, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Oh, forgot to answer. I tried, is a difficult thing to repair, but I hope it is better now. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 10:48, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

VESSL

hello, i recently published a page titled VESSL and it said that it is going to be deleted. i read most of the rules but i am pretty lost. any suggestions as to not have my page deleted would be much appreciated. is it possible for you to edit my page so its exceptable? —Preceding unsigned comment added by DecapodBryan (talk • contribs) 09:21, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

You're asking that to an automated account, but I would suggest you to write it in your userspace, e.g. as User:DecapodBryan/VESSL, and when you have it ready, to go to a suitable WikiProject and ask for a review. I hope this helps. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 09:42, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Post a link

Hello,

How can I post a link to an article?

Best,

Linde —Preceding unsigned comment added by Betsybard (talk • contribs) 13:08, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Hmm, you can just add it, though be aware of rules and guidelines concerning links. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 09:43, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Author Betty MacDonald

I tried to post a link to Betty MacDonald Fan Club because I got really excellent info from them incl. interviews of Betty MacDonald family. What is the reason that it didn't work. The Site is blogspot.com and it's an info site. --Betsybard (talk) 07:30, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Blogspots are generally not suitable (unreliable), neither are fan club pages. Please see the external links guideline. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 09:47, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Linking to Voltron on Hulu

Hi - I am Hulu's blog editor, and while reviewing the entry for Voltron, I noticed that you provide links to TV.com and IMDb. Since the first season of the series is available for US users for free, I tried to add an external link to the series on Hulu. TV.com does not offer episodes and I see that their site accepts advertising, so I was wondering if you'd reconsider allowing the Voltron entry to have an external link to hulu.com/voltron.

I have no nefarious plans with this suggestion; I just saw it as a service. All of Hulu's content is provided legally with permission from content owners.

Thanks, rebecca harper blog editor, hulu.com—Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.130.205.171 (talk • contribs)

See the external links guideline, and 'What Wikipedia is not'. You say "for US users for free" -> this is the English wikipedia, read around the world, and these video's would a) probably not add too much to the page, and b) would be inaccessible to a huge number of readers (on a world population, only a few live in the US). I hope this explains. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 09:32, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

how to create references.

hey, I need some help creating references to my Article "Fairfield Area School District." I don't know how to make my school's website one of the references I used. Can you help me?—Preceding unsigned comment added by Evilmaster23 (talk • contribs)

For references, see the citation guideline and the footnotes guideline. I hope this helps. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 09:32, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

pictures

How do you post pictures on a Wikipedia article?—Preceding unsigned comment added by Evilmaster23 (talk • contribs)

You'll have to upload them, see Wikipedia:Upload. I hope this helps. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 09:33, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Hello.

I don't recall ever putting a myspace link to a photo on my article.

I have 4 pictures related to the school district. I have 2 links two my article from the page of Fairfield PA. and my sources are two websites which give Fairfield Area School District Statistics.

Why exactly are you telling me things like I can't use those sources if I need them to have the article up and I have used them correctly. can you please respond to this for me?

EvilMaster23.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Evilmaster23 (talk • contribs)

Well, you linked to a myspace image. Images on MySpace are not reliable sources , and if they are for illustration, you need to upload the image. I hope this explains. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 09:36, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

that's what I'm saying, I don't recall doing that in my work.

perhaps, someone else who goes to the school saw it and added it, because they are students and think they should be on the page. I know, I did no such thing.

It is possible, you let the viewers edit it, which I think is a bad choice.

Well, you did it, see this diff, bottom green line is on the myspace.com domain. I hope this explains. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 10:45, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

look, my school's Wikipedia page isn't original research. the research I used was from the school's website. there is also some statistics about the school that I got from other websites, which they got from the school itself. I cited those as my references. If those aren't good enough, please tell me so now.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Evilmaster23 (talk • contribs)

Heh "...isn't original research. the research I used was from the school's website..." <- that is just what original research means, it is all from the schools website, which is not a proper source. Please find sources which are independent from the school.

one more request for you people. how can I make my article seen on a search engine?—Preceding unsigned comment added by Evilmaster23 (talk • contribs)

And now I really have to send you to read the spam guideline. Wikipedia is NOT the place to get visibility for your school. We are writing an encyclopedia here, not a web directory. Thanks. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 10:48, 29 June 2009 (UTC)