User talk:Lunarbot99

This account has been blocked indefinitely from editing Wikipedia because your username, Lunarbot99, contains the suffix "-bot", which is generally reserved for authorized bot accounts.

You are encouraged to choose a new account name that meets our policy guidelines. Alternatively, if you have already made edits and you wish to keep your existing contributions under a new name, then you may request a change in username by:

Adding {{unblock-un|your new username here}} on your user talk page. You should be able to do this even though you are blocked, as you can usually still edit your own talk page. If not, you may wish to contact the blocking administrator by clicking on "E-mail this user" on their talk page.
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If you feel that you were blocked in error, you may appeal this block by adding below this notice the text {{unblock|Your reason here}}, but you should read our guide to appealing blocks first.

--5 albert square (talk) 17:27, 18 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Sockpuppetry case

Your name has been mentioned in connection with a sockpuppetry case. Please refer to Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Lunarbot for evidence. Please make sure you make yourself familiar with the guide to responding to cases before editing the evidence page. 5 albert square (talk) 20:44, 18 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Block

Hello

Please note, that any blocks on both your accounts (this account and User:Lunarbot) are not against your edits, they are simply against the username. Your username has been blocked because it contains the suffix "bot" in it which is generally reserved for Wikipedia's authorised robots. I suggest that you read Wikipedia's username policy to find out what names are and aren't allowed. You can then request a change in username using the links I've given above. You will have to do it this way as creating accounts whilst blocked is not allowed. You haven't been blocked from editing your talk page, so any questions you have please feel free to ask them here.--5 albert square (talk) 22:50, 18 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation

You recently made a submission to Articles for Creation. Your article has been reviewed and because some issues were found, it could not be accepted in its current form; it is now located at Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Kaptein Kaliber. Please view your submission to see the comments left by the reviewer. Feel free to edit the submission to address the issues raised, and resubmit once you feel they have been resolved. (You can do this by adding the text {{subst:AFC submission/submit}} to the top of the article.) Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia! Alpha Quadrant ^talk 20:12, 22 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation

You recently made a submission to Articles for Creation. Your article has been reviewed and because some issues were found, it could not be accepted in its current form. Please view your submission to see the comments left by the reviewer. Feel free to edit the submission to address the issues raised, and resubmit once you feel they have been resolved. (You can do this by adding the text {{subst:AFC submission/submit}} to the top of the article.) Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia! Lunarbot99 (talk) 21:47, 22 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

My article for Kaptein Kaliber was not accepted. The reviewer said- "Please provide more information on why this musical artist or musical recording is worthy of inclusion in an encyclopedia".

Please can i have a suggestion for how to do this ?

I bought their CD from a shop and liked the music. A google search shows them to be a well published enough group- ie stuff for sale on Amazon etc. What do i need to do to my article ? ideas please.

Don't take being on sale at Amazon as meaning anything more than 'it exists'. Amazon will list almost anything - so long as they can get it 'on demand'. That means they are only out the cost of the time of someone putting it up on the site. If something ISN'T listed at Amazon, but is supposedly current, that can mean non-notable. Don't get me wrong - I'm not knocking Amazon. But they are not an indication of notability. Peridon (talk) 22:26, 22 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hold on

I can see no evidence at all that this newbie has done anything at all wrong, and yet they now have two accounts indefinitely blocked.

The documentation is unclear that the first username is banned. They should not have been expected to know that. I'm not even convinced that the block is valid, I think it's a borderline case at best.

It's even less clear why the second username is banned. Technically, bot could still be regarded as a suffix, certainly, but in common usage many would not recognise it as one.

The sockpuppetry case always was completely unsustainable. There was never any attempt to use multiple accounts to mislead, deceive, or disrupt; to create the illusion of greater support for a position; to stir up controversy; or to circumvent a block. Just the opposite, the user transparently did exactly what they thought they had been told to do.

The failure to assume good faith here is blatant. Someone (it's easy to find out who but probably not helpful) noted If these two accounts are related I think it's more of a case of someone not understanding Wikipedia's rules rather than anything else.

Amen to that. But we can't and don't expect a newbie to know all the rules, while we can and do expect seasoned users to know and abide by WP:AGF.

I think this user deserves some help and also an apology. Suggest unblock this account for a start. It's not going to cause any problem to do so, is it?

And we probably need to do some work on the username documentation too. Andrewa (talk) 01:05, 23 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Lunarbot99 (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

this username (Lunarbot99) does not have the suffix "-bot" so i don't understand why it is blocked. I followed guidelines to change this username from Lunarbot which is what i originally had. I am trying to use Wikipedia for the first time and am finding it to be a very difficult process

Decline reason:

I fully sympathise with you. It must be frustrating to create an account with a name you have no reason to think is problematic, be told that it is unacceptable, change it in a way that you think complies with the requirements, and then find the new username is objected to as well. However, usernames with the suffix "bot" are unacceptable, even if they have a number added as a further suffix, because names of that kind are used for bot accounts. It will be easiest if you choose a username which doesn't include "bot" at all, to avoid any doubt. I'm sorry that you have had such a rough start as a Wikipedia editor, through no fault of your own, and I do hope you have a better time from now on. JamesBWatson (talk) 10:23, 23 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

The above contains some good advice. Technically, -bot is still a suffix in the current username, which has two suffixes, as does User:AccReqBot2 for example.

The guidelines and other documentation and practice are not entirely consistent in this regard. I note that User:CommonsDelinker is a bot but isn't labelled -bot and this doesn't seem to have caused any problems, and User:Tim Abbot isn't a bot and is blocked but for other reasons.

I still believe that there's a case for unblocking this account, as there has never been any demonstrated need to block either of your accounts to protect Wikipedia from disruption (Wikipedia:Blocking policy).

But why bother? You'll still need to change your userid again I'm afraid, it would just be a bit more civilised not to block you. So select a third userid, then either propose it here or email me at andrewa@alder.ws and I'll check whether I can see any problems if you like. No promises, but I think that's the way to go. If you suggest it here, maybe others will give you some constructive advice too, there are advantages both ways.

Then we can see how to fix this so it doesn't happen again, or at least is less likely to.

I commend you on your civility and hard work. Hang in there. Andrewa (talk) 20:57, 23 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

See also http://en.wiki.x.io/w/index.php?title=Special%3ASearch&search=talbot&fulltext=Search&ns2=1&ns3=1&profile=advanced and specifically User:Tantalbot User:Bobtalbot61 User talk:Leah.Talbot and countless others who have also innocently infringed this (imagined IMO) prohibition but have been lucky enough to avoid censure. Andrewa (talk) 03:05, 8 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Kaptein Kaliber concern

Hi there, I'm HasteurBot. I just wanted to let you know that Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Kaptein Kaliber, a page you created has not been edited in at least 180 days. The Articles for Creation space is not an indefinite storage location for content that is not appropriate for articlespace. If your submission is not edited soon, it could be nominated for deletion. If you would like to attempt to save it, you will need to improve it. You may request Userfication of the content if it meets requirements. If the deletion has already occured, instructions on how you may be able to retrieve it are available at WP:REFUND/G13. Thank you for your attention. HasteurBot (talk) 02:58, 13 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Your article submission Kaptein Kaliber

Hello Lunarbot99. It has been over six months since you last edited your article submission, entitled Kaptein Kaliber.

The page will shortly be deleted. If you plan on editing the page to address the issues raised when it was declined and resubmit it, simply edit the submission and remove the {{db-afc}} or {{db-g13}} code. Please note, however, that Articles for Creation is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace.

If your submission has already been deleted by the time you get there, and you want to retrieve it, copy this code: {{subst:Refund/G13|Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Kaptein Kaliber}}, paste it in the edit box at this link, click "Save", and an administrator will in most cases undelete the submission.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. HasteurBot (talk) 11:02, 17 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]