User talk:Timtrent

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About vandalism in page

Hi @User:Timtrent! Can you please help me about article: Mostofa Sarwar Farooki? An individual is defacing the page without citing credible sources. Assistance is needed. MD. Sazid Bin Sahid (talk) 17:20, 11 November 2024 (UTC)

@MD. Sazid Bin Sahid I see a content dispute rather than vandalism. A content dispute is where you and one or more other editors disagree about what the article should say. Vandalism is deliberately defacing an article.

Am I correct in my initial assessment?

If I am, then this needs to be sorted out first on the article's talk page, and, if that fails, at WP:DRN

If it is vandalism, true vandalism, then you may warn the vandal. 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 17:25, 11 November 2024 (UTC)

I want to clarify the context with Mostofa Sarwar Farooki. He is one of three newly elected advisers of interim Government of Bangladesh. Some people are not happy with the incedent, and that's why they are trying to attack him at Wikipedia page. What should I or u do? MD. Sazid Bin Sahid (talk) 17:31, 11 November 2024 (UTC)

@MD. Sazid Bin Sahid I cannot read the language being added, I'm afraid, so I am unable to determine whether it is a content dispute or vandalism. You could file a request at WP:RPP. There is a mechanism at the top of that page. Please bear in mind that these things pass by themselves, usually. But a request for protection is never wasted. 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 17:35, 11 November 2024 (UTC)

@MD. Sazid Bin Sahid Another editor has made the request. 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 17:55, 11 November 2024 (UTC)

@Timtrent since you're a seasoned senior editor, could you please handle this? (I think that vandal has been blocked, but he's now trying with unregistered account!) MD. Sazid Bin Sahid (talk) 18:09, 11 November 2024 (UTC)

@MD. Sazid Bin Sahid I am not an administrator, so I can do nothing myself. Don't become alarmed over vandalism. It always gets sorted out. Sometimes we feel it to be an emergency, but it truly never is, even if the vandalism is offensive. There is genuinely no rush. 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 18:13, 11 November 2024 (UTC)

@Timtrent Oh, sure! Thanks. MD. Sazid Bin Sahid (talk) 18:15, 11 November 2024 (UTC)

@MD. Sazid Bin Sahid It was protected almost an hour ago. Now only experienced editors can edit it. Those with a different editing track record cannot. You may be able to edit or may be unable to edit, but the major problem is solved.

Now you need to rely on calm heads to correct any errors in the article. Yours may be one of them.

This is not a new issue for Wikipedia. Things blow ups and appear alarming, but, once the article is protected the issue can be solved. And there is never a race. never a need to rush. 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 19:00, 11 November 2024 (UTC)

I respectfully disagree with the statement that there is never a race. There are edit conflicts, and an edit conflict is a race condition, and there are a few other types of race conditions in Wikipedia that are similar to but not the same as edit conflicts. It is a good idea to avoid getting into a race. Robert McClenon (talk) 20:26, 13 November 2024 (UTC)

@Robert McClenon Great technical answer, but I think you know what I mean. Getting overheated about vandalism just creates stress. We can revert to any version at any time 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 20:29, 13 November 2024 (UTC)

Yes. You are saying not to panic about vandalism, because it can always be reverted in time, and there is no deadline for reverting vandalism. In fact, I can easily think of a situation in which panicking about vandalism may be counter-productive due to the silly idea that there is a race. That is if two enthusiastic anti-vandal editors look at the same article that has been vandalized, and one of them reverts it, and the other one is edit-conflicted momentarily. The second editor notices a new edit, and thinks it is more vandalism, and reverts it. The two editors may get into an edit-war trying to revert the vandalism. Then an admin comes along and partially blocks all three editors for 31 hours, the vandal and the anti-vandals, while they figure out what the original version was. The anti-vandals now have a 31-hour partial block on their record, because they were edit-warring to try to revert vandalism, but were doing it recklessly. That is a good reason not to be in too much of a hurry to revert vandalism. Robert McClenon (talk) 01:11, 14 November 2024 (UTC)

Reference Bombing

But one of the purposes of reference bombing is to make it difficult to complete a source analysis table, and for that purpose, the more, the better.

I would have replied to you earlier about your note on the admin election, but I was more thinking of another election (in which 80 million people made a tragic mistake). Robert McClenon (talk) 20:22, 13 November 2024 (UTC)

The outcome of that latter election is alarming.

This Advent, in three weeks, I plan to read the prophetic books again. A characteristic of most of the prophetic books is that times are bad, and are going to get worse, and then get better. Robert McClenon (talk) 20:37, 13 November 2024 (UTC)

@Robert McClenon I do not follow any religion, nor do I have a deity. I hope these books allow you the comfort you hope for. 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 20:46, 13 November 2024 (UTC)

I think that any view of history that is fundamentally dependent on one's religious beliefs is probably a dangerous delusion. I am in particular thinking of literal end-times concepts, which are, unfortunately, more common on the west side of the Atlantic than the east side. What is useful is a long perspective on history, which has been going on for at least six thousand years (with tens of thousands of years of prehistory) and will go on for thousands of years more, and things have always gotten worse for a while and gotten better for a while. Things got worse 2700 and 2600 years ago, when these books were written, and there were good times again, and things get worse, and they get better. That hasn't changed since ancient times. Robert McClenon (talk) 01:22, 14 November 2024 (UTC)

I suspect it all comes down to people lusting for power. Eventually we learn a brief lesson. Then it happens again, Robert. It gets worse because the power lusters somehow get more popular. 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 07:59, 14 November 2024 (UTC)

You are wholly correct, which is why I push refbombing and citekill back 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 20:27, 13 November 2024 (UTC)

@Robert McClenon Thank you for the reply. I forgot to say. I meant every word in my short note. You have and display all that is required and more.

It is not a role I would relish. It changes things. 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 20:32, 13 November 2024 (UTC)

About file I've uploaded

Please can you check if the file I uploaded is now usable? The file: File:Cumilla_Victoria_Government_College_logo.png File:Cumilla_Victoria_Government_College_logo.png. Please let me know if I have done something wrong or not gave credit required. MD. Sazid Bin Sahid (talk) 12:57, 14 November 2024 (UTC)

@MD. Sazid Bin Sahid Almost. I have tagged it wil {{Non-free reduce}}. Fair Use relies on minimum necessary sizing. You cam ensmallen the image to the size it woudl appear on a letter and re-upload it 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 13:05, 14 November 2024 (UTC)

Or just wait, as the notice says. Either is fine. 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 13:06, 14 November 2024 (UTC)

@Timtrent, Does this mean I don't need to be concerned, and the bot will lower the image resolution? Or is there something I need to do? MD. Sazid Bin Sahid (talk) 14:00, 14 November 2024 (UTC)

@MD. Sazid Bin Sahid watch, wait, and if a bot does not do something in a day or two, then reduce the size by uploading a new, small version 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 14:01, 14 November 2024 (UTC)

@Timtrent, What are the criteria for updating the image? Can I edit the existing image or should I add a new one? If so, what size should the new image be? MD. Sazid Bin Sahid (talk) 14:03, 14 November 2024 (UTC)

@MD. Sazid Bin Sahid the image shoudl be about the size of a postage stamp, and you can upload over the top of this one. There is a tiny link under the file history box "Upload a new version of this file" whcih I imagine does the job. I've never used it.

I did make one small change. I added "|image has rationale=ye" to the licence template, because it has a non free use rationale. The history tab will show that to you. 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 14:07, 14 November 2024 (UTC)

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Why? 2601:300:477F:5910:501D:CB90:582A:5678 (talk) 22:27, 14 November 2024 (UTC)

Where? 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 22:29, 14 November 2024 (UTC)

Might need some assistance per the article about Patrick Amofah

can you help me with making refined for submission and to meet standards on here Beezy Gh (talk) 01:32, 15 November 2024 (UTC)

@Beezy Gh It is not a topic which is of interest to me, I'm afraid. 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 08:48, 15 November 2024 (UTC)

Merging articles.

Hi, can you please help me by merging Dhaka Export Processing Zone with ঢাকা রপ্তানি প্রক্রিয়াকরণ অঞ্চল which is in Bangla Wikipedia? I mean, if someone clicks on language, if they are in English, they can see Bangla; if they are in Bengali Wikipedia, they can see it in English by swapping language. MD. Sazid Bin Sahid (talk) 09:57, 15 November 2024 (UTC)

 Done @MD. Sazid Bin Sahid 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 10:21, 15 November 2024 (UTC)

Thank you so much. MD. Sazid Bin Sahid (talk) 10:27, 15 November 2024 (UTC)

@MD. Sazid Bin Sahid It is surprisingly easy to do. wikidata:Q13058119 shows you the location where the link takes place. However, not all articles have Wikidata items yet. The best way for a novice is to click the "Languages" item in the left hand menu and follow the process. You need to know the language code for the other language Wikipedia, though. 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 10:33, 15 November 2024 (UTC)

Hey.

FYI -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 10:52, 15 November 2024 (UTC)

@Deepfriedokra John Milton Sonnet 19: When I Consider How My Light is Spent, a pleasing sonnet with an apposite final line. 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 12:17, 15 November 2024 (UTC)

too true -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 14:01, 15 November 2024 (UTC)

Review my page!

Please review page Draft:Ishwardi Export Processing Zone. It was drafted because I didn't provide any citations. Now I've provided some references. Plz review the page, and help me publish it. Also merge it with the Bangla page ঈশ্বরদী রপ্তানি প্রক্রিয়াকরণ অঞ্চল MD. Sazid Bin Sahid (talk) 11:37, 15 November 2024 (UTC)

@MD. Sazid Bin Sahid I would prefer that another reviewer handles the reviewing, please. When accepted I a happy to join it to the other article, if you tell me when it is a accepted. 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 12:19, 15 November 2024 (UTC)

Request for clarification on feedback

Hello Timtrent, Thank you for taking the time to review my submission. I’m new to contributing to Wikipedia and am eager to improve. I noticed your comment about my submission not resembling articles, and I would love more specific guidance on what I can do to bring it up to standard. Could you clarify whether the issue is with formatting, tone, or references? Thank you again for your patience. Dr. Blossom A. Burton (talk) 19:45, 15 November 2024 (UTC)

@Dr. Blossom A. Burton Please just look at it. Does it resemble a live article? There is an expectation that people will learn how before leaping in and doing. 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 20:33, 15 November 2024 (UTC)

your comments relating to “Tailings stratification and mineralogy”

Thanks for your comments about the Sandbox entry “http://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/Draft:Tailings_stratification_and_mineralogy”. We now included it in http://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/Tailings_dam as recommended by you. Would be great if you would either review it or find someone who could do it. It is a student’s work, which I extensively edited already, but you might have more experience in making it Wikipedian. Thanks in advance C.wolke (talk) 12:20, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

@C.wolke If it is now in the main space article it has the full scrutiny of all who watch the page. There is no review needed. Thank you for performing the merge. 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 12:42, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

@C.wolke I've tidied up by redirecting the draft to the article. You may not have known how to do that 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 12:50, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

I didn’t want to do it so not to interfer with your work. Thanks! C.wolke (talk) 12:55, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

@C.wolke Never worry about things like that. Even if you make a huge mistake in good faith it can always be rectified. 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 13:00, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

AFC Review

Hello! I am inclined to accept this draft seeing they are a professor and they got some awards, however I see there are a lots of issues in this article too. This is why I am seeking a second opinion before making a decision. Kindly check it out and let me know your view Tesleemah (talk) 20:46, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

@Tesleemah With academics I look primarily at the quality of their professorship. The UK rarely has named chairs for professors, so I use judgement. In this case I agree with yours. The article certainly stands a better than 50% chance of surviving an immediate deletion request. Accept at your leisure! Or fast! Or at medium speed.

After acceptance I check for orphan-ness, and also tend to ask for improvement of the categories 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 20:50, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

Alright, Thank you for your view Tesleemah (talk) 20:52, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

@Tesleemah I try very hard, even if a draft is borderline, to accept it. I mean any draft. It's a useful discipline to acquire, sometimes hard to do. 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 20:55, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

I agree so far they meet the notability guide, minor improvement can still be done. I don't want to be in haste earlier and this is why I seek a second opinion. I'm glad you caught that early! Tesleemah (talk) 20:58, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

Carmarthen Bay Ferries article

Hi TimTrent, Draft Page Thanks for your assistance recently, it is appreciated. I have made changes as below:

• Removed links to external sites within the main body of the article and used them as references/citations at the base of the page.

• I have added organisational structure, stating that directors and not in receipt of payment.

You had mentioned a potential copyright issue using the company logo on the article, when the company was created the chair registered it as a trademark, please could you guide me as to what I need to do in order that the logo is acceptable in the article.

I rather hope that this is an improvement from the first submission, but as always any further comment on the likelyhood of the page being accepted would be excellent!

Thanks in advance,

Pancakefarm.

Pancakefarm (talk) 15:42, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

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