User talk:Valenciano/Archive 4

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Hi, thanks for commenting at the BLPN, considering your and other comments do you think anything decent could be written? Or perhaps AFD rationale? As it is now, uncited stub it is more of a liability than an asset. Off2riorob (talk) 10:49, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

Many thanks for having a good look at that Valenciano, respect. I have sent the article to AFD for discussion, regards. Off2riorob (talk) 11:30, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

The Sweeney

I am getting tired of that knob head, IP 86.x, and his IRA edits/reverts to The Sweeney. > Best O Fortuna (talk) 23:28, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

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Stoke on Trent

Hi, just to let you know I reverted your revert. At first glance I thought the IP was another vandal but then I checked out the reference and they were right, the quoted crime figures are per 1,000 population, not per 10,000. NtheP (talk) 12:38, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

No, they're wrong. The IP has changed it to read crime figures per 10,000 which is not what the reference says. I reverted it to read crime figures per 1,000 but you've reverted my change to say that it's crime figures per 10,000 which is not correct and I'm going to go and revert that to the correct figure. Valenciano (talk) 13:54, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

My mistake, for reading the diff not the curent revision. NtheP (talk) 17:56, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

No problem - you made an honest mistake and there's no harm done. Valenciano (talk) 22:11, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

DYK for History of chocolate in Spain

The DYK project (nominate) 18:03, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

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Photo requests

Do you do photo requests? The Air Nostrum head office is at Avda. Comarques del País Valenciá, 2. 46930 Quart de Poblet, Valencia - Would you mind photographing it and posting the picture on Wikipedia? This could be the building viewed from the air. Thanks WhisperToMe (talk) 04:00, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

I don't live in Valencia these days. May be back to visit family but I don't know when. I could ask them to make the photo (I've some that lives in Xirivella) but don't know when. Valenciano (talk) 22:27, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

La Vanguardia

google search: "gain control over council" 2 results "gain control over the council" 4430 results.--Jordiferrer (talk) 11:41, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

I'm afraid you've wasted your time with that search. I could instantly have told you that "gain control over council" is incorrect while "gain control over the council" is correct but that's not what you're reverting here. You're changing "gain control over Barcelona City council" to "gain control over the Barcelona City Council." This is not correct as Barcelona City Council is what is called a zero article situation in English.

Quote: "No article is needed for most places consisting of just the name of a person, or the name of a person/place followed by a noun examples Harrods, Macys, McDonald's, Lloyds Bank, St. Paul's Cathedral, Buckingham Palace, Kennedy Airport, Waterloo Station, Cambridge University, etc." Reference here. Barcelona City Council is exactly that: a place (Barcelona) followed by a noun (city council) and therefore it doesn't take the definite article. Valenciano (talk) 15:11, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the info, then! --Jordiferrer (talk) 21:24, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

DYK for 1980 Ispaster attack

Materialscientist (talk) 00:03, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

Multi-member seats

Hi - I quite agree with you. Where there are two or perhaps three representatives, it is possible to list them all - as, for example in Gordon Hewart's succession in Leicester. For more, it's not really practical to list them all, and it's inaccurate to pick out just one. I had a brief exchange with Padraig at User talk:Padraig#Thomas Moles about this three years ago, but I haven't seen any further developments. In case of a by-election, there's usually a clear succession, but it's uncommon for someone's service to both begin and end with a by-election. The method of using party names, as seen in the Dessie Ellis article, makes some sense, but then as the party was not previously represented, his predecessor should surely be "none", not a randomly chosen TD from another party. Warofdreams talk 15:34, 27 March 2011 (UTC)

Spanish local and regional elections, 2011

kudos on the nice edits, but can we get sourced?Lihaas (talk) 16:59, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

Won't be a problem. This official site is up, although the deadline for nominating candidates is around 18 April and thereafter will be published in national and local press. Valenciano (talk) 22:19, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

King Bong

Having looked at the band's website, http://www.submittosuggestion.com/fr_home.cfm, I didn't think that was an attack but a non-notable biography..... (It's worth a look - and looking closer now I've found the article was a copyvio into the bargain. Click on the pic of King Bong.) Better to tag as attack even if it turns out not to be than to miss one, though. If it comes back, check it against the site for copyvio... Peridon (talk) 10:13, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

It was the drug dealer and pimp bit that made me label it as an attack. Valenciano (talk) 10:17, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

In some quarters, those are compliments... 8-) Peridon (talk) 10:26, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

Haha, yeah. It did cross my mind that he styled himself that way but the article had as you said many problems, most of it gibberish, a copyvio and unsourced stuff calling someone a pimp ain't that encyclopedic. Valenciano (talk) 10:28, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

User:AlemanJoe

Well it's not a valid A7 simply because it's not in article space. It's probably nearer G10 but given that isn't the only purpose of the page I'm not sure it's a valid G10 either. Have deleted the offending text for now. Dpmuk (talk) 10:42, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

Hasan from Karabakh

You must be agree with my article.Because this areticle wrote on real facts and sources.THANK YOU WITH ATTENTION!:) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hasan from Karabakh (talk • contribs) 13:30, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

Re: help

No problem! There were just two minor things causing the problems - Elections to the Corts Valencianes, 2011 had ongoing=yes in the infobox, which hides the results fields, and the Valencia City Council elections had sup/ rather than /sup - I have no idea why it doesn't work either way, but it's fixed the issue! I've also moved the Brian Wilson article - thanks for alerting me to this; it did need an admin to do this as the move involved deleting a page. Good work on the Spanish election results, by the way! Warofdreams talk 10:07, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

Speedy deletion converted to PROD: The element encyclopedia of 20000 dreams

Hello Valenciano. I am just letting you know that I have converted the speedy deletion tag that you placed on The element encyclopedia of 20000 dreams to a proposed deletion tag, because I do not believe CSD applies to the page in question - WP:CSD#A7 does not apply to books. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 19:08, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

DYK for 1987 Zaragoza Barracks bombing

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Altered speedy deletion rationale: Nanko

Hello Valenciano. I am just letting you know that I deleted Nanko, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, under a different criterion from the one you provided, which doesn't fit the page in question. Thank you. —DoRD (talk) 22:44, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

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Thanks, didn't know that. Valenciano (talk) 22:49, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Thank you

Hi I'm the guy who made a bit of a mess on the Pete Howson page, I just wanted to thank you for cleaning it up. I use to be able to do refernces but I think I'll need a bit more careful observation before trying it again !!! :] RS 9/7/2011 86.165.18.172 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 10:46, 9 July 2011 (UTC).

Don't worry about it, I made exactly the same mistakes in the past and it's often not obvious. You can read Wikipedia:Referencing for beginners which should tell you all you need. Valenciano (talk) 10:55, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

Hegewisch

Yeah, I'll take care of that. The Times had a fantastic map that shows areas by census tract. http://projects.nytimes.com/census/2010/map Hegewisch is Census Tract 5501 and part of 5502. I think it actually breaks down to being 45% Caucasian now. I'll edit the infobox. FactsAndHonesty (talk) 07:46, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

ELL

Hi there, sorry about this, I hope I'm not going bonkers am I? If so, do please feel free hit me with a fish, or whatevertheh*ll. Cheers DBaK (talk) 21:37, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

Oh thank you! I sort of went Confident Revert followed rapidly by Sinking Feeling ... thanks and best wishes DBaK (talk) 23:40, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

Match numbers

I hope you will see that if we use the team names, they do not always fit in the space provided. Using match numbers is far tidier and follows the custom UEFA used for the 2nd qualifying round draw. I don't know why they didn't number the matches for the 3rd qualifying round draw, but that is beside the point. – PeeJay 00:22, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

Canvas

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Dave Kaptain

Thanks for the insights on the Dave Kaptain deletion discussion. I gave my opinion on triviality while you gave yours on significant coverage. The points of view from both the far sides of the continuum are certainly worthy of discussion. It's just that I choose the middle ground. PolicarpioM (talk) 09:11, 2 November 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the messge. I think overall here there are problems with WP:POLITICIAN and WP:BIAS. It's clear to me from the former that Mayors are not notable in their own right and therefore coverage of Mayors in their local papers going about their everyday duties is also not notable. The problem is that WP:POLITICIAN is not sufficiently clear cut on that and therefore such deletion debates generally have inconsistent outcomes depending on who shows up on the day. Generally Mayors of US cities tend to get kept while Mayors of cities in other countries are less likely to survive. I personally feel it would be better to have general articles in cases like this on the local government in the place in question which would cover the Mayor in context rather than having articles on Mayors-of-whichever-place-has-enough-people-with-free-time-and-internet-access-to-edit-here. In this case I think it's fairly ridiculous that a Mayor of a Chicago suburb of 107k gets an article when in the past Mayors of cities of 350k plus have gone. There is an inconsistency here that needs addressing. Valenciano (talk) 23:49, 8 November 2011 (UTC)

If I may chime in here, I agree with Valenciano. Mayors are "local elected officials" under WP:POLITICIAN, and as such they are not granted automatic inclusion; they need to have at least some significant sourcing to show notability. It sounds like Policarpio agrees. (I'm not trying to put words in your mouth, but you based your "keep" !vote on the existence of coverage that you found to be significant, which implies that significant coverage makes the difference for you.) But not everyone at the discussion made that thoughtful an argument. Several seemed to simply say "he's the mayor so of course he's notable." As I have followed AfD discussions over the past few years, I have seen more and more of this kind of thinking. IMO it is not so much due to bias as to laziness. People want to be able to rubber stamp it and move on, without doing any research. At the Dave Kaptain discussion somebody actually stated, as if it was policy, that mayors of cities greater than 100,000 are notable - and another person seemed to echo that sentiment. And yet there is no such policy and no such consensus. If you want to start a discussion of this issue at WP:POLITICIAN, let me know and I will weigh in. --MelanieN (talk) 16:05, 9 November 2011 (UTC)

I think Valenciano's concerns are valid and reasonable as stated above. I'll support Valenciano and MelanieN on these issues at WP:POLITICIAN and hopefully, in future AfDs regarding mayors. We need to find a common ground though on what is routine news coverage on politicians. PolicarpioM (talk) 06:25, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

Party vote share by electoral district tables in Spain election articles

I've reverted the changes I did to the party vote share boxes regarding the templates, so the sort function will work now as intended. Instead, I've added some self-made maps showing the percentage of the popular vote that each party won in the different provinces, to be vore visually appealing to the eye. Since it also shows those provinces that were won with absolute majority, the sort function now is much more effective for those who want to contrast the data with the map. Impru20 (talk) 21:20, 18 December 2011 (UTC)

Great work. My only problem with the changes you made to the table was on sorting grounds. But if you can find a way to make it more visually appealing but still sortable, that would be good. Valenciano (talk) 13:58, 19 December 2011 (UTC)

Did it. Just colored the percentage differences either green or red, depending whether they increase or decrease, respectively. The result is more visually appealing (it's much easier to difference between the decreasing percentages and the increasing ones) while also retaining the sort function. Simple, but effective. For now I've done just those in the 2011 article, but I'm moving on to do the same in the 2008 one.

By the way, the party vote share per province concept gave me the idea of also adding the seats each party won in each province, which has been done through a simple graphic, which includes all parties. Again, I just did it for 2011. However, I will work on a 2008 graphic once I'm done with the party vote share boxes. Regards. Impru20 (talk) 17:40, 19 December 2011 (UTC)

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