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BetacommandBot 18:50, 24 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Update?

Is there anyone out there knowledgeable enough to bring this article up to date? There seems to be nothing in it after October 2006, and it's like watching a TV show, being left with a cliffhanger, and wondering when the next season starts! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.17.154.153 (talk) 08:19, 1 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

DONE! ;-) DocOfSoc (talk) 00:14, 7 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

There some evidence that Vernon was created as a "dynasty" by the Leonis family and continues as Vernon is run by two families: the Malburgs and the Malkenhorsts, and has been for 50 years. Is anyone interested in exploring this part of the history? See [1] Very interesting reading. I plan to continue working on the article also. Thanks. DocOfSoc (talk) 03:17, 4 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

There is a huge untold story lurking here. DocOfSoc (talk) 07:21, 4 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The "city" of Vernon, ably described a few years back by L.A. County native Matt Welch, is California's Liechtenstein, a de facto grand duchy with a token population and multiple generations of single-family control.[2]

BTW, I swapped in a picture of a general who fought at La Mesa to replace the painting of the battle at Veracruz. Will Beback talk 07:14, 14 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

lbevans: I have a piece on the history of Vernon versus recent LA Times accounts at: www.shaggyman.com Take note on the "two families" issue: Vernon was founded by John B. Leonis and the Furlong brothers, James and Thomas. Those were the original two families. The Furlongs ended their connection with Vernon with the death of Mayor Robert Furlong (Thomas's son) in 1974. Thereafter Leonis Malburg, grandson of John Leonis, was mayor, and the Malkenhorsts enter the picture. It is fair to say that Malburg and Malkenhorst ran the city until 2009, but both of those families have now been removed, and in fact even city employees formerly loyal to them have been purged. Though many secondary figures carry over from the past the dominant figures in Vernon today go back only perhaps twenty years and have no connection to the founders or even to the Malkenhorsts, so there are no "two families" in charge of Vernon today. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lbevans (talk • contribs) 18:50, 7 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reorganization

The article suffers from "recentism" and has grown in a poorly organized fashion.

1 City status

1.1 Disincorporation legislation

2 History

3 Recent history

3.1 Elections of 2006

4 Corruption charges

5 Corruption and disincorporation campaign

5.1 Corruption allegations

As I see it, pretty much all of this material should be under "history", and should be arranged in chronological order. Also, some re-balancing may be needed to make sure that issues of only passing interest are not given excessive attention. Any other thoughts? Will Beback talk 17:07, 5 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I made a few changes but it's still a mess in need of an overhaul. --Junkyardsparkle (talk) 21:46, 22 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

91 percent Latino, or 52 percent non-hispanic white? Which is it?

In the demographics section, there are two contradictory and very different figures: in the body text it suggests that according to the Census, the city is 90-something percent white, including 52-percent non-hispanic white. In a table immediately below, it lists the city as among the most heavily latino in the state, at 91 percent.

91 percent latino, or 52 percent non-hispanic white? Which is it? Can't be both.jackbrown (talk) 22:11, 10 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

5 miles south of downtown LA?

The article starts off by saying that Vernon is 5 miles south of downtown LA, but on a map it looks more like 1-3 miles southeast of downtown. I think that was added on 4 March 2011 by DocOfSoc. --Kevinbsmith (talk) 19:53, 26 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Latino Communities section

Recommend eliminating the section on latino communities to improve the article. Any percentages of a tiny population of only 112 persons is unimportant. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 144.183.224.2 (talk) 00:37, 10 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Oak gum ball

I need a key. For my gumball stand how do I find the # 2601:482:0:3CE0:10C8:1831:DA1E:91AE (talk) 23:20, 22 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Public transportation

This interesting location deserves an item directing visitors to it via the LRT Blue Line and noting transfer points via bus connections to, say, City Hall. I'm an American writing from my longtime home in Western Europe, but I was instrumental in helping plan the Blue Line, as a supplier of barrier-free ticket-vending machines supplied by a highly qualified Swiss supplier firm. I'm think the Wikipedia should insert this item in keeping with its standard format. If public transit does not serve the city, the item should mention it. 178.197.239.3 (talk) 12:04, 19 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed Changes to Intro

* Specific text to be added or removed: Vernon is gateway city located five miles (8.0 km) southeast of downtown Los Angeles, California. At 5.2 square miles, the city is primarily industrial housing more than 1,800 businesses who employ approximately 55,000 people in the food and agriculture, apparel, steel, plastics, logistics and home furnishings industries. Vernon was founded in 1905 as the first exclusively industrial city in the Southwestern United States. At the 2020 census, the population of Vernon was 222.

* Reason for the change: Updating with relevant information

* References supporting change: http://www.laalmanac.com/cities/ci83.php

http://www.seecalifornia.com/california-cities/vernon.html

https://data.census.gov/all?q=Vernon%20city,%20California

https://lacre.net/wp/city-of-vernon-socals-first-exclusively-industrial-city/93/

~~~~ Jwalian (talk) 22:28, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I don't see how the article would be improved by inserting a link to Gateway Cities, which is a little-used term, and a relatively recent creation. The lower case term of "gateway city" is definitely NOT how Vernon is described in sources. Binksternet (talk) 23:11, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]