User talk:Donald Albury
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[edit]I represent the Dunedin History Museum and the city historian. The reference link(s) to the first land grant and the incorporation of the city is from an old incorrect city of Dunedin page. The dates 1852 and 1925 are incorrect for the first land grant and the founding of the city.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.96.115.241 (talk • contribs) 15:10 4 August 2021 (UTC)
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[edit]In fact that editor has repeatedly refused to advise me of what the problem is. I'm surprised to hear that editor is an experienced editor as I had not seen need to check. Right off attempting to inject FRINGE political bias and going on to repeatedly demand I debate positions I don't hold is strange for an experienced editor. I have said several times that we can remove and change any parts of my added text and asked how he wants to do that: He still refuses to reply instead insisting on these debates. Invasive Spices (talk) 31 January 2022 (UTC)
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Florida tribes population size at first contact with Europeans
[edit]OK no problem. BTW, are there anywhere available population size estimates (at first contact with Europeans) for these Non-Timucua Florida tribes? Domen von Wielkopolska (talk) 18:38, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Domen von Wielkopolska: Population estimates in scholarly works are few and vague. Milanich (Florida Indians and the Invasion from Europe 1995) offers estimates of 50,000 Apalachee, 150,000 Timucua speakers in what is now Florida, and 150,000 others in central and southern Florida and the panhandle. He does not break that down further. Hann (Indians of Central and South Florida, 1513-1763 2003, p. 54) says,
The population of south Florida as a whole--and its individual components in the early sixteenth century and for much of the period down to that population's disappearance shortly after the middle of the eighteenth century--is as largely unknown as are the languages its peoples spoke.
Hann discusses population estimates for the Calusa. One conservative estimate is that the Calusa population was between 4,000 and 7,000, but Hann says that is probably far too conservative. Spanish sources give figures of 10,000 and 20,000 Calusa. Other Spanish reports vary widely. I am not aware of any such details about other peoples in southern and central Florida. With the exception of the Calusa, the peoples of south and central Florida were usually organized as simple chiefdoms. The chiefdoms around Tampa Bay were spaced about 15 miles apart, but, again, I am not aware of reliable population estimates for them.Luer, George M.; Marion M. Almy (September 1981). "Temple Mounds of the Tampa Bay Area". The Florida Anthropologist. 34 (3): 127–155. Donald Albury 21:52, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
The Mayaimi are not identical with the Guacata? Domen von Wielkopolska (talk) 18:40, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
- As I wrote on Talk:Mayaimi, I found no sources that said they were the same, and several reliable sources saying that Guacata was on the Atlantic Coast, or at least east of Lake Okeechobee, while Mayaimi was west of Lake Okeechobee. Donald Albury 21:56, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
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