User talk:CF-501 Falcon/sandbox2

Improvement

@CF-501 Falcon The thing here is that we should not lose the references mentioned in the lead section. If parts of lead are deleted, the references will be removed, and if the references are removed from the lead, it will be removed from the rest of the article. So, we need to save the references first. Warriorglance (talk) 15:04, 28 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Yep, I was thinking once this lead is good, we should go change each sentence or paragraph individually and retain the citations. Did you have another Idea? CF-501 Falcon (talk) 15:10, 28 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The Global Presence section is an absolute mess. Once we finish this lead, I'll try to clean that section up. CF-501 Falcon (talk) 15:16, 28 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Lead

I talked to Cullen328 and everything seems good. Once you look it over, I will start phasing it into the article. Cheers, CF-501 Falcon (talk) 18:34, 28 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@CF-501 Falcon It seems OK to me...You missed a bunch of references. Can you just wait 1 day to make changes to the article..I have to save the links of all those references...the updated lead looks fine, make sure to add wikilinks to it. You can start working on the next section 'Global presence'. I'll say when I complete my task.

Cheers! Warriorglance (talk) 14:03, 29 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds good! If you want you can edit this lead, so when I copy and paste it it will transfer all of the wikitext and citations over. CF-501 Falcon (talk) 15:34, 29 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@CF-501 Falcon Yeah.. I have saved the missing references... You can change the lead section in the article. Warriorglance (talk) 08:46, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Actually..what is the problem with the current lead section? I don't seem to find any serious differences with the sandbox either. Do you have any other ideas? Warriorglance (talk) 10:22, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

It was complex and talked about the history more than anything present day. Here are the changes I made: [1]. As for the sandbox comparison, I believe you might be comparing it to the new lead I wrote for the article. I rewrote but made sure to keep all relevant references.

The global presence section is a mess and I am trying to rewrite it. I am currently a little busy in real life though. Thank you, CF-501 Falcon (talk) 12:10, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@CF-501 Falcon Everybody has busy lives :) I think you misunderstood me..I was referring to your edit actually. I don't find a problem there. So, I think it's time to move on to 'Global presence'. The lead is almost perfect right? Thanks Warriorglance (talk) 14:19, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The thing is that..I'm kinda busy these days. So, please forgive me for not editing the article alongside you. Warriorglance (talk) 14:24, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, it should be good. It is fine, there is no pressure. CF-501 Falcon (talk) 16:17, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Do we need this anymore (the lead) ? CF-501 Falcon (talk · contribs) 01:47, 4 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I guess not..The lead is okay in the article. Warriorglance (talk) 02:31, 4 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Things to do

_{(Pinging @Warriorglance)}

The page is a list of things to do. Once, we finish that we have a few options. I recommend this order:

Cheers, CF-501 Falcon (talk · contribs) 00:49, 7 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@CF-501 Falcon All right 👍 If you wish, I can help you if you can tell me what should be improved..I'll try to do it when I get time..If you find problems with it, you can always revert my edits. But, I'll try not to make any :)

Cheers! Warriorglance (talk) 02:36, 7 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Warriorglance, I would love for you to help. Check the list in the page (User:CF-501 Falcon/sandbox2) for what should be done. Don't be too worried about making mistakes, We all make them. I will try to avoid reverting your entire edit, instead if there is something wrong I will just fix that.

Were you able to find a ref for the orders of deacon hood? Cheers, CF-501 Falcon (talk · contribs) 12:35, 7 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@CF-501 Falcon I found multiple references of an 'archdeacon'. That was really unexpected. Apparantly, a deacon who assists the bishop is called an 'archdeacon'. But sadly, I could not find any references on the 7 orders of deaconate. Will keep trying :) Warriorglance (talk) 13:59, 7 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Warriorglance, Thank you! CF-501 Falcon (talk · contribs) 14:32, 7 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Just asking, why did you remove 2 images of monastries? Is it for something? Regards, Warriorglance (talk) 01:03, 8 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

No problem. There were too many images, I felt it was unnecessary and cluttering. Cheers, CF-501 Falcon (talk · contribs) 01:29, 8 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I found a reference regarding deaconate. It is isbn:9780190635275. But the thing is that google books does not show the full content of this particular book, is there any way to gain access to this book?

Cheers!Warriorglance (talk) 07:41, 8 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Warriorglance I have put a request in the WikiProject Resource Exchange. I would suggest looking for other sources in the meantime. Good work! CF-501 Falcon (talk · contribs) 16:07, 8 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I just realized you are extended confirmed. You can access the Wikipedia Library. Check it out once you have time. CF-501 Falcon (talk · contribs) 16:08, 8 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@CF-501 Falcon I wish I could access the library..but sadly you require a 6 month old account to access it..You know what you are bout to be 6 months, and u will get the extended confirmed rights really soon. You have a better chance at accessing the library than me. Thanks for putting up a request btw!

Cheers! Warriorglance (talk) 05:51, 9 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Completely forgot about the six-month rule. I am extended-confirmed now! I think I reach 6 month in March.

You are welcome. Carpe diem, CF-501 Falcon (talk · contribs) 13:49, 9 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Check the request..we got what we wanted..Though it's kinda unexpected Warriorglance (talk) 09:52, 10 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, well. Let's roll with it. CF-501 Falcon (talk · contribs) 12:03, 10 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Jurisdiction of the Patriarchate

@Warriorglance, How should the dioceses and vicarates be displayed? We can use a table like Dioceses of the Syriac Orthodox Church has. Please tell me what you think. CF-501 Falcon (talk · contribs) 21:51, 12 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, that's fine. But, if you look at Catholic Church article, Full data about the dioceses is not given, it is given at a different article, Dioceses of Catholic Church. So, what do you feel? Do we need to include the full data or something else? Warriorglance (talk) 03:01, 13 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Warriorglance, The difference is that the Catholic Church article has 13608 words of readable prose size. The Syriac Orthodox Church article has 5443 words of readable prose size.

I say we list all of the dioceses and vicariates (with their respective head) in tables according to their region. CF-501 Falcon (talk · contribs) 16:25, 13 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah that was what I thought. Any way, table form is good. Warriorglance (talk) 23:12, 13 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Great, will keep going once I get time. Is there anything else I should add to the tables? CF-501 Falcon (talk · contribs) 00:56, 14 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Merge?

@Warriorglance, This is a far fetched idea. Would it make sense to merge the Jurisdiction of the Patriarch section in the Dioceses of the Syriac Orthodox Church into the new one we are writing? We wouldn't remove the other article entirely. Just something to think about. CF-501 Falcon (talk · contribs) 01:19, 14 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@CF-501 Falcon That is really a far fetched idea. But the thing is, The article would become too long for comfortable navigation. I think that is a criteria for GA nomination, is it? Warriorglance (talk) 01:41, 14 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

We will have to see. I meant just the now duplicate information. Either way Thank You. CF-501 Falcon (talk · contribs) 01:51, 14 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]