User talk:Blankuser
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blankuser (talk) 10:59, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
CUSU LGBT
[edit]You removed the notability tag on the CUSU LGBT Campaign article. I am not sure why. As far as I can see your recent edits have not demonstrated the notability of the organisation under discussion. Nor have you indicated on the talk page why you think I was wrong to question the notability of the subject of the article. I do not believe that ordinary users are supposed to remove tags like that, perhaps especially when you are the original creator of the article. Please wait until some consensus has been achieved.--Oxonian2006 (talk) 21:00, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
- copied from CUSU LGBT talk page
Blankuser makes a number of inaccurate assumptions about my motivations. First, even if it is not stated explicitly the implication can definitely be inferred that he or she believes that I am (a) a Christian or at the very least in sympathy with OICCU, (b) homo-/trans-phobic and/or probably not myself lesbian, gay, bisexual, or transgender. He or she is completely wrong about both matters. I am not a Christian. I am a completely lapsed Catholic and a former theology student, and therefore have ample reason to be, personally, strongly out of sympathy with OICCU. Blankuser may or may not know that Catholics very seldom have any involvement in Christian Unions, which are generally conservative Evangelical organisations whose members are not infrequently hostile to the Catholic faith. Even before I ceased to be a Christian I, like many other Christians, was unable to belong to OICCU because I never accepted the doctrine of substitutionary penal atonement, which I have always found a grotesque misrepresentation of the Christian faith. I'd prefer not to be too specific, but I am now, or was at one time, two or three out of lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender. I once even went to an Oxford LGBT event. Many of my friends are gay and I frequently go to gay venues in London such as First Out, The Village, and The Yard. Blankuser seems to have failed to notice my mention of the article on OutRage!, which I view as an organisation of considerable importance in contemporary and historical gay activism. I was in fact present many years ago at an OutRage! demonstration at Southwark Cathedral which took place during a Eucharist being attended by the Primates of the Anglican Communion. So, I am not a Christian and I don't disagree with anything to do with the LGBT campaign.
On the point about my having illustrated by argument using examples from Oxford, this was in no way advertising or vanity. It is simply that Oxford is the university with which I am most familiar. Had I been an undergraduate at Cambridge I'm sure I should have been more familiar with Cambridge and would naturally have given Cambridge examples. You will find that this even occurs in academic writing. Bill Newton-Smith, the logician from Balliol, tends to illustrate his lectures with statements like, 'Andrew Graham is the Master of Balliol.' I even think that Tony Honoré has done this in one of his books on Roman law, saying something like, 'Just as an Oxford man will give an Oxford example, so a Gallic man gives an example from Gaul.' That is not the quotation, but it is something like that.
The OICCU article is a good example of a student organisation with historical significance both within the university and in the wider world. It describes a history of nearly 130 years since its establishment in its present constitution and of over 140 years since its origins and relates its foundation to the founding of the Christian Union at Cambridge and to the changing faces of Anglicianism in the university in the nineteenth century. OICCU is connected with other important Christian organisations including the Student Christian Movement, the Oxford Groups, and Moral Re-Armament. Frank Chavasse (principal of Wycliffe Hall, bishop of Liverpool, and founder of St Peter's), J.I. Packer (one of the most influential Evangelical theologians of the twentieth century), Michael Green (famous Anglican evangelist and close collaborator with George Carey), Tom Wright (fourth most senior bishop in the Church of England and distinguished New Testament scholar) were all influenced by OICCU. The significance of OICCU is reflected in the number of published sources cited at the end of the article. The CUSU-LGBT article does not make claims for historical significance on anything like this scale.
My question about the article is simply that it does not explain why the organisation is important enough to have an article here. It merely seems to be a description of the organisation's activities. It is brief and perfunctory and does not make any claim to being anything more than a student organisation. I am a great fan of the Oxford University History Society but I would not create an article for it on Wikipedia. I do not think it has sufficient importance beyond Oxford, or even within Oxford, to merit an article here. As I said before, no other British student LGBT organisation appears to have an article on Wikipedia. Is the Cambridge LGBT campaign more noteworthy than the campaigns that are undoubtedly run at every other university in the UK? A few student LGBT organisations are more important. For example, the Association of Nordic LGBT Student Organizations. It has a presence in six countries and was, according to the article, responsible for the first gay pride event in the Faroe Islands, and maintains links with national and international governmental bodies. Forty-one years ago Columbia Queer Alliance became the first LGBTQ student organisation in the world and it therefore has historical significance and had an impact on the life of LGBTQ students far beyond Columbia University. The CUSU organisation makes no such claims.--Oxonian2006 (talk) 16:05, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
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