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Content for deletion

I don't want to delete unilaterally in the middle of an AfD, but here's parts I would remove:

"The youngest known person to fly in space was Gherman Titov, who was 25 years old on Vostok 2,[2][3] so children have not gone into space, nor any parent with their children in the same crew. The closest example is probably Richard Garriott, who flew into space, and is the son of Owen K. Garriott, who flew on Skylab 3 and the Space Shuttle mission STS-9. The first married couple to fly in space together were N. Jan Davis and Mark C. Lee who both served as mission specialists aboard Endeavour on STS-47 in September 1992.[4]" Sounds off-topic. Rolf H Nelson (talk) 22:30, 1 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Done I just finished a major copy-edit, which included moving some of this info to more appropriate articles and deleting some. — Molly-in-md (talk) 21:47, 28 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

"After the flight, one milk producer published advertisements featuring pictures of mothers and children in spacesuits.[12]" Sounds like trivia. Rolf H Nelson (talk) 22:30, 1 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

No action This was already gone when I copy-edited this article. — Molly-in-md (talk) 21:47, 28 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move

The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the proposal was moved. There's no opposition to this move, and a merge is best left to another discussion, ideally with notifications for all AfD participants. --BDD (talk) 23:49, 26 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Mothers in space → Women in space – Per recent AFD, several people called for moving this to Women in space, as a broader topic article. I don't see a need to separate out the issue of "mothers" in space from "women" in space; motherhood, which hasn't yet happened in space, could be covered as a subtopic of the broader article on women in space. Obi-Wan Kenobi (talk) 00:51, 8 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Support - broader subject. In ictu oculi (talk) 11:51, 8 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Merge the study section with Effect of spaceflight on the human body and send the rest to List of female astronauts. I'm not sure how much content there would be on female astronauts beyond a list with a historical section - which we already have - and maybe a brief discussion of equality issues. I'm not convinced an entire article is needed. --W. D. Graham 13:37, 8 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Support, though the study section could be merged as WDGraham suggests. I think the topic of women in space is clearly notable enough for an article, not just a list of female astronauts. Neljack (talk) 03:05, 15 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Merge as specified by User:WDGraham. This article is essentially about two unrelated topics: women in space and the effect of spaceflight on pregnancy. I don't think the women topic warrants more than is already at List of female astronauts, and the pregnancy part could certainly be housed at Effect of spaceflight on the human body. — Amakuru (talk) 12:28, 16 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
PS - there's actually a third, also unrelated, topic in here: that of the effect of spaceflight on family relationships. But that is not unique to mothers, it can apply to fathers too, and probably is best covered in Spaceflight or a direct subtopic. — Amakuru (talk) 12:32, 16 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Motherhood in Orbit and 'Childrearing'

I see this used to be a separate article, but it seems excessive (particularly at this length) as part of the body of the 'Women in Space' article. There is no corresponding article or section anywhere on 'fatherhood in space' or 'parenthood in space'. The information contained is quite basic, at first a list of people in space who happened to be mothers (again, there is no corresponding list for men in other articles). The citations provided for the 'Family Relationships' section are not academic but are rather discussions in popular media of women astronauts who have children. This sentence - "Human mothers in space face a number of challenges related to managing family life and spaceflight" - seems equally applicable to men, and the challenges are not outlined in the text.

Similarly, the 'disasters' section seems to belong in an article about disasters in space, since it does not seem to pertain to women in particular.

The first paragraph of the 'Childrearing' section is about lactation. The second paragraph has nothing to do with women, it is about children in space. Suggest this whole part could be taken out, since the study on lactation does not pertain sufficiently to humans. Sansculotte93 (talk) 17:59, 8 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I'm going to dissolve this section and the content that makes sense here elsewhere. For example while the losses can be mentioned, they don't belong under "motherhood", and women that were not mothers also died. The mere fact that someone is a mother or parent doesn't have encyclopaedic value, and is mostly unrelated to spaceflight. If the public has particular expectations, we can mention that -- but it doesn't deserve it's own paragraph. Averell (talk) 19:59, 4 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject Spaceflight review

A large number of citations are bare urls, address this.

Done Expanded a number of bare URLs and collapsed duplicates. — Molly-in-md (talk) 19:04, 7 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Address other citation errors (such as the access date and work error).

Done Fixed two citations to remove errors. — Molly-in-md (talk) 19:14, 7 January 2017 (UTC). —[reply]

Canada section has a sentence that is 'The'.

Done Removed as part of light copy-editing. — Molly-in-md (talk) 19:23, 7 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

'See also List of microorganisms tested in outer space)' should not be where it is, same as See Mercury Seven (and any others like that).

Done Troublesome links were moved in-line or removed. — Molly-in-md (talk) 19:29, 7 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Quote box not used right in radiation section.

Done Summarized the box's contents in the paragraph and removed it. The box itself took up a lot of space, didn't add anything major to the article, became awkwardly worded when the embedded quotation was shortened, and didn't have the right attribution anyway. — Molly-in-md (talk) 19:45, 7 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Gave a no for coverage and accuracy since not all space programs with female astronauts are listed in the article.

The intro is not worded very well.

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Remove Picture by section marked deaths

I think the picture besides death (The crew STS-51-L Judith A Resnik and Christa McAuliffe) is wrong.
That is a picture of Barbra Morgan who was Christa McAuliffe back up. This is not a picture of Judith Resnik

Thank you2600:1700:CAB0:C9F0:58CF:777C:41A8:EFE6 (talk) 17:43, 13 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I changed the image, but would be great to find some public domain source with this one. Erick Soares3 (talk) 15:03, 27 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Move "Pregnancy" to "Sex in space"?

Hi there, I find it a bit misplaced to elaborate pregnancy in space here instead of at Sex in space, so I suggest a move or an own article. Particularly because pregnancy is not only an issue of women. What do you think? Nsae Comp (talk) 05:11, 27 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]