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Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- The database for tags will be changed. This will happen on 2 July on French Wikipedia and 9 July on all other wikis. Please report if recent changes get slower or you can't save edits. This could especially affect editors who use the database on ToolForge. [1]
Problems
- Last week's MediaWiki update was rolled back. This was because of a database problem. [2]
Changes later this week
- There is no new MediaWiki version this week.
Meetings
You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 3 July at 18:30 (UTC). See how to join.
You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 4 July at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.
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00:46, 3 July 2018 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- WebM video files have smaller file size but still be of the same quality. Creating WebM files will take longer time. [3]
- The new filters for edit review tools and interface for watchlists will leave beta. This was supposed to already have happened but was delayed. For most wikis this will happen on 9 July. For the rest it will happen on 16 July. [4]
All wikis now use the Remex parsing library instead of Tidy. This could cause errors. You can help fix the errors. [5]
Problems
- When you rolled back an edit it could get both the
Rollback
andUndo
tags. This has been fixed. [6] - Rollbacks from autopatrolled users were not marked as patrolled. This has been fixed. [7]
Changes later this week
- When you edit a link in the visual editor there will be two separate buttons to change which page the link goes to (target) or its text (label). [8][9]
- On the mobile version you can find a link to an editor's contributions from their user page. Now this will work even if they haven't created a user page. [10]
- When you edit a discussion on the mobile version you sometimes get your signature automatically added. This will now not happen if you have already added a signature manually. This is to avoid double signatures. [11]
- Structured discussions toolbars will have more style options. [12]
When you look at Wikimedia code in Gerrit there will be a new interface. It is on by default for new users. This is also true for developers. This is to make it easier to understand what is happening. [13]
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 10 July. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 11 July. It will be on all wikis from 12 July (calendar).
Meetings
You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 10 July at 18:30 (UTC). See how to join.
You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 11 July at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- Today all administrators can edit CSS and JavaScript for the entire wiki. There will be a new user group for editing CSS and JavaScript. Administrators will no longer automatically be able to do this. This is because it is a security risk when all administrator accounts can edit JavaScript even if they never plan to or do not know how it works. You can read more. [14]
- Page previews will be on by default for new accounts. [15]
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23:09, 9 July 2018 (UTC)
U.S. Deletion sorting
- Nb. I have drafted a proposal to create guidelines for the U.S. deletion sorting page. The discussion is located at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Deletion sorting § WikiProject Deletion sorting/United States of America guideline proposal. North America1000 06:39, 11 July 2018 (UTC)
Given names
Category:Redirects from given names is supposed to be for individual given names that only have one name-holder with an article. Something like Solomon Jemuel is two separate names and so should not be in this category. —Xezbeth (talk) 04:13, 15 July 2018 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- You can now use global preferences on Wikimedia wikis. You can set them on the global preferences page. [16]
- You can now see a new log of pages being created at Special:Log/create. It includes pages which are later deleted. It is now available on all Wikimedia wikis except Commons and Wikidata. [17]
- You can see how many pageviews a wiki had from specific countries. The Wikistats2 maps have now been updated. [18]
Changes later this week
- Your watchlist will show changes from the last seven days instead of three. If you have already set a length preference it will not change. [19]
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from July 17. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from July 18. It will be on all wikis from July 19 (calendar).
Meetings
You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on July 17 at 18:30 (UTC). See how to join.
You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on July 18 at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- Some articles have messages to readers about problems with the article. For example that it does not cite sources or might not be neutral. Readers do not see these messages on the mobile version. The developers now want to show them. You can read more and leave feedback.
- You can use
<inputbox>
to create search boxes for specific pages. For example to search the archives of a community discussion page. Instead ofprefix:Page name
you will see a text that explains which pages are being searched. You can read more and leave feedback.
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16:00, 16 July 2018 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- When you log in to your account you can choose to keep being logged in. This checkbox now works better than before on the mobile version for users without JavaScript. [20]
- Wikis that use Citoid can automatically generate citations for Swedish news sites. This only works in the visual editor. This now works for Swedish public service radio. More will come. Others could use this to add news sites in other languages in the future. [21]
- Editors can do max 90 edits per minute. This is new since last month. This does not affect bots or administrators. [22]
Changes later this week
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 24 July. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 25 July. It will be on all wikis from 26 July (calendar).
Meetings
You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 25 July at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.
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09:44, 24 July 2018 (UTC)
Hi
Any reason why you are deleting information?? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.198.82.36 (talk) 08:52, 28 July 2018 (UTC)
- @12.198.82.36: No source provided and the format of your edits is not within the guidelines of WP:MOS Babymissfortune 08:55, 28 July 2018 (UTC)
All of the additions are accurate and true, please google the given dates and add chris ellis for yourself and see! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.198.82.36 (talk) 08:57, 28 July 2018 (UTC)
Please stop erasing the added text, ive worked very hard to find a post this. I am reading and learning how to do the citation as we speak, but please stop erasing it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.198.82.36 (talk) 09:03, 28 July 2018 (UTC)
- @12.198.82.36: If you want to practice, do it at WP:SANDBOX, not on the page itself. Babymissfortune 09:10, 28 July 2018 (UTC)
NPR Newsletter No.12 30 July 2018
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Hello Dieter Lloyd Wexler, thank you for your work reviewing New Pages!
- June backlog drive
Overall the June backlog drive was a success, reducing the last 3,000 or so to below 500. However, as expected, 90% of the patrolling was done by less than 10% of reviewers.
Since the drive closed, the backlog has begun to rise sharply again and is back up to nearly 1,400 already. Please help reduce this total and keep it from raising further by reviewing some articles each day.
- New technology, new rules
- New features are shortly going to be added to the Special:NewPagesFeed which include a list of drafts for review, OTRS flags for COPYVIO, and more granular filter preferences. More details can be found at this page.
- Probationary permissions: Now that PERM has been configured to allow expiry dates to all minor user rights, new NPR flag holders may sometimes be limited in the first instance to 6 months during which their work will be assessed for both quality and quantity of their reviews. This will allow admins to accord the right in borderline cases rather than make a flat out rejection.
- Current reviewers who have had the flag for longer than 6 months but have not used the permissions since they were granted will have the flag removed, but may still request to have it granted again in the future, subject to the same probationary period, if they wish to become an active reviewer.
- Editathons
- Editathons will continue through August. Please be gentle with new pages that obviously come from good faith participants, especially articles from developing economies and ones about female subjects. Consider using the 'move to draft' tool rather than bluntly tagging articles that may have potential but which cannot yet reside in mainspace.
- The Signpost
- The next issue of the monthly magazine will be out soon. The newspaper is an excellent way to stay up to date with news and new developments between our newsletters. If you have special messages to be published, or if you would like to submit an article (one about NPR perhaps?), don't hesitate to contact the editorial team here.
Go here to remove your name if you wish to opt-out of future mailings. — Insertcleverphrasehere (or here) 00:00, 30 July 2018 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- The design on Special:Log has changed. It will change again soon. Developers are working on fixing problems. [23]
Problems
- Deployment of 1.32.0-wmf.13 has been partially delayed. All deployments have been resumed and successfully done after bug fixes. [24][25]
- Deployment of 1.32.0-wmf.14 has been partially delayed. [26][27]
Changes later this week
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 31 July. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 1 August. It will be on all wikis from 2 August (calendar).
Meetings
You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 31 July at 18:30 (UTC). See how to join.
You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 1 August at 15:00 (UTC) as well as at 23:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- After a community discussion, a new group for users will be created. "Interface administrators" will be the only users allowed to edit interface pages like MediaWiki:Common.css or MediaWiki:Common.js. This is done to avoid technical issues and improve security. That change will be effective by the end of August 2018.
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14:05, 30 July 2018 (UTC)
The Signpost: 31 July 2018
- From the editor: If only if
- Opinion: Wrestling with Wikipedia reality
- Discussion report: Wikipedias take action against EU copyright proposal, plus new user right proposals
- Featured content: Wikipedia's best content in images and prose
- Arbitration report: Status quo processes retained in two disputes
- Traffic report: Soccer, football, call it what you like – that and summer movies leave room for little else
- Technology report: New bots, new prefs
- Recent research: Different Wikipedias use different images; editing contests more successful than edit-a-thons
- Humour: It's all the same
- Essay: Wikipedia does not need you
Review page
Look into Samson Olatunde. Work in progress however I think it could deserve reviewing Aghachi7 (talk) 09:31, 1 August 2018 (UTC)
Hello
Babymissfortune, Do you committee with welcome in my talk page? FedericoPaoloBassani 06:34, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- Special:NewPages now has the OOUI look. [28]
Problems
- The MediaWiki version that was released two weeks ago was late to some Wikimedia wikis. This was because of bugs. It was on all wikis 30 July. [29][30]
Changes later this week
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 7 August. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 8 August. It will be on all wikis from 9 August.
Meetings
You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 7 August at 18:30 (UTC). See how to join.
You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 8 August at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.
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19:39, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
2019 Moto2 season
[31] You're kidding, right – was that some sort of mistake? I changed the Lüthi's number from TBA to 12 without sources/discussion, why was I reverted, and why for the same reason? 180.254.206.213 (talk) 17:55, 12 August 2018 (UTC)
- @180.254.206.213: Any source stating that his number next year is #12? Since he is going to change series (MotoGP to Moto2), it will be unsure whether he would retain his #12 or not. Babymissfortune 10:00, 12 August 2018 (UTC)
Category:United States men's national basketball team players
This is a sub-category of "Category:American men's basketball players," the parent category shouldn't also be added. One can't play for the US national team without holding American citizenship. Rikster2 (talk) 16:49, 13 August 2018 (UTC)
- @Rikster2: Could this be considered a non-diffusing cat or not? Babymissfortune 17:00, 13 August 2018 (UTC)
- (edit conflict)@Rikster2: That was my first reaction too. However, I edited that category to make it non-diffusing, basically making it OK for parent to have a master list since there was already so many other non-national team players in the parent. I'm not a big category person, so am not too passionate either way, but it's not a definite no-no.—Bagumba (talk) 17:05, 13 August 2018 (UTC)
- Honestly, I don’t see a good reason to add another 100+ articles to a category that already has thousands, and could have thousands more, but whatever. I guess my question is “why is this helpful.” Rikster2 (talk) 17:09, 13 August 2018 (UTC)
- Sometimes I wonder if categories are helpful, period. That aside, no issues if anyone goes and reverts my edit.—Bagumba (talk) 17:31, 13 August 2018 (UTC)
- Honestly, I don’t see a good reason to add another 100+ articles to a category that already has thousands, and could have thousands more, but whatever. I guess my question is “why is this helpful.” Rikster2 (talk) 17:09, 13 August 2018 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
CSS in templates can now be stored in a separate page on all wikis. This is called TemplateStyles. This is to make it easier to edit how templates look. [32]
Changes later this week
- There is no new MediaWiki version this week.
Meetings
You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 14 August at 18:30 (UTC). See how to join.
You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 15 August at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- The developers are planning more ways to block users. This could be blocking someone from just a page or a namespace. You can read more. You can leave feedback on the talk page. [33]
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17:53, 13 August 2018 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Changes later this week
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 21 August. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 22 August. It will be on all wikis from 23 August (calendar).
Meetings
You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 22 August at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- The 2018 Community Wishlist Survey begins on 29 October. The survey decides what the Community Tech team will work on. You can post proposals from 29 October to 11 November. You can vote on proposals from 16 November to 30 November.
Legacy JavaScript global variables have been deprecated for seven years. They will soon be removed from all wikis. Gadgets and scripts that use them will stop working. You can test your community's gadgets on "group0" wikis. For example Test Wikipedia or mediawiki.org. The legacy JavaScript global variables are already disabled there. You can read the migration guide to fix old scripts. [34]
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16:46, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
NorthPort Batang Pier template
Pare, ikaw ba yung gumawa ng template ng NorthPort Batang Pier? Pwede bang pakipalitan yung template nila from red to orange kasi orange yung road color ng NorthPort. Salamat. Gayviewmahat (talk)
Done Gayviewmahat Please speak in English in talk pages per WP:SPEAKENGLISH. Thank you. Babymissfortune 12:29, 26 August 2018 (UTC)
Babymissfortune Sorry about that. Are you the one who made the template for NorthPort Batang Pier? If so, can you please change the color of their template from red to orange because it's their dominant color. Thanks. Gayviewmahat (talk) 12:35, 26 August 2018 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- You can now see moved paragraphs in diffs in the mobile view. It also works on all languages in the desktop view. [35]
- Bureaucrats on all Wikimedia wikis can now remove the interface admin user right. [36]
Problems
- Some diffs show lines in the wrong order. The developers are working on fixing it. [37]
Changes later this week
- The message you see when you thank a user will change. This is to make it easier to understand. [38]
- AWB will stop adding
using AWB
in the edit summary. Instead it will add a tag that saysAWB
. [39] Some abuse filter variables have changed. They are now easier to understand for non-experts. The old variables will still work but filter editors are encouraged to replace them with the new ones. You can find the list of changed variables on mediawiki.org. They have a note which says
Deprecated. Use ... instead
. An example isarticle_text
which is nowpage_title
. [40]Abuse filters can now use how old a page is. The variable is
page_age
. [41]The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 28 August. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 29 August. It will be on all wikis from 30 August (calendar).
Meetings
You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 28 August at 18:30 (UTC). See how to join.
You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 29 August at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- Because of a data centre test you will be able to read but not edit the wikis for up to an hour on 12 September and 10 October. This will start at 14:00 (UTC). You might lose edits if you try to save during this time. The time when you can't edit might be shorter than an hour. You can read more about this.
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16:16, 27 August 2018 (UTC)
The Signpost: 30 August 2018
- From the editor: Today's young adults don't know a world without Wikipedia
- News and notes: Flying high; low practice from Wikipedia 'cleansing' agency; where do our donations go? RfA sees a new trend
- In the media: Quicksilver AI writes articles
- Discussion report: Drafting an interface administrator policy
- Featured content: Featured content selected by the community
- Special report: Wikimania 2018
- Traffic report: Aretha dies – getting just 2,000 short of 5 million hits
- Technology report: Technical enhancements and a request to prioritize upcoming work
- Recent research: Wehrmacht on Wikipedia, neural networks writing biographies
- Humour: Signpost editor censors herself
- From the archives: Playing with Wikipedia words
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- There is a new user right for users who can edit CSS and JavaScript for the entire wiki. Before this all admins could edit CSS and JavaScript. This was a security risk. This group is called interface administrators. Administrators can delete user CSS and JavaScript pages. [42][43]
- There will be an A/B test on the Wikipedia mobile website. It starts this week. It tests how we show templates that show information about an article. The test will last two weeks. [44][45]
- You can now use different CSS rules for different skins when you edit templates. This is because of TemplateStyles. [46]
wp10
in ORES is now calledarticlequality
. [47]- When you get a new message on your talk page you get a yellow message in the toolbar. The preference to show or not show this has been removed. [48]
Problems
- UploadWizard had problems with campaigns. Users could not upload files. This has now been fixed. [49]
- You can get a notification when a link is made to a page you created. This has not worked since June. It was fixed last week. [50]
Changes later this week
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 4 September. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 5 September. It will be on all wikis from 6 September (calendar).
Meetings
You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 5 September at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- The Wikimedia Foundation Readers department will work on advanced mobile editing. You can read more about this and other things they plan to work on over the next year. You can also see the presentation.
- The RelatedSites extension will be removed from Wikivoyage.
Unused projects on the Wikimedia Cloud virtual private server will be removed. This will happen in October. Projects can be marked if they are being used. [51]
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16:47, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
SHRM Wikipedia Page
Babymissfortune, I've saw that you were very active on the SHRM Wikipedia page. I work for SHRM and I am a wikipedia editor and wanted to discuss some factual edits that are needed on the SHRM page. Some of the numbers and policy information are outdated, and i am pretty sure if i try to edit them the edits will be rejected. Would you consider helping to edit the page? I'm happy to supply factual information on membership numbers, recent news events, policies etc. SHRMCHRIS (talk) 14:44, 7 September 2018 (UTC)SHRMCHRIS
Re: Anonymous User 180.191.79.49
Good day Babymissfortune!
I dropped by to ask for your help in protecting the page Ang Probinsyano from the anonymous user 180.191.79.49. Said user keeps on adding erroneous and/or unsourced entries. The anonymous user too, does it on a regular basis. I believe a sanction is in order innorder for said user to be deterred from vandalising the page.
Thank you.
Warmest regards. Gardo Versace (talk) 19:23, 9 September 2018 (UTC)
Pradip Kumar Banerjee
How do you know that Pradip Kumar Banerjee's goals not recognised by FIFA, please provide proof, secondly, when I edited that section and included his name I provide two links, one of which is maintained by renowed sport journalist Arunava Chaudhuri[1][2] and the page online page where he shared these data indianfootball.de, information shared by renowned journalist, author, commentator Novi Kapadia[3] along with Joydip Basu another sport journalist from The Telegraph. For checking the contributor, scroll down in this two links (http://www.indianfootball.de/data/halloffame/index.html) (http://www.indianfootball.de/specials/india/indianteam/indianteam.html) and the other link that provided during editing was sportskeeda.com[4] which is recognised online journal on sports. [User:Dey subrata|Dey subrata]] (talk) 12:52, 10 September 2018 (UTC)
- @Dey subrata: Any proof that FIFA recognizes his goals? No. Because his goals is not recognized by FIFA. It may be recognized by other sources, but not FIFA. Babymissfortune 14:26, 10 September 2018 (UTC)
- Babymissfortune (talk) When three renowned journalist producing and recognised these figure, its indeed raising no question, it itself is proof, and I asked you, if you have any proof that goals are not recognised, this player played during 50s, FIFA is in its primary stage that time, datas are provided by journalist only. If your question is about recognition than its very confusing as if "do fifa seperately produce list of goals recognised for footballers"..can you give me a proof of Ali Dae's goal recognised or Kunishige Kamamoto's recognised or not, please provide me some proof. So far I know FIFA only recognise matches not footballer goals. I put my arguemnts with proof with two articles, but you did not produce any proof atleast for any of other footballers. Please reply with proof for those two footballers, let me see how FIFA recognise goals.
PBA templates
Babymissfortune Can you do the following? Please change the font color of Barangay Ginebra San Miguel from Yellow to White, change the dominant color of Columbian Dyip from Red to Dark Blue and change the dominant color of Phoenix Fuel Master from Orange to Red. Thanks. Gayviewmahat (talk) 22:24, 10 September 2018 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- When you added or edited a template with the visual editor the input boxes were very big. This has been fixed. The input boxes will now be smaller until you click on them. Then they will change size to fit the text. [52]
Problems
- Some diffs showed lines in the wrong order. This was fixed last week. [53]
- Marking a cross-wiki notification as read didn't work every time. The other wiki was not updated. This has now been fixed. [54]
<maplink>
did not work for a few days. This was because of a bug. This has now been fixed. [55]{{subst:REVISIONUSER}}
is used by some templates. For a period edits saved with{{subst:REVISIONUSER}}
would save the previous user's name and not your username. This is now fixed. Edits made before the bug was fixed will still be wrong and need to be corrected. [56]- When you move a page the title still shows the old page name. The developers are working on fixing this. [57]
Changes later this week
- Because of a data centre test you will be able to read but not edit the wikis for up to an hour on 12 September and 10 October. This will start at 14:00 (UTC). You might lose edits if you try to save during this time. The time when you can't edit might be shorter than an hour. You can read more about this.
- Because of the data centre test there will be no new version of MediaWiki this week. Changes for this week will come next week instead.
Meetings
You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 11 Septmber at 18:30 (UTC). See how to join.
You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 12 September at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- The developers work on making the wikis work better on mobile phones. There is a list of common problems when making content easier to read in the mobile view. You can add things to the page and ask others to help.
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22:35, 10 September 2018 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- The Wikimedia Commons mobile app has a new version. Images uploaded using Nearby are now automatically added to the associated Wikidata item. You can browse other images on Commons. You can see your achievements and your upload statistics. It has also fixed some bugs. [58]
MediaWiki web requests now have a time limit of 60 seconds for GET requests and 200 seconds for POST requests. [59]
Problems
- You could not see the menu on the notifications page on the mobile version. This has now been fixed. [60]
Changes later this week
- Special:AncientPages can hide disambiguation pages. [61]
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21:57, 17 September 2018 (UTC)
NPR Newsletter No.13 18 September 2018
Hello Dieter Lloyd Wexler, thank you for your work reviewing New Pages!
The New Page Feed currently has 2700 unreviewed articles, up from just 500 at the start of July. For a while we were falling behind by an average of about 40 articles per day, but we have stabilised more recently. Please review some articles from the back of the queue if you can (Sort by: 'Oldest' at Special:NewPagesFeed), as we are very close to having articles older than one month.
- Project news
- The New Page Feed now has a new "Articles for Creation" option which will show drafts instead of articles in the feed, this shouldn't impact NPP activities and is part of the WMF's AfC Improvement Project.
- As part of this project, the feed will have some larger updates to functionality next month. Specifically, ORES predictions will be built in, which will automatically flag articles for potential issues such as vandalism or spam. Copyright violation detection will also be added to the new page feed. See the projects's talk page for more info.
- There are a number of coordination tasks for New Page Patrol that could use some help from experienced reviewers. See Wikipedia:New pages patrol/Coordination#Coordinator tasks for more info to see if you can help out.
- Other
- A new summary page of reliable sources has been created; Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources/Perennial sources, which summarizes existing RfCs or RSN discussions about regularly used sources.
- Moving to Draft and Page Mover
- Some unsuitable new articles can be best reviewed by moving them to the draft space, but reviewers need to do this carefully and sparingly. It is most useful for topics that look like they might have promise, but where the article as written would be unlikely to survive AfD. If the article can be easily fixed, or if the only issue is a lack of sourcing that is easily accessible, tagging or adding sources yourself is preferable. If sources do not appear to be available and the topic does not appear to be notable, tagging for deletion is preferable (PROD/AfD/CSD as appropriate). See additional guidance at WP:DRAFTIFY.
- If the user moves the draft back to mainspace, or recreates it in mainspace, please do not re-draftify the article (although swapping it to maintain the page history may be advisable in the case of copy-paste moves). AfC is optional except for editors with a clear conflict of interest.
- Articles that have been created in contravention of our paid-editing-requirements or written from a blatant NPOV perspective, or by authors with a clear COI might also be draftified at discretion.
- The best tool for draftification is User:Evad37/MoveToDraft.js(info). Kindly adapt the text in the dialogue-pop-up as necessary (the default can also be changed like this). Note that if you do not have the Page Mover userright, the redirect from main will be automatically tagged as CSD R2, but in some cases it might be better to make this a redirect to a different page instead.
- The Page Mover userright can be useful for New Page Reviewers; occasionally page swapping is needed during NPR activities, and it helps avoid excessive R2 nominations which must be processed by admins. Note that the Page Mover userright has higher requirements than the NPR userright, and is generally given to users active at Requested Moves. Only reviewers who are very experienced and are also very active reviewers are likely to be granted it solely for NPP activities.
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Teams Deleted From 2019 Moto3 Season Page
Just wondering why you deleted the teams with no confirmed riders from the 2019 Moto3 season page.
The Provisional 2019 team entries lists for MotoGP, Moto2 and Moto3 were released on Friday. Admittedly, the IP User didn't provide a reference when they added the information in, but unlike a lot of the edits that happen at this time of year, it is actually official information.
As I am an IP User as well and the page has since been protected, I cannot undo your edit. So, I am asking if you would please re-instate the information.
Here is a link that you can use as a reference, so as to prevent somebody else deleting it again:
http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2018/09/21/provisional-2019-team-entries-released/272083
Thank you
86.140.121.226 (talk) 07:07, 23 September 2018 (UTC)
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Changes later this week
- The preferences form will change to use the standard look. If you see any problems please report them on Phabricator. [62]
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 25 September. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 26 September. It will be on all wikis from 27 September (calendar).
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15:22, 24 September 2018 (UTC)
The Signpost: 1 October 2018
- From the editor: Is this the new normal?
- News and notes: European copyright law moves forward
- In the media: Knowledge under fire
- Discussion report: Interface Admin policy proposal, part 2
- Arbitration report: A quiet month for Arbcom
- Technology report: Paying attention to your mobile
- Gallery: A pat on the back
- Recent research: How talk page use has changed since 2005; censorship shocks lead to centralization; is vandalism caused by workplace boredom?
- Humour: Signpost Crossword Puzzle
- Essay: Expressing thanks
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- Ordinary pages can no longer be loaded as javascript. You could do this using
?action=raw&ctype=text/javascript
in the URL. Only fully protected pages in the MediaWiki: namespace or user javascript subpages can be loaded as javascript now. This is for better security. [63][64]
Problems
- New and updated translations from translatewiki.net will not reach the wikis for a while. You can still translate messages on translatewiki.net. The Wikimedia wikis will be updated with the new translations later. This is because of work on the translation system. [65][66]
Changes later this week
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 2 October. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 3 October. It will be on all wikis from 4 October (calendar).
Meetings
You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 3 October at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.
- You can join the meeting with the Wikimedia Foundation Search Platform team. The meeting will be on 3 October at 15:00 UTC. See how to join if you want to know how the search function works or have questions.
Future changes
- Because of a data centre test you will be able to read but not edit the wikis for up to an hour on 10 October. This will start at 14:00 (UTC). You might lose edits if you try to save during this time. The time when you can't edit might be shorter than an hour. You can read more about this.
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17:34, 1 October 2018 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- The Education Program extension was removed from all Wikimedia projects. You can use the Programs and Events Dashboard or the Fountain instead. [67]
Problems
- There was a problem when you copied and pasted from a table with the visual editor. It could add
href
where it shouldn't be. This has now been fixed. [68]
Changes later this week
- Because of a data centre test you will be able to read but not edit the wikis for up to an hour on 10 October. This will start at 14:00 (UTC). You might lose edits if you try to save during this time. The time when you can't edit might be shorter than an hour. You can read more about this.
- Because of the data centre test there will be no new version of MediaWiki this week. Changes for this week will come next week instead.
Meetings
You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 10 October at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.
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23:38, 8 October 2018 (UTC)
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kobe paras went to school at CSUN. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.218.42.6 (talk) 21:53, 12 October 2018 (UTC)
- @12.218.42.6: Yes he did. But he did not play at least a game for the team that's why we do not include CSUN in his infobox. --Babymissfortune 01:11, 13 October 2018 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Problems
- Some pages, edits and users disappeared for a short while after the server switch. Missing content and users was fixed within a day. Some preferences and other things might take a few more days to fix. [69]
- Wikis are updated with new and updated translations from translatewiki.net again. This will happen once a week. The developers are working on fixing the problem so we can have translation updates more often again. [70]
Changes later this week
- When you create an abuse filter that prevents edits you can now write a specific error message for it. Before this all abuse filters that prevented edits had the same error message. [71]
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 16 October. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 17 October. It will be on all wikis from 18 October (calendar).
Meetings
- There will be no more meetings with the Editing team. This is because not enough Wikimedians were interested. To tell developers which bugs you think are the most important you can use Phabricator as normal. [72]
You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 17 October at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.
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22:40, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
NPR Newsletter No.14 21 October 2018
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Hello Dieter Lloyd Wexler, thank you for your work reviewing New Pages!
- Backlog
As of 21 October 2018[update], there are 3650 unreviewed articles and the backlog now stretches back 51 days.
- Community Wishlist Proposal
- There is currently an ongoing discussion regarding the drafting of a Community Wishlist Proposal for the purpose of requesting bug fixes and missing/useful features to be added to the New Page Feed and Curation Toolbar.
- Please join the conversation as we only have until 29 October to draft this proposal!
- Project updates
- ORES predictions are now built-in to the feed. These automatically predict the class of an article as well as whether it may be spam, vandalism, or an attack page, and can be filtered by these criteria now allowing reviewers to better target articles that they prefer to review.
- There are now tools being tested to automatically detect copyright violations in the feed. This detector may not be accurate all the time, though, so it shouldn't be relied on 100% and will only start working on new revisions to pages, not older pages in the backlog.
- New scripts
- User:Enterprisey/cv-revdel.js(info) — A new script created for quickly placing {{copyvio-revdel}} on a page.
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Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Changes later this week
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 23 October. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 24 October. It will be on all wikis from 25 October (calendar).
Meetings
You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 24 October at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- The Community Wishlist Survey begins on 29 October. The survey decides what the Community Tech team will work on. You can post proposals from 29 October to 11 November. You can vote on proposals from 16 November to 30 November.
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23:11, 22 October 2018 (UTC)
@Babymissfortune: birthplace
hi this is actually Jerramy King I want to change my birthplace because la Canada is not right, its Hollywood. It would be very nice if you could help me.
The Signpost: 28 October 2018
- From the editors: The Signpost is still afloat, just barely
- News and notes: WMF gets a million bucks
- In the media: Bans, celebs, and bias
- Discussion report: Mediation Committee and proposed deletion reform
- Traffic report: Unsurprisingly, sport leads the field – or the ring
- Technology report: Bots galore!
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- In focus: Alexa
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- Humour: Talk page humour
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Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- You can post proposals for the Community Wishlist Survey. The survey decides what the Community Tech team will work on. You can post proposals until 11 November. You can vote on proposals from 16 November to 30 November.
The wikis now have a content security policy report. This means that you might get a warning in your javascript console when you load external resources in your user scripts. For security reasons it is recommended that you don't do this. It might not be possible to load external resources in your scripts in the future. [73]
Problems
- Your watchlist can show which changes you have already seen. This did not work for a few days. It has been fixed. [74]
Changes later this week
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 30 October. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 31 October. It will be on all wikis from 1 November (calendar).
- The 2006 wikitext editor is no longer available. It will be removed from Special:Preferences. It has not been the standard editor for a long time. It was replaced by the 2010 wikitext editor. [75][76]
Meetings
You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 31 October at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.
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20:08, 29 October 2018 (UTC)
Editing News #2—2018
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Did you know?
Did you know that you can use the visual editor on a mobile device?
![Screenshot showing the location of the pencil icon](http://up.wiki.x.io/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f1/Mobile_editing_watchlist_star_editing_pencil.png/250px-Mobile_editing_watchlist_star_editing_pencil.png)
Tap on the pencil icon to start editing. The page will probably open in the wikitext editor.
You will see another pencil icon in the toolbar. Tap on that pencil icon to the switch between visual editing and wikitext editing.
![Toolbar with menu opened](http://up.wiki.x.io/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/aa/Visual_editing_mobile_switch_wikitext.png/250px-Visual_editing_mobile_switch_wikitext.png)
Remember to publish your changes when you're done.
You can read and help translate the user guide, which has more information about how to use the visual editor.
Since the last newsletter, the Editing Team has wrapped up most of their work on the 2017 wikitext editor and the visual diff tool. The team has begun investigating the needs of editors who use mobile devices. Their work board is available in Phabricator. Their current priorities are fixing bugs and improving mobile editing.
Recent changes
- The Editing team has published an initial report about mobile editing.
- The Editing team has begun a design study of visual editing on the mobile website. New editors have trouble doing basic tasks on a smartphone, such as adding links to Wikipedia articles. You can read the report.
- The Reading team is working on a separate mobile-based contributions project.
- The 2006 wikitext editor is no longer supported. If you used that toolbar, then you will no longer see any toolbar. You may choose another editing tool in your editing preferences, local gadgets, or beta features.
- The Editing team described the history and status of VisualEditor in this recorded public presentation (starting at 29 minutes, 30 seconds).
- The Language team released a new version of Content Translation (CX2) last month, on International Translation Day. It integrates the visual editor to support templates, tables, and images. It also produces better wikitext when the translated article is published. [77]
Let's work together
- The Editing team wants to improve visual editing on the mobile website. Please read their ideas and tell the team what you think would help editors who use the mobile site.
- The Community Wishlist Survey begins next week.
- If you aren't reading this in your preferred language, then please help us with translations! Subscribe to the Translators mailing list or contact us directly. We will notify you when the next issue is ready for translation. Thank you!
— Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 17:11, 1 November 2018 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- You can now use TemplateWizard to edit templates. This works only with the 2010 wikitext editor and not in the visual editor or the 2017 wikitext editor. If you click on
you can enter the information in a pop-up. You can turn on TemplateWizard in your beta feature preferences. [78]
Changes later this week
- You can choose to see edit conflicts in a two-column view. This is a beta feature. You can find it in your preferences. The interface for the two-column edit conflict will change. You can read more.
- When you edit with the visual editor you can use the "Automatic" citation tab. This helps you generate citations. You will now be able to write plain text citations or the title of a journal article or a book in this tab. This will search the Crossref and WorldCat databases and add the top result. [79]
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 6 November. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 7 November. It will be on all wikis from 8 November (calendar).
Meetings
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17:28, 5 November 2018 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- Some old mobile browsers can use the watchlist again. This has not worked for a while. These browsers are called grade C browsers. This helps for example Windows Phone 8.1 with Internet Explorer and Lumia 535 with Windows 10. [80]
Problems
- You can choose to see edit conflicts in a two-column view. This is a beta feature. You can find it in your preferences. Users who use this view saw the edit conflict resolution page when they wanted to see a preview. This has been fixed. [81][82][83]
Changes later this week
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 13 November. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 14 November. It will be on all wikis from 15 November (calendar).
Meetings
You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 14 November at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- You can use the content translation tool to translate articles. The developers are working on a new version. One of the changes will be a maintenance category. Articles where users add a lot of text from machine translation without changing it will be in that category. This is so the community can review it. The users will also have been warned before they publish the article that it has a lot of unchanged text from machine translations. [84]
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19:21, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
2019 Grand Prix Motorcycle season pages
Thank you for following my lead and updating the rider tables on the 2019 MotoGP season and 2019 Moto3 season pages. I could only do the 2019 Moto2 season page because the other 2 pages were semi-protected, so I am glad somebody else did it.
However, you have accidentally put Romano Fenati's name down twice in the Moto3 table. Fenati is listed (correctly) for the Snipers Team (or, "Team O" as they are now being called for some strange reason). However, he is also listed incorrectly for the RBA Team. It should be Makar Yurchenko that is listed listed for RBA (Yurchenko's number is already listed there).
Don't worry, I realise it was just an innocent mistake caused by copying and pasting too many things in a short space of time.
By the way, I'm not too sure about the first of the edits (revision 868964749) that TheriusRooney (talk) has done to the 2019 MotoE season page. To me, even though it is a one-make series, the tables look better with the constructor and motorcycle columns included. It's all about continuity with the other Motorcycle GP season pages.
The second edit (revision 868964829) which added the sentence above the table is fine, though.
Anyway, thank you for all the hard work you do on here.
86.133.77.116 (talk) 14:48, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
- @86.133.77.116: I've corrected the Moto3 error. In the other hand, IMO it's better to remove the redundant columns in the table so as to save space. They all use the same bike so there's no point to put the same bike per row. Look at 2018 FIA Formula 2 Championship#Entries; the "chassis" column is omitted. So I'm fine with it. Thanks to you as well. Babymissfortune 15:02, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
- @Babymissfortune:Aww. Thank you. It means a lot to have a well-regarded editor say that. (I have been a regular editor to the bike racing pages, but people just don't realise because my IP address keeps changing. I did register a long time ago, but they automatically changed the underscore that I wanted to be in my username into a space. So, I refused to use my account in protest).
- Thank you for fixing the mistake, and for sending me that link. I see now that other one-make series do not include those columns. I don't follow car racing apart from F1, so didn't have any reason to look at those pages. However, I do follow the MotoGP Rookies Cup, and I could have sworn that their Season pages included those columns, but when I checked there now I saw that they don't. Or, at least, they don't now.
- It was the narrowness of the table on the MotoE page that looked odd to me. But, it'll probably look better when the Rounds column is added once the season starts.
- Thank you
NPR Newsletter No.15 16 November 2018
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Hello Dieter Lloyd Wexler,
- Community Wishlist Survey – NPP needs you – Vote NOW
- Community Wishlist Voting takes place 16 to 30 November for the Page Curation and New Pages Feed improvements, and other software requests. The NPP community is hoping for a good turnout in support of the requests to Santa for the tools we need. This is very important as we have been asking the Foundation for these upgrades for 4 years.
- If this proposal does not make it into the top ten, it is likely that the tools will be given no support at all for the foreseeable future. So please put in a vote today.
- We are counting on significant support not only from our own ranks, but from everyone who is concerned with maintaining a Wikipedia that is free of vandalism, promotion, flagrant financial exploitation and other pollution.
- With all 650 reviewers voting for these urgently needed improvements, our requests would be unlikely to fail. See also The Signpost Special report: 'NPP: This could be heaven or this could be hell for new users – and for the reviewers', and if you are not sure what the wish list is all about, take a sneak peek at an article in this month's upcoming issue of The Signpost which unfortunately due to staff holidays and an impending US holiday will probably not be published until after voting has closed.
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African-American categories with no claim
Hi there, please do not add uncited ethnicity categories to biopgraphies, especially those of living people.TM 12:23, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- You can vote on proposals in the Community Wishlist Survey. The survey decides what the Community Tech team will work on. You can vote until 30 November.
There is an A/B test for
sameAs
data. This is to make it easier to find the right information with a search engine. This changes the metadata for a wiki page. It doesn't change how the page looks. [85]
Changes later this week
- There is no new MediaWiki version this week.
Meetings
You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 21 November at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- The Wikimedia wikis use templates to show readers there are problems with the content on some pages. For example if there are no sources or the page needs to be rewritten. The mobile website will soon show more information when you use these templates. Some templates may need to be updated. [86]
- The Education Program extension was removed from all Wikimedia projects. The database tables used by the extension will be archived. This will happen in a month. If you want the information on your wiki you should move it to a normal wiki page. [87]
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23:28, 19 November 2018 (UTC)
ArbCom 2018 election voter message
Hello, Babymissfortune. Voting in the 2018 Arbitration Committee elections is now open until 23.59 on Sunday, 3 December. All users who registered an account before Sunday, 28 October 2018, made at least 150 mainspace edits before Thursday, 1 November 2018 and are not currently blocked are eligible to vote. Users with alternate accounts may only vote once.
The Arbitration Committee is the panel of editors responsible for conducting the Wikipedia arbitration process. It has the authority to impose binding solutions to disputes between editors, primarily for serious conduct disputes the community has been unable to resolve. This includes the authority to impose site bans, topic bans, editing restrictions, and other measures needed to maintain our editing environment. The arbitration policy describes the Committee's roles and responsibilities in greater detail.
If you wish to participate in the 2018 election, please review the candidates and submit your choices on the voting page. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 18:42, 19 November 2018 (UTC)
Edited Changes in Danny Seigle's wikipedia page
Hello,
I am Danny Seigle's friend and administrator of his social media and online publication. I edited the title of Assistant Coach to Team Consultant which is ore accurate in the organization in Alab. Please note that he is currently being considered for a post so it is important that all channels about him are accurate. I noticed that you reverted back the edits I made. I hope to work with you and ask you to please do not change the edits I made.
If you wish to reach out to me, you can email me at rrcagurangan@yahoo.com.ph.
Regards,
Rac — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rrcagurangan (talk • contribs) 04:33, 21 November 2018 (UTC)
Update To 2019 Moto3 Provisional Entry List - New PDF
Hello, me again!
You know how I told you about the Provisional Entry List PDF being released by the FIM on 16th November. Well, I just discovered that an updated PDF was released the following day, 17th November. From what I can see, the only changes made were in the Moto3 table:
Dennis Foggia has changed number from #10 to #7 The RBA team is now known as "BOE Skull Rider Mugen Race"
So, could you make these changes to the table on the 2019 Moto3 season page, and also update the reference to show the new date and to point to this address:
http://www.fim-live.com/en/library/download/73394/no_cache/1/
(Sorry, I can't find a link to it that opens within the browser)
109.155.123.147 (talk) 10:56, 21 November 2018 (UTC)
Formula one constructors records
Hi, I think we were both editing the Constructors records page at the same time. I stopped when I noticed you were there too. Hope there was no crossover! Please feel free to let me know if unfinished. Best wishes, and keep up the good work, Bamkin (talk) 00:27, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
- @Bamkin: Well, actually there are some tables where you only updated the Mercedes' row but not the other constructors'. But I fixed it anyway. I also updated other tables that you have not updated yet. Thank you. Babymissfortune 00:30, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
- Good to hear. Great work. Bamkin (talk) 00:47, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- On wikis with translatable pages you could create a mess when you moved a page that had translatable subpages. A subpage is when you use
/
to create a new page:/wiki/Page/Subpage
. The subpages would be moved but not the translations. The subpages are no longer automatically be moved. This is to make it safer to move pages. [88]
Changes later this week
- The advanced search interface will be available by default on all Wikimedia wikis. It makes it easier to use some of the special search functions that most editors don't know exist. It's already active on German, Farsi, Arabic and Hungarian Wikipedia. [89]
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22:22, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
Please revert my edits immediately!
Hello Babymissfortune of Wikipedia. This is Danny Seigle again. For the record, (which i have stated in the help page already), My job position in Alab Pilipinas is Team Consultant (not assistant coach). I am making these corrections to ensure the information on my page is current, accurate and factual. Kindly acknowledge my edits and Please revert it back to my corrections. Anything that says "assistant coach" needs to be corrected to "Team Consultant".I have tried several times to explain via reps and myself why these edits are being done. Someone keeps editing my changes back to assistant coach which is false. I have never been an assistant coach for any team. What do i need to do to prove that I am a CONSULTANT and Not An Assistant coach? I hope that we can resolve this matter as soon as possible. Should you wish to verify my info, you may check the profile page on my twitter & instagram accounts(@dannyseigle42) wc state my job title. Further can i request to be unblocked. Thank you for your understanding!
- If you need to confirm my identity you can direct message me on my Instagram or twitter account: @dannyseigle42
Dannyseigle (talk) 10:55, 27 November 2018 (UTC)
- @Dannyseigle: Provide a realible source that he is indeed a consultant. Babymissfortune 11:16, 27 November 2018 (UTC)
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Hi Babymissfortune,
Thank you for your swift reply. Per your request here are three articles links from different publications as proof of my correct job title. I hope you find this sufficient enough, and can immediately revert my edits. So to clarify, anything that says assistant coach please change it to Team Consultant. The discrepancy is written in my page five times.
In addition "I led San Miguel to 7 championships (not 6) out of 8", this error is found in the first paragraph.
Respectfully,
Danny
https://www.philstar.com/sports/2018/04/18/1806972/danny-seigle-busy-new-role
https://fastbreak.com.ph/loaded-danny-seigle-joins-alapag-hontiveros-in-alab/
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Thank you Babymissfortune for editing my job description. :-) There are 2 more of those which you missed re: job title.
-under the (CAREER HIGHLIGHTS and AWARDS) tab. it says As Assistant coach : ABL Champion 2018. It should be “As Team Consultant : ABL Champion 2018”
-under (PBA CAREER) tab, (POST-PLAYING CAREER) section, it still says assistant coach which should be edited to “Team Consultant”.
-On the 1st paragraph of my page, it says i led San Miguel to six championships when the correct number is 7, out of a total of 8. So it should say “he led the San Miguel Beermen to seven championships out of a total of eight during his career.”
I apologize for constantly trying to reach you & other admins to make these edits. I would gladly do it myself but i am blocked and my page does not allow any edits at this time. It would be a lot easier if i could make these corrections myself so as not to bother the administrators. Is there anyway i may be given access again to edit? I hope you can sympathize that i only want the wikipedia page that is about me to be truthful and accurate. A lot of people look to wikipedia and it matters that the information on it is credible. Again, thank you for your patience and understanding.
Danny
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Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
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The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 11 December. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 12 December. It will be on all wikis from 13 December (calendar).
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17:33, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
Can Öncü WP page
Hi
As you can probably tell, I'm new to WP editing and still finding my feet. I inserted a flagicon before the nationality in the rider infobox for Can Öncü. I believe (correct me if I'm wrong) that you removed it and commented "We don't do that per WP:MOS". Can you point me to the section of MoS that is applicable, please (it's quite long and I cannot find it).
Then, in my own defence, I point to the pages for Kenny Roberts Jr, Valentino Rossi, Jorge Lorenzo, Marcos Ramírez, Jaume Masiá, Adam Norrodin etc that all show a flag of nationality.
Any and all advice to help me get on and understand the background of WP is welcome...I've just been gently told to sign entries, so I must remember to do so...and I'll try to learn as I go.
Thanks,
Bob PickleB (talk) 18:14, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
- @PickleB: See WP:INFOBOXFLAG. Thanks. Babymissfortune 02:19, 11 December 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for the pointer, Babymissfortune, and sorry to have found so many other pages that need similar editing.
Bob PickleB (talk) 19:29, 12 December 2018 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) FYI, PickleB, there is a convention on WP to deprecate the use of infoboxflags. However, many do not know, and others may choose to contravene the guidlelines, as it is not, strictly, policy. There is one exception that I know of, after a Talk/consensus (local to en wiki) some years ago, relating to F1 car racing; sometimes this crosses over to motorcycle racing, as with Mike Hailwood and John Surtees (can't think of anyone else?) You'll notice that the infoboxflag from John Surtees' article was removed in this 2017 change - presumably by someone who didn't know of the exception.
--86.29.222.228 (talk) 21:10, 13 December 2018 (UTC)
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I just wanted to replace broken link. This link followed to the 404 page — Preceding unsigned comment added by SergeyMPRO (talk • contribs) 12:41, 12 December 2018 (UTC)
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What are you talking about? It's a description of the article that is being linked to.
- Poppin (U.S. company) office furniture and supplies company
It is a US company that is a office furniture and office supplies company. how is this WP:PROMOTIONAL Information about companies and products must be written in an objective and unbiased style, free of puffery.? Where is the promotion?
If I called "21st Century Fox" a U.S. film studio, is that promotional language? It's simply a description.
-- 67.70.34.69 (talk) 10:58, 13 December 2018 (UTC)
- @67.70.34.69: Is the word "poppin" same as "popping"? Poppin is already included in Poppin' (there are other items there that are named "Poppin") so no need to also add it in Popping (disambiguation) . Babymissfortune 11:02, 13 December 2018 (UTC)
- I would say it is a likely incorrect cognition. In any case, it isn't a promotional entry, which is what this message chain is about. -- 67.70.34.69 (talk) 12:17, 13 December 2018 (UTC)
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Here is the reference and citation for the comment I posted on MSC Seaside.
I won't just post something that is not true. There are other MSC fleet with info without citations
https://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/dodgy-transactions-lead-to-arrests-of-4-sa-women-for-cocaine-smuggling-in-the-us-20181210 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Quavie (talk • contribs) 12:31, 13 December 2018 (UTC)
- @Quavie: Don't put it here; cite this in the article. Babymissfortune 12:36, 13 December 2018 (UTC)
NPR Newsletter No.16 15 December 2018
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Hi, I noticed that you deleted the information I added on Vice Ganda's article about her love life and future, but you never talked to me and explained why, so I was wondering if you could let me know the reason, so that I will understand where you're coming from and maybe I could fix it. Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Collegegirl123 (talk • contribs) 20:23, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
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IP 42.109.129.29 is repeating vandalism after third warning in Jomonte Suvisheshangal. Same person, only IP is different. His recent account [105] was blocked. Doing this on the page since two days. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2405:204:D28A:7D73:B130:E5D3:5ACC:2A0C (talk) 14:03, 24 December 2018 (UTC)
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My recent edits to Glomerulus (kidney)
Hello, you were asking me about my source but the sources I've used are the lectures at my university but all of what I stated in the add/edit is true. Mr jone (talk) 06:54, 31 December 2018 (UTC)
- @Mr jone: Please read WP:OR. Thanks. Babymissfortune 06:57, 31 December 2018 (UTC)
- I mean it's just drawn parallells between physiology and the kidney. Mr jone (talk) 07:01, 31 December 2018 (UTC)
- @Mr jone: What matters here is that you should be able to cite your source on your additions. Babymissfortune 07:04, 31 December 2018 (UTC)
- @Babymissfortune:Yeah you're right, found the source my professor used and I've now added it!
- @Mr jone: What matters here is that you should be able to cite your source on your additions. Babymissfortune 07:04, 31 December 2018 (UTC)
- I mean it's just drawn parallells between physiology and the kidney. Mr jone (talk) 07:01, 31 December 2018 (UTC)