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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:38, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

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Shah Jahan II

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5x expanded by Royroydeb (talk). Self-nominated at 16:19, 23 March 2019 (UTC).

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: Done.

Overall: 5x expanded and nominated on time. The hook is boring. I understand it may not be easy to find an interesting hook here. I feel ALT1 that I proposed is slightly more interesting. Royroydeb let me know your thoughts on this. DBigXrayᗙ 08:06, 24 March 2019 (UTC)

Ok, I have no objection to the new hook. @DBigXray:. RRD (talk) 14:38, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
  • All right, ALT1 is good to go. striking ALT0. DBigXrayᗙ 16:34, 27 March 2019 (UTC)
  • @Royroydeb: I find the article too confusing to promote this hook. I understand that little is known of the detail of Shah Jahan II's life, but there is confusion and contradiction over which brother is older "Shah Jahan II suffered from tuberculosis just like his elder brother" and "He was eighteen months older than his brother Rafi ud-Darajat" and the second statement even used "years" before I thought I could clear up the confusion by substituting "months". Please check the article carefully and match it up with the article Rafi ud-Darajat. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:44, 21 April 2019 (UTC)
@Cwmhiraeth: Shah Jahan II is the older than Rafi-ud-Darajat. But inadvertently I wrote the opposite. However, I have now made the changes. Also Rafi-ud-Darajat article is neither FA nor GA. Moreover it is unsourced. So it cant be used as a "reference". RRD (talk) 10:23, 25 April 2019 (UTC)
  • Thank you. Replacing tick as per DBigXray's review. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 10:45, 25 April 2019 (UTC)
  • Hi, I came by to promote this, but I am confused by the wording of ALT1. Do you mean:
  • ALT1a: ... that despite being the emperor of India, Shah Jahan II's (pictured) food, visits, and meetings were decided by the powerful Sayyid brothers who had chosen him as the Mughal emperor?
  • But why are you calling him two kinds of emperor, Indian and Mughal? Could the hook be tightened? Perhaps something along the lines of:
  • ALT2: ... that Shah Jahan II's (pictured) food, visits, and meetings were decided by the powerful Sayyid brothers who had chosen him as the Mughal emperor? Yoninah (talk) 19:03, 27 April 2019 (UTC)
@Yoninah: @DBigXray: ALT2 is better. In international context, I dont think people are habituated with the historic Indian subcontinent being referred to as India only. Also, I think that emperor of India is not correct in international context. RRD (talk) 07:58, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
  • ok then. I am fine to go with the majority here. ALT 2 can proceed. DBigXrayᗙ 08:04, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
  • Restoring tick for ALT2 per DBigXray. Yoninah (talk) 20:35, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
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