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Re:Warning templates

Hi DisturbedNerd999 - anyone can use the templates, but given your recent circumstances I'd go easy on them (leave the heavier duty ones - level 3 and above - to others). There's a full list of them, with info, at Wikipedia:Warning_templates. You don't have to use things like Huggle (though it helps) - they can be inserted manually. There is a WikiProject (WP:UW) associated with it where more questions can be asked, but I'm pretty sure they're more involved in standardising all the templates used rather than actually using them (which makes sense - they're used when you see bad editor activity - it's not the thing a WikiProject would deliberately search for). Hope that helps.

As to my "non-article", it was more an exercise in writing what a Wikipedia article on me would be like (after I noticed that a lot of things coming up for deletion seemed to be a far less notable that - as objectively as possible - I think I am) A real article wouldn't mention Wiki editing, so my non-article didn't either :) Grutness...wha? 01:28, 13 January 2009 (UTC)


Please feel free to dismount from your high horse. Since you don't seem to know, checkuser refers to the IPs used by accounts, and sockpuppetry refers to one person using multiple accounts. Since I don't have an account and my IP is laid bare, this makes no sense vis-a-vis me. I have multiple IPs because I don't have a net connection of my own and use cafes and the like. Are you threatening to ban them all? Okay, whatever. Also, I answered the "removing" accusation elsewhere, but since you seem to know everything about this case you surely know that. Right? 67.42.2.70 (talk) 05:02, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

By the way, if you want to respond to me, using the IP's talk is not a good way. It so happens I was on the same IP as before and saw your note, but this cannot be relied on. 67.42.2.70 (talk) 05:03, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the help. RafaelRGarcia (talk) 00:32, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

Re:Multiple IPs

Hi DisturbedNerd999 - no, you can't really call that sockpuppetry. Unfortunately some internet links rotate between several IPs automatically, and there's nothing the editor in question is doing that is causing the change of address (my own ISP rotates between several). In this sort of instance, the best thing to do is to deal with the article rather than the anon - try to talk it out with them on the article's talk page and/or request protection of the article (which I see has happened). The long term solution will, IMO, probably be to have the page semi-protected so that only editors with usernames can edit it. Then if the same sort of controversial edits occur it will be obvious who's doing it and they can be dealt with accordingly. Grutness...wha? 00:52, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

if he does create a user account and continues to add controversial edits to the article, could he then be accused of sockpuppetry? - not really, otherwise any new user who'd previously edited as an anon could be (if he registered with two different user names, of course, it would be a different matter). But if he registers as a user it'll be far easier to keep his editing etiquette in check (he won't be able to evade things like the three revert rule, for instance. Thanks for the heads-up, though - I've suggested to the person who protected the article that semi-protecting it (so that registered users can edit it but anon IPs can't) may be the best solution. Grutness...wha? 02:32, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

Requesting Images for Deletion

{{helpme}}I already know the three methods of requesting article for deletion (speedy deletion, proposed deletion, and Articles for Deletion). But, I wouldn't think these same methods could be used for requesting that an image that is not needed be deleted. What are the methods for requesting an image for deletion? If possible, please also list any policies about image deletion.--DisturbedNerd999 21:18, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

There are speedy deletion options under WP:CSD for Images. Images for Deletion covers most else.
For images, the most important two are WP:IMAGE and WP:NFCC. Explore from there. NuclearWarfare (Talk) 21:24, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

Talkback!

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I hate to be rude, but you clearly have no idea what you're talking about and so should not be involving yourself in others' disputes until you do. The page is fully protected, which means no one (not even accounts) can edit it. And I know you can't ban IPs yourself, but you threatened to have someone do it for you. This is futile, as I use Internet cafes, so you'd have to ban all of them in the world. Though, if I took your advice and got an account I could be banned. Anyway, your threat to "show the admins" is silly, as an admin already got involved, which is (obviously) how the article got protected. The admin did not find my behavior "unconstructive" and chose for that reason to not merely semi-protect it. And again they cannot "find out" it's from the same person, as that is done via IPs. I have justified my edits at length on the talk page. You are brandishing empty threats when you have no clue what's going on or how anything works. So, really, mind your own business. 67.42.2.70 (talk) 02:14, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

The Night (Disturbed Song)

Hi, thanks for the message, I have protected the redirect as you suggest. I'm happy to unprotect one of the redirects at such time as the song is released as a single and meets WP:MUSIC. Just let me know. --Malcolmxl5 (talk) 23:47, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

Disturbed

As I have some early 2000s Guitar World issues, I could probably help you if you need it in regards to that time period. I definitely have at least one article on the band from around the time the first album came out. Just let me know what you're looking for. WesleyDodds (talk) 05:20, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

I've only skimmed the article so far, but it was the narrow scope of references used that drew my attention to the main deficiencies of the article. While from a brief perusal the article looks decent, the lack of comprehensiveness is a big stumbling block for the article and one that needs to be addressed above all else. From personal experience, I will not take an article to FAC until I am sure I have tracked down the major sources of information on a subject, be it in web, book, or magazine form. For example, I can't bring Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness to FAC yet because I'm not sure I've tracked down all the resoruces available. In contrast, what allowed me to make R.E.M. a Featured Article was using a combination of libraries, used book stores, and Google Book Search to track down every book written on the band. WesleyDodds (talk) 06:20, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
No problem. Another thing I'd suggest is if you're a member of any Disturbed message boards or web groups, ask around and see if anyone has any magazine articles on the band. People can be quite willing to help out. Also, have you asked for assisstance tracking down resources on the WikiProject Metal talk page? If not, do so. WesleyDodds (talk) 06:59, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
If someone can help you there, they will. They won't refuse to help you because you aren't a project member. WesleyDodds (talk) 07:17, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
By the way, you should check out Helmet if you haven't already. Really the forefathers of the rhythmic riffing sound utilized by so many nu metal bands like Disturbed. WesleyDodds (talk) 07:26, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

New members are always welcomed. What alternative rock artists are you interested in? WesleyDodds (talk) 03:23, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

See if you like these: Dinosaur Jr, Afghan Whigs, Bauhaus, and Radiohead. WesleyDodds (talk) 04:17, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Indestructible (Disturbed album)

Oh, sorry, I completely missed the discussion of the nomination itself, and have been busy over the weekend. Cheers Prophaniti (talk) 08:39, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

Indestructible (Disturbed album)

Oh wow, thanks for reminding me. I have been busy with finding a job and the featured article just seemed to have slipped my mind. DisturbedTim90 (talk) 20:58, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

Sidi Said

It seems to be a hoax on the French wikipedia. ~EDDY (talk/contribs/editor review)~ 00:53, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

Good thing you caught it. Back in March I was simply importing information from fr. and then forgot about it. Do you know of a speedy tag in French? ~EDDY (talk/contribs/editor review)~ 01:11, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

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Can't Log In

{{helpme}}I'm having trouble logging into any of my accounts (especially DisturbedNerd999) for some reason, which is why I am posting this as an IP user. I recently requested a user name change, but I haven't been renamed yet. I am also sure that I am typing in my password correctly, as something different different happens when I don't. When I do type in my password correctly, it says that I successfully logged in, but then when I go to edit a page, it doesn't think I'm logged in and it treats me as an IP. When I don't type in my password correctly, it never says that I'm logged in, but rather says that I have the wrong username or password. I also tried to log in from my alternative account (BlurryNStupified), but I get the same problem. How do I fix this?--65.8.12.44 (talk) 20:57, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Nevermind, I resolved it.--DisturbedNerd999 22:56, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Re:WikiPeace

Thank you for the kind sentiments - I'm flattered :) Yes, I'm alive, though not operating at full strength for the time being at least. I'll still be on WP, but steering clear of contentious areas for some time and taking it easy. Grutness...wha? 22:51, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

Hi again - you wrote: When requesting a new user name, Kingturtle was concerned about my abuse of multiple accounts. So, I mentioned my promises of not sockpuppeting anymore, and mentioned that my sock puppets and sock puppetry case would follow me. In order to keep my promises and show that I am honest in my actions, I may have to do this.
It may be a good idea. Perhaps, given that I'm less active than normal hhere at the moment (and don't have much to do with sockpuppetry cases), the best person to ask may be Kingturtle? He seems to be willing to accept your word at WP:CHU, and - as a bureaucrat - he'd certainly have quite a bit of experience with cases like this. Grutness...wha? 00:06, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
(PS - re your talkpage header, it's spelt "indefinite" ;) Grutness...wha?

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Thank you SoxBot II. :-)--DisturbedNerd999 03:43, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

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Sorry I didn't respond earlier, I was taking a month-long break from all wikis. Thanks for the tip anyways.--DisturbedNerd999 20:25, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
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RE: "The Night"

Pay a little more attention to the text on that hyperlink. There are a few problems with it. I will list them out.

1. It clearly states, "All articles on albums, singles or songs must meet the basic criteria at the notability guidelines, with significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject." Even if the single was released, and has charted, that still does not constitute "significant coverage" in reliable sources (Blabbermouth is currently the only source).

2. To be more direct, the statement you were referring to has its own problems, "Songs that have been ranked on national or significant music charts, that have won significant awards or honors or that have been performed independently by several notable artists, bands or groups are probably notable." Yes, the song has ranked on music charts. That means it may be notable. In other words, it is saying that it may be notable if it's charted, but that alone does not imply notability.

It is not that the song hasn't been confirmed as a single and released -- it has. However, the song lacks the media coverage needed to imply notability. I have faith that it will attain the needed goal, but for now it does not. Put simply, it's not notable enough yet. --The Guy complain edits 02:21, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

My Recent AfD

{{adminhelp}} Hello admins. I'm a bit confused about something concerning my most recent listing at AfD. I had nominated Make It and Movin' Out (Aerosmith song) in a bundle nomination at AfD yesterday (over 24 hours ago) and properly listed them. They are both tagged with the same AfD notice and the discussion page for their AfD is the exact same one (Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Make It). The thing that I was wondering is if anyone knew that they were listed, as no one else seems to have participated in the discussion. This also appears to be the only AfD from yesterday that no one else besides the nominator has participated in. If no one does participate in the discussion during the next now four days (it was nominated over 24 hours ago), would it need to be relisted? If so, how would that happen? Thank you in advance for taking your time to respond to this.--DisturbedNerd999 23:05, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

It's not unusual for an AfD to go without comment for the first couple days, especially mass nominations like that one. If there aren't enough comments to form a reasonable consensus, it'll be relisted after the seven days by whoever goes through to close the other discussions. I wouldn't worry about it, it's not a huge deal and nothing you need to be concerned about. Hersfold (t/a/c) 23:10, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
Thank you for your reply. I just recently placed an AfD warning on both article author's talk pages, but by looking at their contributions the author of Make It hasn't been on in about three weeks, and the author of Movin' Out (Aerosmith song) hasn't been active in over a year (14 months to be exact). Anyways, thanks for the help.--DisturbedNerd999 23:24, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

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Thank you for supporting me in my recent RfA, which unfortunately did not pass with a final tally of (45/39/9). I plan on addressing the concerns raised and working to improve in the next several months. Special thanks go to MBisanz, GT5162, and MC10 for nominating me. Thanks again, -download ׀ sign! 03:55, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

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