Template talk:Daredevil (TV series)

Born Again

This might be a bad idea, but perhaps we should have this navbox cover both the Netflix series and Born Again. InfiniteNexus (talk) 17:09, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

I think we need to wait and see how connected the two are, if it's a reboot with some elements returning, or truly a "season 4" situation. Currently, it seems to be the former so I'd say no, but if it's the latter, I'd say possibly. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 17:18, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

I'd be iffy if we were to combine these two now given we don't know the extent of their relation to one another outside of the title and only two actors thus far. If they are more connected and Born Again carries over the storyline from the first series, then that might be an option to consider. Trailblazer101 (talk) 18:56, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

One of the reasons I brought this up is because of the character articles. With Bernthal now coming back for Born Again, a separate navbox for that series would mean at least five duplicate links (Matt, Frank, the Netflix series, She-Hulk, Echo, and possibly more). InfiniteNexus (talk) 19:29, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

I think we could lose She-Hulk and Echo from this template (in the long run) to help reduce the similar links. In theory, if Born Again releases weekly we will try to create individual articles, so I think its own template at that time would be worth it. I think at this time it still is a bit early to make this call. If it does seem like they should be combined, I think this would have to be renamed to Template:Daredevil in television or something similarly overarching. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 19:52, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

I agree that it is too early to make a call on just how connected these two are. As WP:Not everything needs a navbox, a combined navbox could be useful to reduce potentially two different navboxes for Daredevil series, dependent on the time and connections between the two beyond actors. For this template, I agree that the SH and Echo links could be removed down the road as readers looking for the Studios appearances can find them at the Studios-produced series article. Trailblazer101 (talk) 05:49, 8 March 2023 (UTC)

I'm fine if we wait, but I think simply changing the header to Daredevil and Daredevil: Born Again would suffice (versus renaming to Daredevil in television). InfiniteNexus (talk) 17:56, 8 March 2023 (UTC)

That would be a more suitable header, though the template name would obviously be "Daredevil in television" (which I think would be the best) or something else. Trailblazer101 (talk) 00:47, 9 March 2023 (UTC)

If we go with that title, we would have to include these articles as well, which I don't think is a good idea. It would be easier if we went with Template:Daredevil and Daredevil Born Again, or alternatively Template:Daredevil in the Marvel Cinematic Universe. InfiniteNexus (talk) 16:41, 9 March 2023 (UTC)

Mhm. That did not occur to me. With that in mind, I think Template:Daredevil (TV series) and Daredevil: Born Again would be best (the TV series distinction would help to add clarity) while the Daredevil in the MCU one could be a nice alternative. Trailblazer101 (talk) 17:05, 9 March 2023 (UTC)

I still think it's too soon, but this is what I image a combined infobox would look like:

- Favre1fan93 (talk) 20:58, 10 March 2023 (UTC)

That looks good to me. We should implement the template update once BA premieres and we have more content to go off of for the episode articles. Just to note, I don't think NWH (or Hawkeye for Fisk) should ever be included in this template. Trailblazer101 (talk) 21:09, 10 March 2023 (UTC)

Yeah, something like that. InfiniteNexus (talk) 00:56, 11 March 2023 (UTC)

I just thought this was interesting, but apparently {{Game of Thrones episodes}} also combines two shows' episodes into one navbox, so at least there's a precedent for that. InfiniteNexus (talk) 18:40, 24 June 2023 (UTC)

Good to know! Trailblazer101 (talk) 23:42, 24 June 2023 (UTC)