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This page is an archive of C12H22O11's talk page. Further comments should be made on my main talk page. No further edits should be made to this page.

This archive contains 25 discussions between the dates of 01 March 2006 and 22 May 2006. The views expressed here do not necessarily represent the actual opinions of anyone. - sucrose (C12H22O11)

Old messages on this talk page are archived at my talk archives:

IB userbox

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Thanks for rm'ing the IB logo from the userbox. I wasn't sure about the copyright myself, but since the image was uploaded already, I figured that had been dealt with. Evidently not. I'll work on fixing the colors and such later, but thanks for the heads up. --SuperNova 18:34, 1 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of International Baccalaureate schools

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I count 9 keeps, not 7. Besides, AFD isn't a vote, and I felt that the explanations given by the keep voters were good enough to merit a keep decision. Robert 17:26, 4 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It's okay :). It was a pretty borderline decision, so I understand why you would have called it a no consensus. Robert 17:35, 4 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Re:Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/New Zealand slang

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Back in November you signed this off by saying the "result of the debate was merge and redirect to New Zealand English", but that hasn't happened. I noted this as I was about to list the article for deletion a few minutes ago (not realising it had been listed previously). However, my reason for listing is that it is a definite copyvio from here. The copyright warning appears at the very bottom of this page. Comments? Moriori 20:15, 4 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Some Articles

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Can you help with Dhimmi , Jizya , Rules of war in Islam , People of the Book , & now Kafir. Its one user with a severe anti-Islamic POV , who is insistent on pushing his POV . F.a.y.تبادله خيال /c 13:13, 8 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Finland-Swedes & Finland

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The same anon. is back again after some weeks of hiatus, inserting his/her POV, and doing a minor edit after that, to cover up. Just so you know. --Janke | Talk 06:54, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

Today, the coverup was the edit summary itself: (I'm glad to finally see an accurate map, instead of propaganda). I agree about the map, though. The new one is better, the previous was just a quick fix I did to avoid a copyvio - not "propaganda", however! --Janke | Talk 14:10, 18 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Esperanza Newsletter, Issue #1

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Reach out is a program aimed at allowing users to bring issues that they have had in Wikipedia to a listening, sympathetic and caring audience:
"No one can know how we feel if we do not say. We cannot expect to get understanding if we do not ask for it. No one will dispute that sometimes life's issues are too much for one person. It is fair to say that sometimes Wikipedia's problems fall under the same heading. This is a place where you can bring the bruises that can sometimes be got on this project for attention."
The Stress alerts program aims at identifying users who are stressed, alerting the community of thier stress and works in tandem with the Stressbusters at trying to identify causes of stress and eliminating them.
Note from the editor
Welcome to this new format of the Esperanza Newsletter, which came about during the last Advisory Council meeting - we hope you like it! The major changes are that each month, right after the Council meeting, this will be sent out and will include two featured programs and a sum up of the meeting. Also, it will be signed by all of the Advisory Council members, not just Celestianpower. Have an Esperanzial end of March, everyone!
  1. Future meetings are to be held monthly, not fortnightly as before.
  2. Bans and Access level changes (apart from autovoice) in the IRC channel are to be reported at the new log.
  3. In the IRC channel, there is going to be only one bot at a time.
  4. The charter requires members to have 150 edits and 2 weeks editing. Why this is the case will be clarified.
  5. A new Code of Conduct will be drafted by JoanneB and proposed to the Esperanza community.
  6. The NPA reform idea is to be dropped officially.
  7. Charter ammendments are to be discussed in future, not voted on.
  8. The Advisory Council is not going to be proposed to be expanded by the Advisory Council themselves, if others want to propose it, they will listen.
Signed...

Esperanza Newsletter #2

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The Barnstar Brigade is a new program aimed at giving more very deserving yet unappreciated users barnstars. It will officially start on 2006-04-09, but signing up is encouraged before this date:
"Here in Wikipedia, there are hundreds of wikipedians whose work and efforts go un-appreciated. One occasionally comes across editors who have thousands of good edits, but because they may not get around as much as others, their contributions and hard work often go un-noticed. Sadly, these editors often leave the project. As Esperanzians, we can help to make people feel appreciated, be it by some kind words or the awarding of a Barnstar. A project the size of Wikipedia has thousands of editors, so there are plenty of people out there who deserve recognition, one just has to find them. The object of this program is not to flood editors with Barnstars, but to seek out people who deserve them, and make them feel appreciated."
The Stress alerts program aims at identifying users who are stressed, alerting the community of thier stress and works in tandem with the Stressbusters at trying to identify causes of stress and eliminating them.
Information
Welcome to the second issue of the new format Esperanza Newsletter - we hope you still like it! This week, it was delivered diligently by our new dogsbody. MiszaBot (run by Misza13): any execution complaints should go to him. Content comments should be directed at the Esperanza talkpage. Thanks!
  1. The next elections: Approval voting as before and, also as before, an previous leadership member can run. Please submit your name for voting in the relevant section of this page. Voting starts on 2006-04-23 and ends on 2006-04-30. There will be three places up for grabs as KnowledgeOfSelf is leaving Wikipedia. Please see the previously linked page for full details.
  2. The Code of Conduct is now ready for extensive discussion! Specific comments should go to the Code of Conduct talk page, discussion of having one at all should be directed to the main Esperanza talk page.
  3. The current process for accepting proposals for new programs has been deemed fine. All Advisory Council members and the Admin Gen are to endevour to be bold when viewing discussion. If they feel that consensus has been reached, they will act accordingly.
A plea from the editor...
The propsed programs page is terribly underused! Please leave any comments, good or bad, on the page, to help us determine the membership's thoughts on the ideas there.
Signed...

Old Skool Esperanzial note

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Since this isn't the result of an AC meeting, I have decided to go Old Skool. This note is to remind you that the elections are taking place now and will end at 23:50 UTC on 2006-04-29. Please vote here. Thanks. --Celestianpower háblame 20:42, 23 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

IB exams

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Good luck with your exams, only a few hours left now (depending on your subjects and where you live)! -Obli (Talk)? 20:09, 1 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, stupid Swedish school system being one year slower :\ -Obli (Talk)? 15:29, 4 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome again

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Welcome back. You missed my successful RFA, but I did e-mail you to let you know as you requested, so don't blame me! Glad to see you are returning. Happy editing! Prodego talk 19:07, 4 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hope things get better for you!
Since you haven't had a very happy welcoming, have a Wikihug! ;-) Good luck, Prodego talk 20:13, 9 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

CSD Tags

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All of the CSD templates clearly state, "do not remove this notice from pages that you have created yourself." The whole purpose of the {{hangon}} template is to allow the page creator's an opportunity to validate a reason for the page's existance. If page creators can remove speedy deletion tags, than there is no reason for the {{hangon}} template, and every CSD template needs to be changed as well. --Hetar 00:40, 5 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Warning for conduct on deletion review

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Warning: Please do not add obscenities to Wikipedia. Injecting unnecessary profanities, racially or sexually abusive comments, or provocative pictures to articles or user pages offends many people. Wikipedia treats such actions as vandalism and blocks people from editing for such repeated vandalism. Brownman40 23:05, 6 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
WP:DRV is not an article or a user page. - ulayiti (talk) 23:07, 6 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
It is a project page, and the same rules for unnecessary obscenity apply. Brownman40 23:17, 6 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
There isn't a policy on obscenity as far as I know, and the template only mentions articles and user pages. Wikipedia is not censored. Besides, I was just mostly pasting the content of the article. Do you mean I should have left out the naughty words? - ulayiti (talk) 23:20, 6 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Not the naughty words of the article content, but the naughty words of "endorse the motherfucking deletion". Brownman40 23:27, 6 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

WP is not censored, but adding unnecessary profanities are. Saying endorse the motherfucking deletion is an attack, plain and simple. You could have simply said endorse the deletion. Brownman40 23:39, 6 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't make that template. Brownman40 23:47, 6 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Because English (specifically American English) isn't your first language, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt here, but the obsenity you used and the context in which you used it is most definately a personal attack on the original creator of the article. That sort of usage is unacceptable here on WP.--WilliamThweatt 02:51, 7 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

    • Allow me to butt in here... If someone writes "Don't vote for motherfucking Hillary because of the motherfucking snakes..." (or whatever it was) in an article, they invite the recitation of their own words as evidence against them. Ulayiti's use was in keeping with reciprocity. Furthermore, since "motherfucking" appeared in the article so many times, more than any other word, the article was, in a sense, literally a "motherfucking article" (that is, it seems to have been composed more for the use of that word than for any other purpose.) To describe it as a "motherfucking article" is thus, in this special circumstance, an objective comment on its content, and not a subjective attack.
    • In short, if one vandalizes WP with a new page called Astrofoo, the entire content of which is the word "motherfucking" repeated eighty times, one cannot be offended at the objective description of it as a "motherfucking article", for (as a matter of fact) that clearly describes accurately the purpose of the vandalism. Best wishes, Xoloz 17:23, 7 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Great to see you back!!

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Your sanity, calmness, and fairness has been sorely missed! :) Best wishes, Xoloz 17:23, 7 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Esperanza Newsletter, Issue #3

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The Administrator Coaching program is a program aimed at preparing Wikipedians for Adminship or helping them understand the intricacies of Wikipedia better. Recently, changes have been made to the requirements of coachees. Please review them before requesting this service.
This would be something like the Welcoming Committee, but for people who have figured out the basics of editing articles; they're not newcomers any more, but they might want some help in learning new roles. Some might like suggestions about how to learn vandal patrol, or mentoring on taking an article to featured status, or guidance with a proposal they plan to make at the Village Pump, for example. In this way, Esperanza would help keep hope alive for Wikipedia because we would always be grooming the next generation of admins.
The Stressbusters are a subset of Esperanza aiming to investigate the causes of stress. New eyes on the situation are always welcome!
Note from the editor
As always, MiszaBot handled this delivery. Thank you! Also, congratulations go to Pschemp, Titoxd and Freakofnurture for being elected in the last elections! An Esperanzial May to all of the readership!
  1. Posting logs of the Esperanza IRC channel are explicitly banned anywhere. Violation of this rule results in deletion and a ban from the channel.
  2. A disclaimer is going to be added to the Esperanza main page. We are humans and, as such, are imperfect.
  3. Various revisions have been made to the Code of Conduct. Please see them, as the proposal is ready to be ratified by the community and enacted. All members will members to have to re-confirm their membership after accepting the Code of Conduct.
  4. Referendums are to be held on whether terms of AC members should be lengthened and whether we should abolish votes full stop.
  5. Admin Coaching reform is agreed upon.
Signed...

Rapcore etc

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  1. User_talk:LUCPOL is my page, editing and erase - my will.
  2. Rapcore - end edit war.
  3. Removing your post.
  4. To frighten lay off (frighten - block).

Coldly Goodbye. LUCPOL 19:43, 9 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Your administrator? Your infringe on rudiments. User_talk:LUCPOL is my page, editing and erase - my will. Forward criminal case other administrators. Get lost! LUCPOL 20:04, 9 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm excited. Never again. Get lost! LUCPOL 20:07, 9 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I changed the block to 24 hrs on this user, (s)he says (s)he'll stop. Re-block if necessary. Prodego talk 21:26, 9 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Speaking of Rapcore, I see that you gave a warning to User:85.18.14.4 about his edits on his talk page. Instead of editing rapcore, he insists on going to the Dog Eat Dog article and adding rapcore to the info box, while elminating every other style the he personally doesn't agree with. On top of that, he's decided to start making insults in his summaries, that, while inaccuarte, are not necessary. JohnBWatt 18:52, 12 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

User:SledDogAC

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Not sure how you established this user was a sockpuppet. She is clearly posting primarily under this account. That notice on her user page was unwarranted. ℬastique▼parℓer♥voir♑ 20:19, 9 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Never mind... I saw the User:Helpssleddogs.org account. I'll tell her to use one account from now on. ℬastique▼parℓer♥voir♑ 20:21, 9 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

series two records article.

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it was deleted, what can i do to keep it? theres direct links to the site, and i am the webmaster of the company. what more notability is needed? Bm13084 20:49, 9 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Series Two Records

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It contains the same information that any other record label had out that i looked up. deep elm records and saddle creek records. Bm13084 21:00, 9 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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How is classified copyrighted material if, I, the webmaster wrote it and want to use it on Wiki? — Preceding unsigned comment added by C7movieman (talk • contribs)

IB Advice

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Sorry 'bout that. I'll se about one at wikibooks. R'nway 14:47, 13 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Fortumin pääkonttori

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Mitä Fortumin pääkonttori tekee luokassa Category:Buildings and structures in Helsinki, kun se kerran on Espoossa, joka on ihan eri kaupunki? JIP | Talk 09:50, 17 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Metropolian Katowice

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I come from Metropolian Katowice. I know - Metropolian Katowice is "city area" (Polish: obszar miejski). Proof of truth - http://pl.wiki.x.io/wiki/Górnośląski_Związek_Metropolitalny.

please reconsider your vote on the AFD

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Check out my comments on the golden age hip hop afd for an explanation why. Thanks, --Urthogie 17:58, 20 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Lordi!

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I'm unsure whether the following article has the consent of the author but the wikipedia page [[1]] is an exact copy of this page [[2]].

Surely this is not right? There is no reference to the web page in any part of the article, and if it is found that it is reproduced with the orginal authors consent, surely this should be recognised? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 143.210.106.46 (talk • contribs) 10:20, 22 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]


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