Template:Did you know nominations/Mary's Club

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The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 22:26, 27 May 2014 (UTC)

Mary's Club

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~~... that Mary's Club has featured performers such as Courtney Love (pictured) and Christine Jorgensen?~~

Reviewed: Not a self-nomination

Improved to Good Article status by Another Believer (talk). Nominated by Oceanh (talk) at 04:34, 25 May 2014 (UTC).

Article was promoted to GA yesterday and is well-written throughout. The Love claim is better attested that the Jorgensen claim; the latter is sourced but only to a claim by Vicki Keller. I think the hook needs some work: once you know that Mary's Club is a strip club, the fact that Courtney Love worked there is more interesting. The image is free but tangential to the hook; a hook emphasizing that Mary's Club is a strip club could include a picture of the building, and there are several available. As written the hook with the image gives the impression that Love performed at Mary's Club, which isn't accurate. Mackensen (talk) 19:42, 25 May 2014 (UTC)

Please also check for neutrality, close paraphrasing, and inline citations. See DYK Reviewing guide. Yoninah (talk) 11:30, 26 May 2014 (UTC)

The article is neutral and free of close paraphrasing to the extent that sources can be verified; offline back numbers of the Oregonian are accepted in good faith. The article well-referenced. Aside, I did all this the first time around but if DYK now requires explicit box-ticking I'm happy to do that. Mackensen (talk) 13:46, 26 May 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for the review. First a comment on the available pictures of the club's exterior; I think they are too promotional and should not be used for DYK. Due to the possible (suspected) misspelling "bought" instead of "brought", CL's role at the club appears confusing, but no doubt she was performing. What about

ALT1: ... that as a teenager, Courtney Love performed at Mary's Club in Portland, Oregon?

No promo picture please, and no mention of stripping in the hook. ALT1 is also supported in ref 1, albeit the citation is to ref 12. Oceanh (talk) 15:56, 26 May 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the response; passing. Mackensen (talk) 18:47, 26 May 2014 (UTC)

To help out the promoter, and to avoid confusion, please state which hook is preferred, and strike out the other one. Thanks. — Maile (talk) 12:57, 27 May 2014 (UTC)

I strike out the original hook, keeping ALT1 (per "... the [original] hook needs some work"). Oceanh (talk) 14:29, 27 May 2014 (UTC)