User talk:ThymeCypher

Clarification

For the sake of clarity, the warning you were issued was not a "stance" within the dispute you were involved in. I am not involved in the dispute, I merely involved the alleged infractions which were reported to us. Additionally, I do not represent Wikipedia, I am an admin appointed by the community to enforce the community's objective behavioral standards. You were name-calling as well as making accusations without evidence, both of which are prohibited behaviors, but usually minor offenses. However, in the American politics topic area (among others), the rules are much stricter, because, as you can imagine, the area is prone to lots of disruption and it's tolerated less. This is not a matter of where "Wikipedia stands". I don't even know what that means. This is a matter of you waltzing into a contentious topic area in which there are strict behavioral rules and then begin slinging insults and personal attacks and hysterical accusations. I'm sorry you feel wronged that you received a warning for this and you can quit the project forever if you want, but that's not what I'm asking. I'm merely asking that you stop making personal commentary, because it's prohibited on Wikipedia. Yes, if you can't do that, you're gonna get banned, but that's a matter for your own emotional maturity and self-control, it's not on me, and it's not on Wikipedia. I would like you to stick around and actually contribute to our project, and learn and grow from mistakes. However if you cannot do so without attacking others, or if you're not actually here to do so, then don't bother. ~Swarm~ ^{sting} 19:17, 30 July 2020 (UTC)

About that "alert" template you received..... It's not a "warning" but a no-fault/no-shame FYI alert letting you know special rules apply. Nothing more, nothing less. See Discretionary_sanctions#Alerts. Before 2013 or so those things were weaponized warnings. WE had a year long discussion and now they are NOT warning templates. They are explicitly FYI templates. Anyone can give the discretionary sanctions template to anyone else working in a subject area, for any reason, regardless of edit content. So if it surprised you and stung, that's a common first reaction if people don't know what its all about, but consider......... they are so FYI-ish that I regularly give them to myself, all the time. My personal view, which is not universally held, is that the no fault DS alert works best when everyone in a relevant subject area has one. That way no one has to feel like they got "tagged" and someone else didn't. NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 09:06, 31 July 2020 (UTC)