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[edit]I just added Category:Lesbian-related television programs to the article. I repeat here what I wrote in my summary:
- How is it possible that an article about a TV series that has been described by multiple sources with the word "Lesbian" has no content about it? The mother was a lesbian. The "widower" is a lesbian. The daughters are lesbians. Other characters are lesbians. How about starting with, for example, The New Starz Series Vida is Bringing Lesbian Latin Representation to TV.
Or another source also on the web: New Lesbian Show Vida Premiers Soon. Or “VIDA” Teaser Has Everything: Butch Lesbians, Queer Latinas, Post-Mortem Lesbian Revelations. Or “Vida” is Exactly as Good as You Expected. Or The Making of Vida’s ‘Radical’ Queer Sex Scene. Pyxis Solitary yak 09:40, 13 August 2018 (UTC)
- @Pyxis Solitary: I suppose I'll comment here. I created the article and have been one of the primary contributors to it since its creation. Let me make it clear that there has been no deliberate attempt to avoid mentioning lesbians in this article, certainly not by me. Not that it should matter (as I think you don't need to personally know LGBTQ people to support them) but I have a gay uncle on my mother's side and a gay uncle on my father's so I have been raised very tolerant and accepting especially towards that community. Anyways, I certainly support the continued expansion of the article from as many editors as possible and my hope would be that their contributions continue to make it as accurate and informative as possible. So, by all means, please update the article and we can figure how to best integrate such information where it is most appropriate. Sincerely, BoogerD (talk) 17:57, 13 August 2018 (UTC)
- @BoogerD: You were not singled out. No one was. In general, editors forgetting (and in some instances, deliberately ignoring) the inclusion of narrative about L, G, B characters and elements in a TV series is a systemic problem in Wikipedia. And you will find, as I have, that when editors know enough about a series to add one or more LGBT categories to their articles but the articles don't contain material about LGBT ... a disputant editor will delete said categories and use the lack of content about LGBT as the reason. Pyxis Solitary yak 08:01, 14 August 2018 (UTC)
- @Pyxis Solitary: I never felt singled out. I merely saw that you had posted a message on the talk page, felt that a worthwhile point was being made, and wanted to express to you that someone out there was listening. By the way, I think it would be highly appropriate to expound upon the show's LGBT themes in both character sections and episode summaries. – BoogerD (talk) 08:14, 14 August 2018 (UTC)
- @BoogerD: Glad to know you did not feel that I was pointing a finger in your direction. :-) I think we're both on the same page. Pyxis Solitary yak 08:32, 14 August 2018 (UTC)
- @Pyxis Solitary: I agree, I think we are both on the same page here. Honestly, this is one of my favorite parts of Wikipedia. Those rare moments when editors just agree on things and really seem to be interested in achieving similar purposes. Haha. I will definitely savor this moment. – BoogerD (talk) 08:37, 14 August 2018 (UTC)
- @BoogerD: I'm definitely adding special tobacco to my pipe now. Pyxis Solitary yak 09:04, 14 August 2018 (UTC)
- @Pyxis Solitary:Happy to hear that you can recognize one of these rare moments too. God, I don't know how many long and drawn-out debates I've gotten in over the last few days over such minutiae. Just like little unimportant things and I've gone and devoted so much time to discussing them. And here we are on this talk page discussing something actually important and, low and behold, a long debate isn't necessary. Funny how things work out. ;) – BoogerD (talk) 09:34, 14 August 2018 (UTC)
- @BoogerD: I'm definitely adding special tobacco to my pipe now. Pyxis Solitary yak 09:04, 14 August 2018 (UTC)
- @Pyxis Solitary: I agree, I think we are both on the same page here. Honestly, this is one of my favorite parts of Wikipedia. Those rare moments when editors just agree on things and really seem to be interested in achieving similar purposes. Haha. I will definitely savor this moment. – BoogerD (talk) 08:37, 14 August 2018 (UTC)
- @BoogerD: Glad to know you did not feel that I was pointing a finger in your direction. :-) I think we're both on the same page. Pyxis Solitary yak 08:32, 14 August 2018 (UTC)
- @Pyxis Solitary: I never felt singled out. I merely saw that you had posted a message on the talk page, felt that a worthwhile point was being made, and wanted to express to you that someone out there was listening. By the way, I think it would be highly appropriate to expound upon the show's LGBT themes in both character sections and episode summaries. – BoogerD (talk) 08:14, 14 August 2018 (UTC)
- @BoogerD: You were not singled out. No one was. In general, editors forgetting (and in some instances, deliberately ignoring) the inclusion of narrative about L, G, B characters and elements in a TV series is a systemic problem in Wikipedia. And you will find, as I have, that when editors know enough about a series to add one or more LGBT categories to their articles but the articles don't contain material about LGBT ... a disputant editor will delete said categories and use the lack of content about LGBT as the reason. Pyxis Solitary yak 08:01, 14 August 2018 (UTC)
- @Pyxis Solitary: I suppose I'll comment here. I created the article and have been one of the primary contributors to it since its creation. Let me make it clear that there has been no deliberate attempt to avoid mentioning lesbians in this article, certainly not by me. Not that it should matter (as I think you don't need to personally know LGBTQ people to support them) but I have a gay uncle on my mother's side and a gay uncle on my father's so I have been raised very tolerant and accepting especially towards that community. Anyways, I certainly support the continued expansion of the article from as many editors as possible and my hope would be that their contributions continue to make it as accurate and informative as possible. So, by all means, please update the article and we can figure how to best integrate such information where it is most appropriate. Sincerely, BoogerD (talk) 17:57, 13 August 2018 (UTC)
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