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Page move vandalism

Hello, Ian,

User:Energy From Fusion just moved a long-standing article, Fusion power, from main space to a MediaWiki talk page. I've seen this in the past when students want to move their own draft to the main space under that title. I've posted a vandalism warning because this was not some obscure article but an important article that has existed on the project since 2002. I have move protected the article but, if you could, please have a word with the editor or instructor. The only reason I came across this move is that it left a cross-namespace redirect that showed up in a Quarry query. Thank you. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 03:48, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ugh. Thanks Liz. I will do that.

MediaWiki talk:Fusion power of all things? Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 15:30, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, Ian. I'm starting to see a lot of student drafts that the editor is trying to move into main space. I run a Quarry query that finds User pages for non-existent users and these student editors typically think they are moving their work into the main space but they forget to change the namespace from "User" to "Article" so I'm coming across pages like User:Buxton Inn. This makes them easy to find and move to Draft space but it's gone from 0 pages to 6 today and I'm afraid it is only going to increase as we near the end of the term. I even had one student editor do this twice so I left them a message on their User talk page. I'm just worried that a less conscientious editor will just tag them for deletion.

I know I've brought this issue up before but the instructors really have to emphasize that students don't need to "publish" their coursework (some say "go live") to get a good grade. I'm afraid that we'll be seeing some of these drafts at AFD soon. If I notice these page moves are happening with a particular course, I'll let you know. By the way, I went to the User talk pages for two different Wiki Ed people who posted welcome messages on these students' user talk page and neither of them had logged on in quite a few days. I don't know if you guys are volunteers or are employed by WMF but we probably need your help more towards the end of the term than the beginning. Many thanks for the work you. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 03:18, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Statistics dashboard late update

Hi Ian! I have a question regarding the contribution statistics dashboard. I've been adding more than 8 references and words to the article, but it hasn't been updated since my first edit. Why does this happen? My professor won't be able to see the exact progress of my article if it isn't updated. Example I cited 12 references and only appears 8. Arianaguila15 (talk) 01:47, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Arianaguila15 - it looks like you've been editing on your user page. The Dashboard doesn't track edits to your userpage. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 16:06, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I've been also adding to the article User-generated content, I have so far 13 sources. Can you review the article edits to see my edits, please? Arianaguila15 (talk) 16:11, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Arianaguila15 I think I've figured out the problem. The Dashboard should update soon. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 19:32, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you Ian. Yes, it's already updated! Arianaguila15 (talk) 14:50, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Publish Changes Button not Working

Hello!

Every time that I have gone to use the publish changes button on the slender-billed vulture page after making my edits to the page, the top bar that shows the loading just loads forever and it never publishes. I can still edit the summary for some reason, but I can't exit out of it either to get back to the page. The only way out of it is to reload the page which deletes anything I added. What should I do? Thatcrypticrobyn (talk) 21:30, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nevermind! I believe I have figured it out- but I do have a question as to if there is an easy way to transfer the references from the sandbox to the actual article, as I had to manually make several of them so if I do not need to remake them that would be ideal. Thatcrypticrobyn (talk) 22:00, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Thatcrypticrobyn! To copy over the sources, make sure that you have both pages in edit mode, then copy/paste the sourcing over. This will allow you to transfer over the formatting for the sources. If you're copying it over into a template or table that can be more complicated, so with those it may be easier to create the sources anew sometimes.

I hope that helps! (And hi Ian! I hope everything is going OK!) ReaderofthePack(formerly Tokyogirl79) (｡◕‿◕｡) 19:20, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks @ReaderofthePack! It's good to see you! Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 19:22, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Possible Student COI issue

Is [1] a COI policy violation by one of your students? They edited the article of a med school they appear to be enrolled in. McYeee (talk) 07:55, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It's pretty common to write about the university you're attending or have attended on Wikipedia. While we discourage it for students, this isn't the article they're working on for their class, and quite frankly I'm happy if they branch out to other topics in the last few days of their class (because it might get them to stick around).

I've asked a slightly more general question at COIN. Hopefully the feedback there will help. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 15:50, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for doing that. I guess I was wrong, and I won't flag that in the future. McYeee (talk) 22:26, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@McYeee You're not wrong, but I think we generally ignore it unless it rises to the level of promotion. I appreciate that you flagged it to me; had it not been the end of the course I might have said something to them, at least asked them to be thoughtful and aware of potential conflicts. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 16:55, 15 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

	The Teamwork Barnstar
	We've had to work together to deal with a few confused students. Thanks for being so helpful. I dream of horses (Hoofprints) (Neigh at me) 22:03, 15 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wow. Thank you so much @I dream of horses! Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 14:33, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello, Ian,

I'm not sure what you said and to whom, but I haven't come across any student drafts that have been accidentally moved to a incorrect User namespace page in weeks! A month ago, this was an an ongoing problem but it hasn't happened in a long time. It was as if an editor, say, User:Liz put User:Liz/An Unfinished Flower, into User:An Unfinished Flower by mistake. But I'm not coming across these mistakes any longer. So, thanks for your help and that of the Wiki Ed team! Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 19:40, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]