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Taxoboxes
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For your tireless efforts in creating, improving and taxoboxening various biology-related articles. Reyk YO! 07:11, 11 July 2008 (UTC) |
- Thank you very much! :) -IceCreamAntisocial (talk) 15:33, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
Hey there
Thank you! Glad to know somebody came across the article :) Fvasconcellos (t·c) 00:22, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
- You're welcome & thanks for the good article! - IceCreamAntisocial (talk) 02:45, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
Username
Interesting username. But I repeatedly failed to understand what does this mean. Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 06:39, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
- Uh well it's a play on "ice cream social", which is a placid, prissy social event much like a tea party, but with ice cream. Of course, a tea party would be funnier if everyone there had antisocial personality disorder. I know, it's stupid. I picked the name in like 2 seconds never thinking that I would use it so much. Oh well, hey? - IceCreamAntisocial (talk) 07:13, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
- I like your username; it made me smile when I saw it just now for the first time. Want to switch? :-) Deor (talk) 23:40, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
Columbia College Chicago
Hey there ICA, just wondering if there was a specific reason you removed David Cromer & Albert Williams from "notable faculty members." It's not a big deal, but since I'm the one who added them I'm interested in knowing why. http://en.wiki.x.io/w/index.php?title=Columbia_College_Chicago&diff=227336072&oldid=226751289 Fitfatfighter (talk) 18:03, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
- Hello! I'm in the habit of removing names from lists of people if 1. they don't have a Wikipedia article explaining their notability or 2. don't have a link to a reliable secondary source such as a newspaper article that shows their importance in their field. I do this because there are a lot of articles that list people arbitrarily, and basically anybody can list themselves, their grandma, and their dog to 100 articles if they want to. I'm picky about the notability guidelines for living people. However, if you want to put back the people you added, please feel free! I know you added them in good faith. I won't remove them again! I appreciate your dropping me a note. Cheers, IceCreamAntisocial (talk) 20:50, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
I just wanted to let you know that I undid your edit to this list [Bluegrass]. The list is policed fairly closely for vanity and vandalism. Most of the redlinks should get articles, and all of them should be included in the list. In fact several of them are members of the International Bluegrass Music Hall of Fame! Thank you. Cmadler (talk) 18:20, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
- Umkay. Tagged for sources. Thank you. -IceCreamAntisocial (talk) 18:22, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
Although appreciating your (substantial) effort to improve it by trimming red links, I did the same for your deletions from the recorded classical pianists list, for the same reasons and others outlined on the list's discussion page. Admittedly, I seem somehow to have fallen more or less solo into the role of "traffic cop" for this list, its originator evidently having become distracted with other pursuits, but, as you'll find by consulting its discussion page and that of its sister, List of classical pianists, in which I'm also playing an active maintenance role, I try to weed out or annotate any entries that are likely spurious. I won't state with quite so much certainty that every name listed is valid--I'm suspicious of the mis-filed recent addition Aria Chelabian, for instance, and she remains where she is precisely because I'm still trying to figure out what to do about her--but I've found support for including all but at most maybe half a dozen. Those I gave the benefit of the doubt because not every recorded pianist can be found via Google or on Amazon! Now, all that said, I do appreciate any and all help with the list, and I'd welcome your interest in confirming individual names that don't belong there, maintaining the correlation between "recorded" and "general," etc. If you'd care to compare, er, notes, drop me a line on my talk page. Drhoehl (talk) 23:48, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
AfD nomination of Finam
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AfD nomination of Hammes Company
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Deletion review for Hammes Company
An editor has asked for a deletion review of Hammes Company. Since you closed the deletion discussion for this article, speedy-deleted it, or were otherwise interested in the article, you might want to participate in the deletion review. CyberGhostface (talk) 14:42, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
Makeover travel
Thanks for tagging this article for speedy deletion as an attack page. I happened across Wikipedia:Attack page after I had done the AfD and started the process of withdrawing the nomination and tagging it, but stopped because I wasn't completely certain than it didn't just apply to people (since it talks about "personal attacks"), although I feel logically it should apply to any subject. Thank you for taking the initiative and tagging it. Jll (talk) 18:02, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
- No problem, thanks for AfDing it. Cheers, IceCreamAntisocial (talk) 18:04, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
DYK 25/9
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Coretomic
Hello. Could you help me as to why you are editing this article (Coretomic). It is factual information about the company. Nothing in it has been written in a way that promotes ideas or concepts.
However, I appreciate you monitoring and making Wikipedia great. - ajcard920
- Hello. Anyone is free to edit any article on Wikipedia. I put the conflict of interest tag on it because the person listed right there in the article as the marketing director of the company sounds a whole lot like your user name - it's pretty obvious you are the marketing director of this company and you want the world knowing this. Sure, it's your job to market the company, but Wikipedia is not the place to do that. You have a conflict of interest, plain and simple, thus the tag. It doesn't matter how "factual" the article is. If a company or anything else is notable, someone unrelated to it will eventually write an article about it. The people who work for the company shouldn't. Thanx. Cheers, IceCreamAntisocial (talk) 02:26, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
- Hi Ice, I had the same impression. I am concerned that Ajcard920 has removed the advertising tag and added external links to the article without providing good reasons. Both Coretomic, Inc. and Interactive Contract Manufacturing show the same problems. Have a nice weekend. - 83.254.214.192 (talk) 15:53, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
Hi there!
I know you only have one contribution to the article Bernie Digris, but it is obviously hardly notable enough to be on the site in my opinion. Do you think it should be listed at WP:AFD? I posted a comment about this on the page's talk so if you could reply there as well as on my talk page, that would be great. Thanks! Jock Boy 19:35, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
- Allright then. I removed the {{notability}} tag on the page and notified the user that I was wrong. Jock Boy 22:03, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
DYK for Astragalus brauntonii
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Alessandro Maletti
Speedy criteria A7 is a bit ambiguous when the editor makes a claim that supports some type of notability but it does not support the minimum notability for articles for Wikipedia. This was the case with Alessandro Maletti. To err on the side of caution, I replaced your speedy-deletion tag with a PROD, and fully intend to take this through to AFD unless new information surfaces showing that this person is indeed wiki-notable. I've notified the original editor. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs)/(e-mail) 23:23, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
- Okay thanx! IceCreamAntisocial (talk) 09:10, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
quick props
- This edit cracked me up no end. Cheers, tomasz. 13:32, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
And now, for Fvasconcellos' traditional nonsectarian holiday greeting!
Plant articles
Thanks for starting so many. Good work. --KP Botany (talk) 07:34, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
- My pleasure. Thanx. -IceCreamAntisocial (talk) 16:59, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
First off, I apologize for the spam. You are receiving this message because you have indicated that you are in Southern California or interested in Southern California topics (either via category or WikiProject).
I would like to invite you to the Los Angeles edition of Wikipedia:Wikipedia Loves Art, a photography scavenger hunt to be held at the Los Angeles County Museum of Art (LACMA) on Saturday, February 28, 2009, from 1:00 to 7:00 PM. All photos are intended for use in Wikipedia articles or on Wikimedia Commons. There will be a prize available for the person who gets the most photos on the list.
If you don't like art, why not come just to meet your fellow Wikipedians. Apparently, we haven't had a meetup in this area since June 2006!
If you are interested in attending, please add your name to Wikipedia:Wikipedia Loves Art#Los Angeles County Museum of Art. Please make a note if you are traveling to the area (train or plane) and need transportation, which can probably be arranged via carpool, but we need time to coordinate. Lodging is as of right now out of scope, but we could discuss that if enough people are interested.
Thank you and I hope to see you there! howcheng {chat} 23:59, 9 January 2009 (UTC) Please refrain from creating inappropriate pages such as Clarkia epilobioides. It is considered vandalism. If you would like to experiment, use the sandbox. Whip it! Now whip it good! 03:41, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
- Ignore that message above. I tagged the wrong page by accident. Sorry. --Whip it! Now whip it good! 03:44, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
- No problemo good buddy. - IceCreamAntisocial (talk) 03:54, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
Wildflower ID
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Hi IceCreamAntisocial, can you tell me what this is? It's a small flower, low growing, at about 2,500 ft. elevation in the northern California foothills. And good work on all the Cal. wildflower articles! First Light (talk) 20:43, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks! Sorry I have no clue what the flower is! -IceCreamAntisocial (talk) 23:54, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
- Maybe it's a species of Crocus or at least in the Crocoideae subfamily of Iridaceae. The Crocus Pages site has a lot of photos of Crocus flowers which seem to share some common features. « D. Trebbien (talk) 02:33, 16 February 2010 (UTC)
Plant and Garden wiki
Hi , I'm writing to you because you've edited many of the plant articles. I wanted to let you know about a plants-specific wiki site which you might be interested in contributing to. The site focuses specifically on how to grow any plant. Since Wikipedia is not a how-to, and articles are not allowed to be written as a guide on how to grow plants, two years ago I started http://www.plants.am - a wiki solely to address that topic (much like how wikitravel.org is solely to advise tourists visiting a country or city on their destination).
An example of how the sites differ can be seen immediately by comparing the Wikipedia article on Asparagus, with the Plants.am Asparagus article. Many of the articles currently on the site are placeholder articles taken from Wikipedia which are being rewritten from scratch, or shells of articles using new templates. However, a core of new articles like the Asparagus article (which still has a lot of room to grow) are being created, and the undertaking is huge. Perhaps you have some materials you can add which are not appropriate for Wikipedia. If you have any questions at all about this new resource, feel free to contact me on my user page here or on Plants.am. Thanks! --RaffiKojian (talk) 00:49, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for saving my face on that image...I'm surprised I missed the copyright symbol on it when I uploaded it last year. Back then, I hadn't discovered yet that the images on the US-Government-owned PLANTS database are mostly copyrighted. Boy, was disappointing when I found that out...and since then I've been double-checking before I upload.
Have a wonderful day, Bob the Wikipedian (talk • contribs) 19:19, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
Aspidotis victoriana
I don't have access to much of the recent literature, but it doesn't look like any of the recent authors are recognizing A. victoriana, although it did make a few publications in the early 1960s when the lacefern genera were being resorted. I can only assume that it is now being considered simply a variant form of A. californica. I'm still a real novice at this process. Should it just be included as a deprecated synonym for the current species in the sidebar (A. californica is missing a ton of those, including all the way back in the late 1800s when it was in Hypolepis), instead of having its own page? Sir Landmass Weevil (talk) 17:11, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
- Well the thing is, there is no reference to it anywhere, so it doesn't pass the verifiability requirement for Wikipedia articles. Not everything in the world can be found with a Google search, but a species of plant should at least be mentioned somewhere. I can't even see where it's listed as a synonym. But if it is currently treated as part of another species, the article should be merged to that species. Let me know if there's anything I can do. Thanx, cheers, -IceCreamAntisocial (talk) 23:11, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
Ribes divaricatum
Hi IceCreamAntisocial; I'm an admirer of your work. I've uploaded a number of images of Ribes divaricatum on Commons:Ribes divaricatum. Its range includes California (although R. d. subsp. divaricatum does not). I wonder if you'd be interested in writing an article for the species, please? Walter Siegmund (talk) 17:52, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
- Will do. Wonderful pictures! -IceCreamAntisocial (talk) 00:17, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
- That would be splendid! Thank you for the kind words. Walter Siegmund (talk) 04:25, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
- That is good work on the new article. Best wishes, Walter Siegmund (talk) 20:11, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
Hi Ice. Could I have you glance at the above article, I'm concerned if it's a hoax. Had to DEPROD in a hurry, or it would have been deleted, as the PROD was already expired when I saw it. Please reply at that talk page. Thanks, Power.corrupts (talk) 21:02, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
- Just saw the reply on the topic above. It seems that AGF is warranted here. Sorry to mess up your page. Power.corrupts (talk) 21:07, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
Barnstar
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Because you make legit articles about plants and I really, really, like your screename. I dream of horses (talk) 02:23, 8 June 2009 (UTC) |
- Hooray! Thanks! -IceCreamAntisocial (talk) 02:37, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
Italicising article titles
Hi. Can you tell me how to force article titles to be italicised, as in your recent edit to Trinia glauca? Thanks SP-KP (talk) 17:43, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
- Yeah if you put a taxobox in the article it will automatically be italicized, as long as you leave out the "name" line in the taxobox. -IceCreamAntisocial (talk) 23:41, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
- Hey there. Saw the conversation and thought I'd leave a few links. You can also use {{italictitle}}. There's a bot request right now to italicize all species and genera articles; pop on over to Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/Polbot 13 and leave your thoughts on the discussion, if you feel so moved. Cheers, Rkitko (talk) 01:57, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
DYK for Eryngium racemosum
BorgQueen (talk) 20:35, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
Sambucus racemosa
Hi IceCreamAntisocial; Sambucus racemosa, widely distributed in California as well as temperate North America and Eurasia, is badly in need of some attention. Best wishes, Walter Siegmund (talk) 20:59, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
- Thank you![1] Walter Siegmund (talk) 15:50, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
Sorry, I declined your speedy nomination and sent it to ProD
Proposed deletion of Chiari & Syringomyelia Foundation
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A proposed deletion template has been added to the article Chiari & Syringomyelia Foundation, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process because of the following concern:
- Claims notability of charity without little relevant details or citations; speedy deletion decline
All contributions are appreciated, but this article may not satisfy Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and the deletion notice should explain why (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and Wikipedia's deletion policy). You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{dated prod}}
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Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised because, even though removing the deletion notice will prevent deletion through the proposed deletion process, the article may still be deleted if it matches any of the speedy deletion criteria or it can be sent to Articles for Deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached. Bearian (talk) 19:38, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
Eremogone capillaris
Eremogone capillaris (syn. Arenaria capillaris) is well-illustrated but Eremogone capillaris doesn't exist. I suspect that you have many articles that are more important, but I wanted to mention it to you. Its range includes California.[2] Best wishes, Walter Siegmund (talk) 01:16, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
- Interesting, I must have skipped it because it wasn't in the alphabetical list in Jepson, which is the list I'm working through. I'll do it. Thanx. Cheers, IceCreamAntisocial (talk) 07:38, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
- The California population may have been split off and renamed, but I would have thought that searching for the old name would still have found it. I searched Google Scholar for Eremogone capillaris and Arenaria capillaris and California but that turned up nothing. Perhaps the folks at Jepson can help. Best wishes, Walter Siegmund (talk) 15:07, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
Veronica wormskjoldii
I added some pictures of Veronica wormskjoldii, an exquisite little flower. It is covered nicely by Jepson.[3] Best wishes, Walter Siegmund (talk) 05:03, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
- Perfect! Thank you! -IceCreamAntisocial (talk) 15:43, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
- Splendid! I love your work on Veronica wormskjoldii. Best wishes, Walter Siegmund (talk) 16:20, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
Valeriana sitchensis
Hi IceCreamAntisocial; I noticed just now that Valeriana sitchensis is well-illustrated, but does not yet have an article.[4] It is ubiquitous in the PNW. Best wishes, Walter Siegmund (talk) 02:42, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
- Done, thanks! - IceCreamAntisocial (talk) 19:09, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
- Splendid! An excellent beginning. Walter Siegmund (talk) 17:30, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
WikiProject California Invitation
Hi, I noticed you were creating a lot of articles related to the flora of California and was wondering if you were interested in joining WikiProject California.
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If you are interested in California-related themes, you may want to check out the California Portal.
If you are interested in contributing more to California related articles you may want to join WikiProject California (signup here).
-Optigan13 (talk) 09:27, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
- I think I will, thanks! -IceCreamAntisocial (talk) 14:27, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
- Welcome, enjoy the templated greeting below. -Optigan13 (talk) 19:32, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
Greetings from WikiProject California!
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Welcome to WikiProject California!
I noticed you recently added yourself to our Participants' list, and I wanted to welcome you to our project. Our goal is to facilitate collaboration on California-related articles, and everyone is welcome to join. Here are some suggested activities:
- Discuss with other members at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject California
- Cleanup some of the articles listed for cleanup
- Have a look at the Article alerts
If you have any questions, don't hesitate to ask at the project talk page, or feel free to ask me on my talk page.
Again, welcome! -Optigan13 (talk) 19:32, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
Moehringia macrophylla
Hi IceCreamAntisocial; Moehringia macrophylla is well-illustrated at Commons:Moehringia macrophylla (UC/JEPS: Jepson Manual treatment for MOEHRINGIA macrophylla). Montia parvifolia is well-illustrated at Commons:Montia parvifolia (Jepson Manual treatment for MONTIA parvifolia). Do you wish to create articles for these species? Thank you, Walter Siegmund (talk) 18:45, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
- Yes I do. I am coming to the end of the L's now and will cover the M's next. Thanks! -IceCreamAntisocial (talk) 10:04, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
- That is good news. Your work is high quality. Thank you. Walter Siegmund (talk) 20:02, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
- Thank you for your work on Moehringia macrophylla. I didn't know that it had such a large range. Walter Siegmund (talk) 19:58, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
- No problem! -IceCreamAntisocial (talk) 17:03, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
DYK for Balanites aegyptiaca
BorgQueen (talk) 00:29, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for creating this article on B. aegyptiaca! I was wondering how I was going to deal with some of the redlinks in articles like Nechisar National Park & Yabelo Wildlife Sanctuary. -- llywrch (talk) 05:52, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
- My pleasure, it was a really interesting subject to write about! -IceCreamAntisocial (talk) 07:55, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for the Hadra article!
Hi IceCreamAntisocial, it was nice to see a new land snail article from someone who is not in the gastropod project. Are you interested in snails or were you just making a red link disappear? Just in case you have a bit of interest in snails, I should offer you this invitation:
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I've noticed your edits on pages relating to Gastropods; perhaps you'd be interested in joining WikiProject Gastropods? If you would like more information, please visit the project page or the project talk page. |
Very best wishes to you, Invertzoo (talk) 17:34, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
- I was disambiguifying, and I saw that the red link needed to be filled. But yes I do have an appreciation for snails and such! I might join the project, thanks for the invite, although most of my time is going into plant articles at the moment. Cheers, IceCreamAntisocial (talk) 17:03, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
A barnstar
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I hereby award you this barnstar for your tireless contributions to many, interesting articles about plants. In particular, I noticed that you created the Navarretia intertexta and Navarretia jepsonii articles just this morning!
Many thanks for your work « D. Trebbien (talk) 18:02, 9 November 2009 (UTC) |
Thanks!! -IceCreamAntisocial (talk) 16:13, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
Request Concerning Rotula
Would you mind if I were to commandeer Rotula (which is currently a redirect) for use as an article on the eponymous genus of West African sand dollars?--Mr Fink (talk) 20:54, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
- Sure! It looks like I just moved an article from there and couldn't delete the resulting redirect. Thanks for the note! -IceCreamAntisocial (talk) 20:56, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
- Gesundheit.--Mr Fink (talk) 21:00, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
Montia parviflora
Hi IceCreamAntisocial; Thanks for writing Montia parviflora. I couldn't find a source for that binomial name.[5] Do you remember where you got it? Walter Siegmund (talk) 18:49, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
- Oops - it was a mistake, I started the article using the link from Montia, which was wrong, and then just cut & pasted it into the taxobox & article text without even checking it! Oh dear. Thanks for catching that! -IceCreamAntisocial (talk) 00:45, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
- I'm never sure about these things anymore. It is hard to keep up with the taxonomy. Thank you for looking into it and for the article. Walter Siegmund (talk) 01:02, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
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