Talk:Zoe Hobbs

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Likely fastest equal ever in the Southern Hemisphere

Hobb's 10.97 in Sydney on 11 March 2023 could well be the equal fastest 'wind-legal' 100m ever run by a woman in the Southern Hemisphere. Christine Mboma ran 10.97 (+1.8w) at altitude at the Gaborone Int'l Mtg in Gaborone, Botswana, last year. Brazilian Rosângela Santos ran 10.91 (-0.2w) at the World Champs in 2017, but that was in London. There's no indication any sub-equatorian African has run faster than Mboma or Zoe. It's possible someone, such as Santos, has run faster in Sth America but that won't have been at the Sth American Athletics Championships for which the record is 11.17 set in 1999 by Lucimar Aparecida de Moura (again at altitude. See List of South American Championships in Athletics records) Craigmac41 (talk) 23:50, 11 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It's trivia, and should not be mentioned in the article unless reliably sourced. DerbyCountyinNZ ^{(Talk Contribs)} 23:54, 11 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

That commentary is reliably sourced and in context eg. "It's possible someone, such as Santos, has run faster in Sth America but that won't have been at the Sth American Athletics Championships." I doubt any one has run faster than 10.97 in sub-equatorial Africa based on the research I did.

eta: Rosângela Santos's 10.91 at the 2017 World Champs is, according to her World Athletics profie, the only time in her career she dipped under 11.00.

Some people might dispute whether it's trivia. Craigmac41 (talk) 05:17, 12 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You should probably read WP:TRIVIA, WP:RS and WP:OR. DerbyCountyinNZ ^{(Talk Contribs)} 06:13, 12 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Diamond League

Zoe ran in the Doha [first] leg of the 2023 Diamond League 'season' on 5 May 2023 (running 11.07 (+0.9) to finish fifth) [1]https://worldathletics.org/competitions/diamond-league/calendar-results/7172922/result.

Many have said this was her Diamond Legue debut, but she had run in the 2022 Paris leg of the Diamond League on 18 Jun 2022 (running 11.10 (+0.5) to finish 6th, 11 days after she had lowered her PB to 11.09 (+0.8) at the Oceania Championships) [2]https://worldathletics.org/competitions/diamond-league/calendar-results/7153970/result Craigmac41 (talk) 04:38, 14 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

fwiw, Hobbs ran two other 2023 Diamond League races before the end of July: Laussanne, 30 June, finishing 5th; and Silesia, 16 July, finishing 7th.

2022 Commonweath Games 100m Final place

The athlete who finished in 5th place in the 100m final, Nzubechi Grace Nwokocha, one place above Hobbs, has been provisionally suspended for the use of banned substances according to two news sources; one of which, the BBC, has said her 2022 Commonwealth Games results have been expunged. So Zoe will have been upgraded to 5th from 6th: provisionally, at least. [3]https://www.bbc.com/sport/athletics/66202427 and https://www.reuters.com/lifestyle/sports/commonwealth-gold-medallist-nwokocha-provisionally-suspended-doping-2022-09-03/ Craigmac41 (talk) 08:36, 1 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Indoor v Outdoor Records no longer (?)

World Athletics have stated they intend "to introduce the new term 'short track' to replace the current term 'indoor' to describe events and performances that are set on a 200m track, traditionally staged indoors." A proposed new record list is:

50m
60m
100m
200m
200m sh
400m
400m sh
etc.

Which might well mean that Hobbs' 60m indoor records just become '60m records' (there are no NZ, Oceania or even Australian women's 60m outdoor records listed, but there are for men) +/- her and other athletes' 60m PBs

See [4]https://worldathletics.org/news/press-releases/creation-short-track-athletics-records Craigmac41 (talk) 03:25, 10 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]