User talk:Toyracerx

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Asafa Powell

Hi there! Just want to say: Good work on the expanding the article. However, try not to get too bogged down with meet results. As the season progresses try to trim down the 2009 section to only the most relevant events (his new 400 m PB should be included anyway). Take care and happy editing! Sillyfolkboy (talk) 00:55, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I've done a whole bunch of formatting edits to the article, including writing a new lead and adding the infobox. I'm going to update the competition record info into the normal wikitable shortly. Take care. Sillyfolkboy (talk) 16:52, 5 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sillyfolkboy, I am getting your messages but have no idea how to reply. Toyracerx (talk) 19:58, 5 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Feel free to reply here, or click on my talk page and start a new section, or leave a message at talk: Asafa Powell. If, on the other hand, you mean you have "no idea how to reply" because I'm just leaving little alerts/updates rather than any real conversational pieces then don't worry! If you've any complaints or suggestions etc you can leave me a message at any of those three places. Cheers. Sillyfolkboy (talk) 00:36, 6 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Michael Frater

It isn't really good enough for a source but this bio may help you find more information to expand the Michael Frater article. Happy editing! Sillyfolkboy (talk) 21:30, 17 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, I have that page bookmarked for reference.

Good stuff. Also, one of the refs used from the Gleaner has much more to give than is currently used in the article. Simple use the ref name function to cite back to the same source. E.g.

First time: <ref name=Gleaner1>[http://www.jamaica-gleaner.com/gleaner/20060226/out/out1.html Michael Frater - Training for greatness]. ''[[Jamaica Gleaner]]'' (2006-02-26). Retrieved on 2009-03-17.</ref>
Following times: <ref name=Gleaner1/>

Happy editing! Sillyfolkboy (talk) 21:30, 17 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks again. I noted that about the Gleaner article, but wanted to double check some facts first. For example, that article has his D.O.B. incorrect. And, much thanks for the tip on citing one article multiple times. I didn't know how to do that before. Toyracerx (talk) 14:23, 27 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Barnstar

		The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
		For your many contributions to Asafa Powell, Michael Frater, and others I award you this Barnstar. Keep up the good work! ThaddeusB (talk) 19:46, 17 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Injured

Looks like a while yet before Asafa is back to full fitness! If Gay and Powell remain out of action then Bolt could walk the World's this year... Sillyfolkboy (talk) (edits) 20:08, 26 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, unfortunately the ankle injury seems to be serious. I hope to get a better understanding of the extent of the injury when he comes back to Jamaica. Gay is actually back in competition, he ran a new personal best in the 400 m this weekend (a low 46) so lets hope he is fit for Berlin. A plus for him is that he does not need to qualify for the World's (defending 100 and 200 champion), all he has to do to make the USA team is to participate in one round at Trials. Toyracerx (talk) 14:21, 27 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject Athletics

Given that many of the athletics article didn't come under any specific project I have proposed WikiProject Athletics! I'm sure that all the articles you have been working on will benefit from more input, and I'm sure you'll find some other interesting articles to improve along the way! Cheers. Sillyfolkboy (talk) (edits)^{WIKIPROJECT ATHLETICS NEEDS YOU!} 11:48, 16 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the heads up and for the invitation, I have joined the project. Toyracerx (talk) 15:51, 18 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Cheers! I fleshed out a full length lead for Ray Stewart and did some minor clean up. And just a heads up, in the 1984 section of Ray Stewart you've said that there was a controversial 100 m final. I believe you intended to put this in the 1988 section instead. Also, I assume you meant the 4 x 100 metres in 1987, no?

Also, would you be interested in creating List of Jamaican records in athletics? You could use the tables on the British one as a template to copy-paste into. The official sources from the JAAA can be found here and you can check them against this more in-depth list. I think that second link will have plenty of information you'd be interested in anyway! If, on the other hand, making lists isn't your kind of thing then let me know and I'll make it myself. Take care! Sillyfolkboy (talk) (edits)^{WIKIPROJECT ATHLETICS NEEDS YOU!} 15:59, 19 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

1. Thanks for the full length lead for Stewart, I appreciate all assistance.
2. I didn't put the "controversial" wording in the article, it was there before I started expanding it. I have been searching for evidence of it so that I can make a reference, but have not yet found one, but am leaving it there until I can confirm or deny a controversy. I have found that there was a false start in that race, but no further details, yet.
3. I can look into creating the list page, however I was just about to venture into making my first page, on Donovan Powell, Asafa's older brother. I've been doing some research for a few days and believe I have enough for at least a semi-decent stub. Do you have any advice for me? Toyracerx (talk) 18:24, 19 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The "controversial" wording is surely meant to refer to the 1988 final. If you click the link then all shall become clear. I'd noticed the work you've been putting into the Stewart article but I didn't realise how important he was until I compiled the summary! Impressive indeed.
In terms of creating a new article: It's good to have a bit of a template to work from, so maybe just copying Lindel Frater's bio and cutting out the main content and infobox data is a good idea. I generally do this myself to speed up the creation process and it helps with putting in the right infobox data and finding appropriate categories (in addition to having a pre-made personal bests box to write in). Just make sure you remove all Lindel's info first, I've made mistakes like that before!
Judging from the IAAF bio Donovan Powell is definitely worthy of an article. There's some youth and present day info here and here if you didn't find those already. One problem I'm seeing is that there are conflicting accounts of whether Vaughn or Donovan Powell died.[1][2][3]. I think that, reporting the words of Asafa himself, this Guardian article is the source to use and should help with extra info too. I will be able to help with writing an editorial note to state that conflicting sources exist, but it is certainly Vaughn who died. There should be plenty of family/personal life cross-over information from Asafa articles and interviews.
If you're having any trouble with pesky infoboxes and tables, or anything really, just leave me a note at my talk page. I'll keep an eye out for the article too. Sillyfolkboy (talk) (edits)^{WIKIPROJECT ATHLETICS NEEDS YOU!} 21:20, 19 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the advice of using an existing article as a template, I did exactly that before reading your advice, and in fact I did use the Lindel Frater article. And yes, I made sure to remove all of the Frater info before posting.
Vaughn is definitely the brother that died, Donovan is alive and gave a lecture not too long ago, which I will mention in the article after I finish compiling his career info. I've tried to be very careful with including information that is contradicted by other articles, as I came across a few examples of this when editing the articles for both Frater brothers.
I am leaving the reference to the "controversial" final as it is for the time being while I investigate the 84 final. As I mentioned before there was at least one false start in that final and I am attempting to track down more information. While very notable, the 88 final in itself was not controversial until days after the race itself, and there is a lot that can be added to its info page. Perhaps a project to put on my "to do " list.
Thanks again for all of your assistance, and I will drop you a note when I am finished with the Donovan Powell article, as you write excellent leads!

Asafa GA nomination

What do you make of this? Please see the discussion here for more info. Sillyfolkboy (talk) (edits)^{WIKIPROJECT ATHLETICS NEEDS YOU!} 17:43, 20 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I have no idea of the criteria for any nomination, being quite a "neewbie". It appears from the discussion that something referred to as "full citations" is needed for the Asafa article, is there a guideline that I can follow in order to assist the process? Toyracerx (talk) 18:24, 20 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Raymond Stewart

I've added in "officially" to show the distinction between this and Quarrie's 9.9 second run. While I wish to take nothing away from Quarrie's et al's achievements, we must accept that hand timed runs simply aren't accurate enough to define with precisiona sub-10 run. It does seem strange that the electronically timed personal best of Steve Williams (a man who supposedly ran under ten seconds four times) is 10.07![4] I'll try and dig up some good references if I can for Stewart. Cheers. Sillyfolkboy (talk) (edits)^{WIKIPROJECT ATHLETICS NEEDS YOU!} 00:47, 19 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

re: hand timing. I agree 100%, and we need to look no further than Donovan Powell for a perfect example: 9.7 hand timed. Of course, the difference is that Quarrie's run was ratified by the IAAF and he was recognized as co-holder of the WR. Still, in the interest of accuracy and full disclosure I felt it important to note Quarrie's 9.9 in the Stewart article, and the word "officially" might not be enough, because as I noted Quarrie's 9.9 was official as well. Regards. Toyracerx (talk) 12:35, 19 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I couldn't agree more! Sillyfolkboy (talk) (edits)^{WIKIPROJECT ATHLETICS NEEDS YOU!} 02:10, 20 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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