Talk:Widsith

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Historicallly? and we?

This articel states in following sentence: Historically, we know that one speaker could not travel to see all of these nations in one lifetime. What Historically facts is this based on? Shouldn't this be backed up by other travel descriptions from the same time period desputing the possibility what is described as impossible in the poem? Secondly who is we ? Is we one person, a small group, or a general opinion? If so is there other opinions? Is we and Historically overstating the opinion? Beowolf53 (talk) 14:40, 22 May 2011 (UTC)beowolf53[reply]

Eormanric an Ostrogoth?

Don't the first historical references to Austrogoti, in the Historia Augusta and Claudian, date to the end of the 4th century, after the death of Ermaneric? Off the top of my head, I think Ammianus refers to Ermaneric, but as a Greuthung, not an Ostrogoth. 96.255.9.115 (talk) 00:49, 2 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Long poem or short?

Widsith should either be italicized or enclosed in quotation marks throughout the article, depending on whether it's considered a long poem or a short one. Does anyone have thoughts on which it is? Revirvlkodlaku (talk) 13:47, 6 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Translation

The translation here is very inaccurate and made by someone with little knowledge of Old English. I will try to fix it but I'd appreciate if someone else with knowledge of the language can control. Mårtensås (talk) 18:43, 9 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Removal of translation and original text

I removed the translation and entire original text some time ago. This was recently reverted by an IP. As I said the first time "it's unsourced, much too long of a quote, and still full of WP:Easter egg links. Readers can find the original text elsewhere online or in a print book, that's not what we're here for." I stand by this statement. Indeed, Mårtensås commented on the English translation being bad in 2022 - but we can't do it ourselves! Let our readers find a copy of the poem, including free on the internet, but Wikipedia is not supposed to host long original quotes and unsourced translations of them.--Ermenrich (talk) 21:24, 7 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Now there is some kind of a citation, but is the source reliable and is it now a copyright violation? Jähmefyysikko (talk) 12:46, 8 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The source is new. It appears to be from a recent published translation, so definitely a violation. The IP hasn’t addressed any of the other points I’ve made here.—-Ermenrich (talk) 13:09, 8 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Looks to me like Widsither addressed most or all of your concerns, though I have no comment on the quality or copyright status of the translation.

I think the article will be more useful with the poem text and its translation included. Having it at the end doesn't disrupt the article flow, or present any problems, in my opinion. I think it's a valid contribution. One certainly can conceive of a poem that would be considered too long to include entirely. My own view is that 134 lines is not too long.

I would note that the full text of Jabberwocky is on its page. Granted, it's shorter but is still a "long original quote".

Another example of including the full, actual content of the work that the article is about is code pages. Here are three examples, but there are dozens: ISO/IEC 8859-3, Code page 1124, Code page 1016.

Davemc0 (talk) 07:52, 9 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]