Template:Did you know nominations/No. 7 Service Flying Training School RAAF

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The result was: promoted by Mentoz86 (talk) 12:58, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

No. 7 Service Flying Training School RAAF

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... that No. 7 Service Flying Training School RAAF graduated over 2,000 pilots under the Empire Air Training Scheme between 1941 and 1944?

Created/expanded by Ian Rose (talk). Self nom at 03:19, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

Reviewed: Wagner's Dream

The hook isn't referenced, as far as I can see. The article is big enough and new enough. Secretlondon (talk) 21:12, 2 June 2012 (UTC)

Tks for reviewing -- the hook is about a broad achievement rather than a specific incident, so its elements are referenced throughout the article:

Commencement date of 1941: No. 7 Service Flying Training School (No. 7 SFTS) was formed at RAAF Station Deniliquin, New South Wales, on 30 June 1941, and came under the control of Southern Area Command.[5]
Closing date of 1944 and 2,000+ graduates: No. 7 SFTS's final course of instruction commenced on 29 August 1944. On 16 December, the school was re-formed as the Advanced Flying and Refresher Unit (AFRU), by which time it had graduated 2,206 pilots. AFRU itself disbanded on 1 May 1946.[5]
Empire Air Training Scheme is described and referenced in detail in the first para under History. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 00:15, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

Sorry I didn't make myself clear. I was looking for a reference for the number. I presumed [5] was a reference for the disbanding. Secretlondon (talk) 09:37, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

You mean I did all that explaining for nothing...?! No, seriously, I'm just applying the convention that each citation is the source for all info that precedes it (up to the previous citation) -- I mean if you want [5] duplicated right after the 2,000 graduates sentence, okay, I guess I can always remove it after it's been on DYK... ;-) Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 13:35, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

It's the DYK rules! I am taking the figure to be the extraordinary fact, and hence a ref at the end of the para isn't good enough. Secretlondon (talk) 09:47, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

b) The hook fact must be cited in the article with an inline citation to a reliable source, since inline citations are used to support specific :statements in an article. The hook fact must have an inline citation right after it, since the fact is an extraordinary claim; citing the hook fact :at the end of the paragraph is not acceptable. (Note, "extraordinary" is used here to mean "out of the ordinary", not "exceptional to a very marked :extent.") Nominations are to be rejected if the claim made in the hook is not present in the source, or if the source is not a reliable source.

Okay, to cut to the chase, we'll put the [5] right after the graduates figure in the main body -- and that's it? Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 10:09, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

Yes, that's it. Secretlondon (talk) 00:09, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

Okay, done. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 00:22, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

As reference is offline. Secretlondon (talk) 11:07, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

Tks for your time. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 12:21, 7 June 2012 (UTC)