Talk:Wikipedia logo

This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the Wikipedia logo article.
This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject.

Put new text under old text. Click here to start a new topic.
New to Wikipedia? Welcome! Learn to edit; get help.

Article policies

Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL

Archives: 1

This article was nominated for deletion. Please review the prior discussions if you are considering re-nomination:

keep, 13 August 2012, see discussion.
no consensus, 22 May 2010, see discussion.
no consensus, 1 June 2006, see discussion.

Brands Mid‑importance

	This article is within the scope of WikiProject Brands, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of brands on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.BrandsWikipedia:WikiProject BrandsTemplate:WikiProject BrandsBrands articles
Mid	This article has been rated as Mid-importance on the project's importance scale.

Internet culture Mid‑importance

This article is within the scope of WikiProject Internet culture, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of internet culture on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Internet cultureWikipedia:WikiProject Internet cultureTemplate:WikiProject Internet cultureInternet culture articles

Mid

This article has been rated as Mid-importance on the project's importance scale.

WikiProject Internet culture To-do:

Here are some tasks awaiting attention:

Article requests : View all requested internet culture articles
Expand : Pick an article from here or here
Photo : Category:Internet culture articles needing images
Stubs : All stubs are located here
Other : Category:Internet self-classification codes (!?); Try to get YouTube to FA; Tag all articles you find with {{WikiProject Internet culture}}
- See also Category:Internet culture articles needing attention

Visual arts

This article is within the scope of WikiProject Visual arts, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of visual arts on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Visual artsWikipedia:WikiProject Visual artsTemplate:WikiProject Visual artsvisual arts articles

Websites: Computing Low‑importance

	This article is part of WikiProject Websites, an attempt to create and link together articles about the major websites on the web. To participate, you can edit the article attached to this page, or visit the project page.WebsitesWikipedia:WikiProject WebsitesTemplate:WikiProject WebsitesWebsites articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the importance scale.
	This article is supported by WikiProject Computing.

Wikipedia Top‑importance

	This article is within the scope of WikiProject Wikipedia, a collaborative effort to improve Wikipedia's encyclopedic coverage of itself. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page. Please remember to avoid self-references and maintain a neutral point of view, even on topics relating to Wikipedia.WikipediaWikipedia:WikiProject WikipediaTemplate:WikiProject WikipediaWikipedia articles
Top	This article has been rated as Top-importance on the project's importance scale.

Omega letter;

All letters are used in Wikipedia transliteration (maybe some letters aren't the first letter, but still they are in the transliterations) apart from Ω. This letter isn't used at all in the greek transliteration (Βικιπαίδεια). I can only guess that the first attempts to tranlate wikipedia in greek would be ℧ικιπαίδεια=Ουικιπαίδεια a minor transliteration that isn't used. (℧ was used as ου some decades ago in greek alphabet but it is obsolete nowadays). If we want to represent the first letters of some languages then we sould replace Ω with Β. --Περίεργος (talk) 07:23, 27 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

This isn't really the right place for such a discussion. This page is for discussing the contents of the article about the Wikipedia logo. You might want to head over to http://meta.wikimedia.org for general multi-wiki discussions like this. Powers ^T 15:06, 27 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

@LtPowers and Περίεργος: (Dead horse department) My guess is that omega was used because lowercase omega (ω) strongly resembles a "w", although the capital letter does not. --Thnidu (talk) 22:29, 18 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

A good guess, but probably not correct. An effort was made to be accurate linguistically, not just visually. Powers ^T 00:59, 19 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I have just added something to this Talk in the section about the Cyrillic letter И in the logo, but I guess you’re right that such things should be discussed elsewhere. Only, I can’t find my way to an appropriate place with the link given here. Anything more specific, please? --Geke (talk) 22:23, 9 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I chose the characters in question when making the logo, and in some cases I chose characters that represent a "W" or "wi" sound, but in other cases (specifically with Greek and Cyrillic) I chose characters that were distinctive and evocative of that writing system rather than characters that represent the name of Wikipedia. I have described this elsewhere and it is why a proposal to change to Greek Β or Cyrillic В is a bad design idea and contrary to the intent of the logo. Nohat (talk) 16:47, 11 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Death Star II – The missing pieces

The article doesn't mention similarities to the Death Star at all but it's worth noting that there are currently over 8,000 Google search results for <"wikipedia logo" "death star">. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.219.176.153 (talk) 10:46, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Linux Libertine

The article says that the logo uses the Linux Libertine typeface, but this is not true. We can all see that the "W" in "WIKIPEDIA" is crossing, but the W in Linux Libertine does not cross. (I can upload a screenshot or anyone can download it if they don't have it already and see for themselves.) I'm not sure actually what typeface is used in the logo, but it looks to be some type of Garamond. Definitely not Linux Libertine though. -Helvetica (talk) 15:58, 12 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

From http://www.linuxlibertine.org/index.php?id=2&L=1,

With the latest design change, Wikipedia also introduced a new logo with a new font face: LinuxLibertine.

The Wikimedia Usability Initiative chose the Libertine font because of its OpenSource maxim, the large number of covered languages and special characters and the classical elegant style. But at first one detail seemed to be an obstacle: The crossed form of the letter W had always been a distinctive part of the Wikipedia brand. However, the Libertine's W was uncrossed. The solution was simple: The Libertine Open Fonts Project designed a crossed form of its W and and now provides it as optional opentype feature in Linux Libertine.

A short manual helps wikipedia members to localize the logo into 250 different languages.

Nohat (talk) 22:51, 15 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The above text is referenced already, all that was needed was moving of one reference, which I have since done. This could have been done just about as quickly as tagging with dubious, and certainly much quicker than adding a new section on the talk page. Nick (talk) 17:57, 17 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Correct, the "W" in the wordmark isn't actually a "W" character. It's the character  (U+e02f) rendered in Linux Libertine. Kaldari (talk) 00:44, 21 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

How it was produced is irrelevant to what it is. It is a W character. Nohat (talk) 17:43, 21 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

3D model

Hi everyone, is there any open 3D model that can directly be used for 3D printing the the Wikipedia logo? --Arnd (talk) 15:14, 29 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Aschroet: I found linked from https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Wikimedia_official_marks/About_the_official_Marks#Wikipedia_puzzle_globe this page: https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/File:Wikipedia_puzzle_globe_3D_render.zip which has blender files. And from http://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_logos#3D_versions this page: https://github.com/slashme/WikipediaGlobePrintable which has thicker pieces, non-overlapping edges and smoother surface; also has STL files. Opencooper (talk) 21:24, 29 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you Opencooper. --Arnd (talk) 10:24, 2 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Coat of arms of Wikipedia?

Logo's presentation

The Wikipedia logo is not presented on pages when using the MinevaNeua, Modern, and Timeless skins, and, as the official logo of the project, it probably should be. Its size can be adjusted to fit the flow of the skin, but as Wikipedia's official logo and explanatory visual metaphor it would be appropriate to show it on all skins. Maybe someone can ping those who can make the decision to show it, or would a full RfC or Village Pump discussion be the way to go (wanted to bring this here first for comments, as this may have been fully addressed before). Thanks. Randy Kryn (talk) 11:33, 4 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

New image

I found this image:

Where do I put it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by commuter3 (talk • contribs)

Nowhere. There's a Commons category to collect such images, commons:Category:Wikipedia logo variants. Added. Nemo 08:14, 20 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Uhhhhh, what image? Doesn't show up for me. I'm going to check my settings. WikiMic (talk) 01:16, 31 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Video

Nimish Gautam explains design changes to the Wikipedia puzzle globe in 2012

Victor Grigas (talk) 02:44, 12 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Logo Change

Wikipedia logo of http://fa.wiki.x.io/ is changed by somebody? Was this act authorized? Would somebody please change it back to the original logo? --Idris, the wise (talk) 06:57, 18 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

wikipedia pages in Ge'ez and Tibetan languages

i am unable to find any such wikipedia page i did search in http://www.wiki.x.io/ - read wikipedia in your language, but did not find am i mistaken? Kuruvillareji (talk) 17:52, 14 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Short description

AlexBalder01, you reverted my edit when I added short description to the article. Before you reverted my edit, I asked what was the reason for reverting. Can you explain why you reverted my edit? Short Description «None» should be on the list articles. This article is not a list. 195.5.3.58 (talk) 16:13, 27 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The article is also not about "Logo of the free online encyclopedia" – The Grid (talk) 19:46, 2 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with you, but Wikipedia is a free online encyclopedia, right? I didn't add a short description "Logo of Wikipedia" since the article is already called "Wikipedia logo". That's why I added the short description "Logo of the free online encyclopedia". And also, short description "none" should be on list articles. This article is not a list. 195.5.3.58 (talk) 14:37, 4 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know where you got the idea that no short description applies to only lists. Per WP:SDNONE, article titles that are sufficiently detailed do not need a short description. – The Grid (talk) 13:21, 12 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Sound Logo

The Wikimedia sound logo is here: File:Wikimedia Sound Logo Finalist VQ97.wav , this is supposed to be a sonic logo for all projects. Victor Grigas (talk) 18:19, 13 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Paul Stansifer

File:Paul Stansifer at the Wikimedia Foundation in front of the Wikipedia Puzzle Globe Logo.jpg This image exists in case its useful Victor Grigas (talk) 14:09, 16 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Contest and "improval"??

I didn't think "improval" was a real word, but Wiktionary says it's non-standard for "improvement". Shouldn't we stick to WP:FORMAL here? Muzilon (talk) 09:24, 17 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

French logo colour

In the section "second logo", the following text, supposedly describing the French logo, "golden (yellow) circle with a white dove" is placed directly below an image showing a green circle with a white dove, with the image caption claiming to depict the French logo. This is at the very least confusing, but likely it's wrong. --95.89.78.72 (talk) 00:54, 12 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed Janhrach (talk) 08:44, 30 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Overly detailed?

@Mach61: Why do you consider this article overly detailed? I would agree that the section on secondary logos is, but as for the rest, I disagree. Janhrach (talk) 18:39, 18 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The {{overly detailed}} tag is an extension of the {{primary sources}} tag; for example, the entire anniversary section is sourced only to primary sources, making it impossible to gauge what the scope of this article is if not every single update to the logo discussed on a Wikimedia blog Mach61 (talk) 18:45, 18 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, I agree with you on this section. Janhrach (talk) 18:51, 18 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Arabic letter "yaa"

The arabic letter ya is described as a "Yodh", which is actually a hebrew letter. It would be better to say "ya", which is what it's actually called in arabic, since "yodh" is more a general terms for a series of letters which all descended from an older script. http://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/Yodh#Arabic_y%C4%81%CA%BC Taiyaki Schizo (talk) 16:09, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia logo font?

It's definitely not this default font hypersilly ^(talk) 12:46, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Gothic vinja vs Gothic winja

Why is it Gothic vinja and not Gothic winja? Is this a typo? I'm not sure.