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NorthBySouthBaranof (talk) 07:39, 14 June 2020 (UTC)

Vietnam-era veteran

I invite you to read the cited sources and the law. Just as anyone who serves on active duty in the Army today is considered a Gulf War-era veteran (regardless of whether or not they are ever deployed to Iraq or Afghanistan), Phillips is considered a Vietnam War-era veteran by dint of his active-duty service during the Vietnam War. Obviously, he is not a Vietnam veteran, and our article clearly and correctly makes that distinction. NorthBySouthBaranof (talk) 07:41, 14 June 2020 (UTC)

Specifically: The term "covered veteran" means any of the following veterans: ... (ii) Veterans who served on active duty in the Armed Forces during a war or in a campaign or expedition for which a campaign badge has been authorized. Phillips served on active duty in the Armed Forces during the Vietnam War. This is further explained in this source, which discusses The statute and regulations define an "active duty wartime" veteran as a veteran who served on active duty in the U.S. military during a war. Title 38, the title of federal statutes where VEVRAA is located, defines "period of war" as including World War II, the Korean conflict, the Vietnam era, and the Persian Gulf War, which is defined as August 2, 1990, to the present. Therefore, a veteran who served on active duty during any of those periods (and was not dishonorably discharged) is an "active duty wartime" veteran under VEVRAA. NorthBySouthBaranof (talk) 07:45, 14 June 2020 (UTC)

June 2020

Please stop adding unreferenced or poorly referenced biographical content, especially if controversial, to articles or any other Wikipedia page, as you did at Nathan Phillips (activist). Content of this nature could be regarded as defamatory and is in violation of Wikipedia policy. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Several of the sources you are using are unreliable; all of them make questionable, dubious, misleading, or false statements about what Phillips has said about himself. Please review WP:BLP and WP:RS, and open a discussion on the talk page rather than revert-warring potentially-defamatory material into a Wikipedia biography. Thank you. NorthBySouthBaranof (talk) 08:16, 14 June 2020 (UTC)

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you could look into this yourself, but we both know your not interested in that

I suggest you read this Snopes article, which is a quite interesting discussion of how the media twisted Phillips' statements and extrapolated words which he did not say; many reporters erroneously assumed Phillips said he served in Vietnam, when he had not. Similarly, the "recon ranger" statement was, in context, discussing his interpretation of what he did during the Dakota Access Pipeline protests at Standing Rock - he never said that he served in the military as a "recon ranger." Just as many in the media jumped to conclusions about the students in D.C., they also jumped to some conclusions about Phillips. Unfortunate on all sides. NorthBySouthBaranof (talk) 08:23, 14 June 2020 (UTC)

hello, I read the snopes article, it is interesting, but I have proof of Nathan Philips saying he was a Vietnam vet. Here is the proof of Nathan Philips saying he was a Vietnam vet - Nathan Philips saying so himself. Here is Nathan Philips quoted as saying "You know, I’m from Vietnam times. I’m what they call a recon ranger. That was my role. So I thank you for taking that point position for me.” Maybe you're right that he was saying it as what he did during the Dakota Access Pipeline protests at Standing Rock, but its easy to see it the other way around, since he said it immediately after talking about the Vietnam war era. --2001:8003:59DB:4100:B442:FCB8:97B9:31FF (talk) 09:01, 14 June 2020 (UTC)

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