User talk:Nicholas20177

April 2017

Hello, I'm KoshVorlon. An edit that you recently made to Linda McMahon seemed to be a test and has been removed. If you want more practice editing, please use the sandbox. If you think a mistake was made, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks!
Heads up , a name ending in "MC" anything is an Irish surname, not an English one. Ҝ Ø Ƽ Ħ 15:04, 26 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

KoshVorlon, Linda McMahon's surname is taken from her husband Vince McMahon who is indeed Irish. Her birth surname was Edwards which is English so you need to do you research before you go deleting valid Wikipedia entries!

Err, no. McAything is a Scottish surname, like in James McFadden or Ewan McGregor. The Irish equivalent is O'Anything, like in Brendan O'Carroll.T v x1 23:11, 26 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Er NO! it's people like YOU who give WP a bad rep. FYO:

Last name: McMahon. This noble and distinguished Irish surname is an Anglicized form of the Old Gaelic "Mac Mathghamha", meaning "son of the Bear". ... Their territory was Corcabaskin in West Clare where the name is still most numerous.

Reply

I saw your question, I removed your entry for two reasons, you wrote it as "McMahon is of English descent", I realize you were speaking of Linda McMahon, however, the sentance sounded like you were referring to the last name itself. Second, you don't have a reliable source to support your edit, Wikipedia needs reliable sources for anything placed in an article, especially where living people are concerned.

I also wanted to touch on the "do some research" comment you made, anytime anyone posts anything on Wikipedia the responsibility for sourcing it falls to the one who posted it, not the one that's challenging it, so it's really not up to me (as the challenger) to "do some research", it's up to you as the poster to show that it belongs and / or is correct. You do this by supplying a reliable source. Ҝ Ø Ƽ Ħ 15:52, 26 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

April 2017

Welcome to Wikipedia. We welcome and appreciate your contributions, including your edits to Chumlee, but we cannot accept original research. Original research refers to material—such as facts, allegations, ideas, and personal experiences—for which no reliable, published sources exist; it also encompasses combining published sources in a way to imply something that none of them explicitly say. Please be prepared to cite a reliable source for all of your contributions. Thank you. Ad Orientem (talk) 15:53, 26 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

== Reply == To KoshVorlon.

Listen. Your who McMahon second name thing makes no sense. Her surname now is McMahon so what that's why i said Mcmahon is of English descent. It was a perfectly correct thing to say. If you were confused becuause the name McMahon is Irish then that's your fault as it clearly states in her 'Early Life' description she was born with Edwards as her surname ok?

Please listen

I would strongly suggest you listen to Ad Orientem, he's a sysop. Just to let you know, I looked through your contributions, and you have a strong desire to add ancestral background to people. Wikipedia has no problem with that being done, however , you must use a reliable source to back up your claim, that source has to be a source others can check, so "He told me himself" doesn't fit that parameter. Also, user supplied sources, like Wikipedia or ethniccelebs.com don't fit the parameter of reliable sources either. Please see the WP:RS guideline to see what will fit that guideline.

If you continue to add in ancestral backgrounds without any reliable source you will be blocked. Stop adding in ancestral backgrounds for people, whomever they are, without a reliable source . Ҝ Ø Ƽ Ħ 16:21, 26 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

== Reply == To KoshVorlon.

What is wrong with the Paul Sr entry as ethnic celebs is a credible source is it not? Where else am i supposed to get it form then as an example?

That's the thing, it isn't a reliable source. Please read WP:RS to see what qualifies as a reliable source. Ҝ Ø Ƽ Ħ 16:25, 26 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

April 2017

You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you violate Wikipedia's no original research policy by inserting unpublished information or your personal analysis into an article. I see you are making similar unsourced edits on multiple articles. Stop it. I know you mean well, but your behavior has become disruptive. You must abide by the community's rules when editing here. This is a final warning. If you continue to make unsourced edits to articles, especially articles about living persons, I will block you. (If you were not aware, I am an administrator.) Ad Orientem (talk) 16:24, 26 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Reply Ad Orientem

I am fully aware you are an administrator, how did you become one? I left a source for Paul Sr.

Thank you. I noticed that, however it doesn't meet our guidelines. See WP:RS and WP:CITE for more information on what we look for in sources. As for the admin thing, I was asked by some experienced editors if I would agree to offer my services at WP:RFA and I did. If you stick around for a couple years, get lots of experience and demonstrate a sound command of our policies and guidelines over that period, you might be able to do that as well. -Ad Orientem (talk) 16:37, 26 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The guidelines contain far too much info for me to read atm. Can you briefly explain why ethnicelebs.com does not meet WP reliable guidelines? Nicholas20177 (talk) 16:40, 26 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(tagging in ) I already answered that question for you. It's because it's a user-supplied database, like Wikipedia. In order for a source to be reliable, there must be editorial oversight, at the very least, which neither Wikipedia nor ethnicelebs,com has. You really need to read WP:RS for the full description. Ҝ Ø Ƽ Ħ 16:43, 26 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

+1 to what KoshVorlon wrote. Basically it needs to be a source that is respected, has editorial oversight (in other words nothing is published until it is fact checked for accuracy) and is widely recognized by reputable entities as being reliable in its information. Major news services, academic institutions or journals etc would often count. In the meantime please slow down. If you are busy right now, it happens to all of us, then don't do anymore editing until you can spend a little time to read the linked guidelines. -Ad Orientem (talk) 16:49, 26 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Your recent edits

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To BOTH KoshVorlon & Ad Orientem

Wikipedia itself is not a reliable source! Ironic don't you think? Nicholas20177 (talk) 16:43, 26 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Not really. We don't have enough oversight to be a reliable source. We do our best but in a project that anyone can edit there are limits. So no, Wikipedia is not a reliable source which is why we don't allow people to cite other articles as a reference. -Ad Orientem (talk) 16:52, 26 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

it IS Ironic since your both so adamant about reliable sources (which some of mine were even though they went against WP policies) and WP itself is kwnown for being unreliable. Nicholas20177 (talk) 16:56, 26 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

If they went against Wikipedia guidelines and policies, then no the sources weren't reliable. Ҝ Ø Ƽ Ħ 17:20, 26 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

You still haven't explained why ethnicelebs.com isn't a reliable source? And yes it IS ironic that WP istself isn't reliable lol! Nicholas20177 (talk) 06:49, 27 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

....Actually that question was answered by both myself and Ad Orientem in the topic labeled Reply Ad Orientem. Both of us stated what the issue was. We have both directed you to read WP:RS for a full explanation. I saw your response to one of those requests, also in Reply Ad Orientem where you responded with:

The guidelines contain far too much info for me to read atm. Can you briefly explain why ethnicelebs.com does not meet WP reliable guidelines

Read that guideline to start, though to be honest, I'm starting to get a whiff of I didn't hear that from you. Read the guideline - it will explain , in detail why ethnicelebs.com isn't a reliable source. Ҝ Ø Ƽ Ħ 12:47, 27 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

See wp:selfpublished. Is that your submission BTW? Submitted by Nicholas. Wikipedia is self-published and hence not RS. That is why RS citations are required per wp:verifiability. Jim1138 (talk) 22:48, 27 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Upload an image

I saw your message -- sure I can help.

First things first, you need to upload the image to Wikipedia, you would do that over at WP:UPLOAD. However before you do that please read our Image use policy. It looks Byzantine, but the simple form of this is if it's copyrighted, you must have permission to upload it first.

Once you've uploaded the image, you'll get a link to that image, usually in the form of [[File://myimage.jpg]] , either remember that link or copy it, then go to the page you're working on and either type in the file, just like you saw it above, or paste it in.
You can use Preview to make sure you've inserted the image correctly.

That's literally about it! Ҝ Ø Ƽ Ħ 19:12, 16 May 2017 (UTC) Thanks for the guidance. Really Clear, easy to understand and follow. Nicholas20177 (talk) 07:30, 17 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Jeepers Creepers 3

Your recent (repeatedly reverted) edits on Jeepers Creepers 3 are breaking a few of the general rules of wikipedia, which is why it keeps getting reverted. First, the source that you keep including only implies that Myriad Pictures is somehow involved in the movie, but it doesn't say how, so it doesn't support most of the information that you added. Also, Wikipedia does not allow original research, which is what you're doing when you talk about whether or not they're finished post-production work. While it's probably true, if the source doesn't include it than it shouldn't be in an article WP:OR. Lastly, Wikipedia has a policy of WP:BRD, which states that you should be Bold in editing, Revert anything that shouldn't be included, and Discuss any conflicts, as opposed to constantly reverting and re-reverting, and WP:3RR which says that any person may only revert a page 3 times in 24 hours or it's considered 'edit warring'. While your reverts are outside of the 24 hour period it could still be considered edit warring under that policy, which could lead to temporary blocks on your ability to edit wikipedia. Please do the right thing and re-write your edits to match Wikipedia's encyclopedic nature and policies. jmcgowan2 (talk) 12:13, 14 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

jmcgowan2 The myriad pictures thing is all true and sourced correctly as they are distributors if bother to read about them. the source i used complies with Wikipedia's policies. [[[User:Nicholas20177|Nicholas20177]] (talk) 13:25, 15 August 2017 (UTC)]

I visited the myriad pictures site. While the site does indicate that the movie is in 'Pre-Sale' status, all of the other information that you added is only implied, or original research. For example, you had written that 'as of August 8th... the film is still in post production' This is not written in the source. It can be implied, but it's not explicitly stated. Also, adding 'meaning that distribution has not been completed' is adding information that isn't in the source. While it's true information, it's not in the source. If you added that source and a line that said 'As of [date], the movie is still in the Pre-Sale status' and included your access date in the reference, that would fit better with Wikipedia standards, because it's only using information that is explicitly stated in the source. On a side note, phrases like 'less than one month before the supposed release' and 'one of either distribution, production and or financing companies working on the film' are pretty vague and probably don't meet Wikipedia's encyclopedic standards. It would be better to use specific, factual information. Is Myriad Pictures the distribution company, the production company, or a financing company? Find out the information and then add the specific, factual information instead of something vague and uncertain. jmcgowan2 (talk) 18:39, 15 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

NO! CBA. I'll just leave it. [[[User:Nicholas20177|Nicholas20177]] (talk) 15:50, 16 August 2017 (UTC)]

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Ethnicelebs.com as a source

Hi Nicholas20177. I noticed that you recently used ethnicelebs.com as a source for information in a biography article, Triple H. Please note that there is general consensus that ethnicelebs.com does not meet the reliable sourcing criteria for the inclusion of personal information in such articles. (See User_talk:XLinkBot/RevertList#EthniCelebs.com). If you disagree, let's discuss it. Thanks. --Ronz (talk) 17:08, 21 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

April 2020

Hello, and thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. I noticed that you recently added commentary to an article, Victor Salva. While Wikipedia welcomes editors' opinions on an article and how it could be changed, these comments are more appropriate for the article's accompanying talk page. If you post your comments there, other editors working on the same article will notice and respond to them, and your comments will not disrupt the flow of the article. However, keep in mind that even on the talk page of an article, you should limit your discussion to improving the article. Article talk pages are not the place to discuss opinions of the subject of articles, nor are such pages a forum. Thank you. Muzilon (talk) 13:31, 26 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I am aware of this and thought this might happen. I was hoping someone might edit the page and add his ethnic background like i did but written better to flow as you put it in the article. I am pretty sure he is Mexican? Nicholas20177 (talk) 12:14, 27 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The article would need a WP:RELIABLE source about his ethnic background, as other editors have mentioned above here. Also, a suggestion like "would someone please add a link to his blog" belongs on the Talk page, not in the main body of the article. I tried a quick Google search but couldn't find his blog, actually – do you have a link to it? Muzilon (talk) 23:53, 27 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

You have already said this. It mentions he is part of Mexican American on the bottom of the main page on wikipedia plus he looks Mexican. No credible sources unfortunately. Nicholas20177 (talk) 14:57, 28 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

June 2020

Please do not add unreferenced or poorly referenced information, especially if controversial, to articles or any other page on Wikipedia about living (or recently deceased) persons, as you did to Chris Harris (journalist). Thank you. OXYLYPSE (talk) 17:02, 10 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Wow that was quick I only just added it?

Do you know what his ethnic background is? Nicholas20177 (talk) 17:04, 10 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. It was quick as I was looking at recent changes. I'm sure you were acting in Good Faith but to be honest I'm not sure "Chris has crazy eyes" is really suitable for his Wikipedia entry anyway. You're certainly welcome to provide a proper source for your claim and discuss it on his Talk page. Take care. -OXYLYPSE (talk) 15:10, 11 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]