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Compressed /ər/ in "Niagara"

Was this you? If so, can you stop with the cheap edit-warring? That was pretty transparent. Sol505000 (talk) 09:42, 12 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

No it wasn't. If you looked you would see that IP is Californian.  Nixinova T  C   19:41, 12 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Ever heard of VPN's? I'm not gonna argue, tho. Sol505000 (talk) 21:01, 12 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

March 2022

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What? I didn't break 3rr.  Nixinova T  C   03:36, 9 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Indeed. My sincerest apologies. I kept track of the various reverts on a piece of paper and one of them that I recorded against your user name wasn't by you. My error. Please forgive me. I should have been more careful. I've unblocked you. You may trout me. Schwede66 03:41, 9 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
No worries  Nixinova T  C   03:56, 9 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

"Wikipedia:Minerva" listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has identified a potential problem with the redirect Wikipedia:Minerva and has thus listed it for discussion. This discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 March 31#Wikipedia:Monobook until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. ---CX Zoom(he/him) (let's talk|contribs) 12:56, 31 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

What is etymology?

Hello. I am contacting you because of a discussion about etymology on another website, Final Fantasy Fandom. That wiki gives a definition of etymology, followed by a link to Wikipedia etymology page (their page here), and then features 2700 etymologies (list here), almost all of them being similar to these three:

  • Etymology of absolute zero: Absolute zero is the coldest possible temperature. More formally, it is the temperature at which entropy reaches its minimum value.
  • Etymology of fire: Fire is the rapid oxidation of a material in the exothermic chemical process of combustion, releasing heat, light, and various reaction products.
  • Etymology of Shiva: Shiva (also spelled Śiva) is a Hindu god. The Hindu Shiva once saved the world by consuming poison, giving him blue skin around the area of the neck and throat. [etc. etc.]

Are these three examples etymologies, or not? Since you are a gamer and an active member of Wikipedia Linguistics Project, your opinion could solve the discussion (if you prefer to avoid any involvement, just write it, I will understand). Thank you in advance for your time and attention. --Abacos (talk) 19:52, 27 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Abacos: The first two are less etymologies in a linguistic sense and more explanatory descriptions; they read more like the opening sentence to a wiki page instead of a dictionary. A linguistic etymology would be just Shiva: a deity, from Sanskrit शिव śivá, meaning 'the prosperous one', explaining the word instead of the concept. But in practice here you're not really wanting a strict etymology but a general explanation of what the term is IRL and why the game uses it, I'd think, so what you have works.  Nixinova T  C   20:56, 27 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your kind answer. For your information, my position in the debate is that FF-etymologies should be renamed, e.g. "Real-world references", while the Final Fantasy Fandom states that etymology means "detailing the origins of terminology used in the series in regards to real world culture and history". --Abacos (talk) 10:19, 28 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

"Java Edition" listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has identified a potential problem with the redirect Java Edition and has thus listed it for discussion. This discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 June 10#Java Edition until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. (talk) 16:12, 10 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Advice about clarification

Hi, you have asked to clarify this sentence: "Māori has undergone several notable sound changes during the last 200 years, most likely under the influence of [[New Zealand English]] phonetic system: <...> {{IPA|/əʊ/}} and {{IPA|/oʊ/}} merged."

The source says: "Equally plausibly due to contact with English is the merger of original /au/ and /ou/ ([əυ] and [oυ]), so that for instance pau ‘exhausted, used up’ and pou ‘post’ are now homophones for many speakers. Both sounds occur in New Zealand English but only as allophones, the second occurring before /l/."

Could you please advise me about a good way to provide a clarification in the article? Le Loy 02:50, 13 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for looking at the source. The article seems to have listed those English phones instead of the Māori phonemes. I have clarified the text in the article.  Nixinova T  C   02:56, 13 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I wrote the article from this source so that was easy :) Thanks. Le Loy 04:53, 13 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, you recently reverted my edit on monophthong "eu" in Indonesian language and your edit summary is just "rv - that doesnt make any sense".

Even though I have put reference on the addition of monophthong "eu". It is explicitly stated on Chapter I (BAB I) Point D.1 in page 6, which state Monoftong dalam bahasa Indonesia dilambangkan dengan gabungan huruf vokal eu yang dilafalkan [ɘ] (In case if you don't speak Indonesian, it means "Monophthongs in Indonesian language are denoted by combination vowel eu pronounced [ɘ]").

So, I don't understand which part of it that doesn't make any sense. Ckfasdf (talk) 12:44, 24 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

My confusion came from your use of slashes – writing as /ɘ/ means that it is a phonemic vowel, which it is clearly not as Indonesian does not have that vowel. What I think that means is that the phonemic sequence /eu/ has the realised pronunciation of [ɘ] – note the // vs []. That is, the spelling 'eu' is pronounced as [ɘ] but that doesn't make [ɘ] its own phoneme.
If that information is re-added it should go in the diphthong section, and just say something like The sequence /eu/ has the monophthingal realisation [ɘ]..  Nixinova T  C   21:00, 24 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Now, I am confused... What do you mean that Indonesian don't have that vowel? Since Indonesia do have that vowel as referenced referenced here.
And if "eu" was re-added it should be list as monophthong as it is bases on this reference. Ckfasdf (talk) 22:35, 24 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Might you be confusing ə for ɘ ?  Nixinova T  C   23:03, 24 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
But that's what the reference said, not my word. Anyway, I have sent inquiry to Language Development and Fostering Agency whether they are confusing ə for ɘ. Ckfasdf (talk) 01:25, 26 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Ckfasdf: The history of Indonesian language has brought me here. Just to clarify: there is no doubt that the Badan Bahasa does not confuse ⟨ə⟩ with ⟨ɘ⟩. The latter is a marginal vowel in Indonesian that appears in unassimilated loans from Acehnese and Sundanese. The grapheme is "eu", and it is more commonly transcribed as ⟨ɨ⟩. It's the only monophthong for which the Badan Bahasa proscribes the use of a digraph. It is another question, however, whether this vowel is really part of the inventory of standard Indonesian. The same also holds for the difference between mid and open-mid vowels (I know legions of educated speakers who do not make this Javanese-influenced distinction), but this is something to discuss in Talk:Indonesian language. –Austronesier (talk) 17:37, 3 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Austronesier: OK, I have opened the discussion in Talk:Indonesian language. Ckfasdf (talk) 03:03, 4 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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