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- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: rejected by reviewer, closed by AirshipJungleman29 talk 16:08, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
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Deir ed Darb
![The facade of Deir ed Darb, a monumental Jewish tomb from the Second Temple period](http://up.wiki.x.io/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/12/Qarawat-Bani-Hassan-Deir-ad-Derb-094803.jpg/187px-Qarawat-Bani-Hassan-Deir-ad-Derb-094803.jpg)
The facade of Deir ed Darb, a monumental Jewish tomb from the Second Temple period
- ... that Deir ed Darb, Arabic for "monastery of the road", is in fact a Jewish monumental tomb dating to the Second Temple period?
- Source: Raviv D., 2013, "Magnificent Tombs from the Second Temple Period in Western Samaria - New Insights", In the Highland's Depth - Ephraim Range and Binyamin Research Studies, Vol. 3, Ariel-Talmon ,pp. 109-142. (Hebrew); Peleg-Barkat, Orit; Raviv (2019). "שלושה פריטים ארכיטקטוניים מן התקופה הרומית הקדומה מאזור הכפר קרוות בני חסן" (PDF). במעבה ההר. 9: 43–58; Palmer, H (1881). "The survey of western Palestine". p. 228.
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Created by Owenglyndur (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.
Owenglyndur (talk) 13:24, 22 May 2024 (UTC).
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- It appears that a paragraph uses content copied without attribution from Qarawat Bani Hassan
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Overall: Mariamnei (talk) 11:18, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Mariamnei: Did you mean to post a "maybe" status (purple slash) instead of an "again" status (red arrow)? The again status is for DYK that need another new reviewer, while the slash is for indicating that there is a concern with the article/nomination. Z1720 (talk) 23:27, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Z1720: Hey there! This DYK overall looks pretty good, but since it's my first time doing a DYK review, I thought it'd be better to get another view. What do you think? Mariamnei (talk) 18:32, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Mariamnei: Since you outlined some concerns above, I'll let the nominator, Owenglyndur, address them. Z1720 (talk) 19:57, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
- Hi, thank you for your comments and help to get the DYK right. I did not know i'm not allowed to copy some sentances from another Wikipedia article, especialy whemn it is so relevant for the article i wrote. I will not do it again in the future. Owenglyndur (talk) 07:18, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
- Hey @Owenglyndur:, thanks for explaining that! Awesome, I see the pic is up on the article too. Looks like we're good to go!
Mariamnei (talk) 08:39, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
- Hey @Owenglyndur:, thanks for explaining that! Awesome, I see the pic is up on the article too. Looks like we're good to go!
- Hi, thank you for your comments and help to get the DYK right. I did not know i'm not allowed to copy some sentances from another Wikipedia article, especialy whemn it is so relevant for the article i wrote. I will not do it again in the future. Owenglyndur (talk) 07:18, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Mariamnei: Since you outlined some concerns above, I'll let the nominator, Owenglyndur, address them. Z1720 (talk) 19:57, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Z1720: Hey there! This DYK overall looks pretty good, but since it's my first time doing a DYK review, I thought it'd be better to get another view. What do you think? Mariamnei (talk) 18:32, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
- Just a question; the article refers to a "Dar" ("Dar - late 70's", "in Dar's opinion", "led Dar to conclude that"), but I cannot find any reference to any "Dar"?, cheers, Huldra (talk) 22:51, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
- Also, it would have been nice to wikilink the SWP authors (Palmer, Conder, Kitchener) -and the page-links. Also; isn't the 3 and 7 references the same (except the page-no)? Why then is one marked in Hebrew, while the other is not? Also ref.3 has a red warning: "Cite journal requires journal=", cheers, Huldra (talk) 23:01, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
- Hi, as i wrote in an earlier comment by you, i added Dar to the citations. Further more if you look at the citations you can see that Conder, Claude Reignier; Kitchener, Horatio Herbert; Palmer, Edward Henry; Besant, Walter, show In citation 7.
- I still cannot see any Dar in the citations. Also, nowhere have you linked Claude Reignier Conder, Herbert Kitchener, 1st Earl Kitchener, Edward Henry Palmer,etc, Huldra (talk) 22:27, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
- Hi, as i wrote in an earlier comment by you, i added Dar to the citations. Further more if you look at the citations you can see that Conder, Claude Reignier; Kitchener, Horatio Herbert; Palmer, Edward Henry; Besant, Walter, show In citation 7.
- @Owenglyndur, Mariamnei, and Huldra: Just to say I don't intend on promoting this while there is a {{clump}} in the lead section - which by rights shouldn't have any references in the first place.--Launchballer 08:06, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- Hi, i think i solved the Clump issue. To remove all citations from the lead?— Preceding unsigned comment added by Owenglyndur (talk • contribs)
- Technically compliant with that policy, however you now have a {{which?}} template which needs rectifying before this can be promoted.--Launchballer 13:22, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
- There is at least one instance of a copyright violation as detailed on the article's talk page. It may be restricted to the specified text but I have not fully investigated so more may be effected. Until that is resolved the article should not appear in DYK. Richard Nevell (talk) 20:20, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
Richard Nevell thanks for notifying this problem. I have just checked the first paragraph of "The main tomb" subsection—it is all WP:CLOP from Raviv 2013. I'm rejecting this nomination and tagging the article for CLOP. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 16:08, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
- There is at least one instance of a copyright violation as detailed on the article's talk page. It may be restricted to the specified text but I have not fully investigated so more may be effected. Until that is resolved the article should not appear in DYK. Richard Nevell (talk) 20:20, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
- Technically compliant with that policy, however you now have a {{which?}} template which needs rectifying before this can be promoted.--Launchballer 13:22, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
- Hi, i think i solved the Clump issue. To remove all citations from the lead?— Preceding unsigned comment added by Owenglyndur (talk • contribs)
I just realised; the artickle has the cats Tombs in Israel and Archaeological sites in Israel(!!) Neeedless to say(?), the place is not in Israel. If the author makes another such error, I will ask for a topic-ban from the IP area. Huldra (talk) 20:41, 17 June 2024 (UTC)