Talk:Växjö Cathedral

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March 5, 2021	Good article nominee	Listed

A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on January 21, 2021.

The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that according to legend, Växjö Cathedral in Sweden was founded by an English saint?

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Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by SL93 (talk) 19:30, 17 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Växjö Cathedral

... that according to legend, Växjö Cathedral (pictured) in Sweden was founded by an English saint? Source: Most obviously here (in Swedish)

Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/clouded leopard

5x expanded by Yakikaki (talk). Self-nominated at 13:36, 27 December 2020 (UTC).[reply]

Very good work! Expanded to more than five times its original length, turning the article from a stub to a well-referenced and very interesting article. The hook is also nice, and referenced in the article. QPQ is done, no copyvio. Applodion (talk) 14:12, 27 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

Passed. simongraham (talk) 08:27, 5 March 2021‎ (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

This review is transcluded from Talk:Växjö Cathedral/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Simongraham (talk · contribs) 17:25, 3 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

This looks a very interesting article. I will start a review shortly. simongraham (talk) 17:25, 3 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Review

The article is clearly written and covers an interesting topic. It is stable and 91.8% of authorship is one user, Yakikaki. It is currently ranked a B class article and is almost a Good Article..

The image of the statue of Saint Sigfrid by Peter Lind is listed as public domain but also notes that "reusing or linking to this file can have legal consequences." I therefore suggest removing it unless this can be resolved.

I have removed the picture, I didn't see the tag before – thanks for pointing it out!

The article follows MOS:IMAGE. However, multiple images are used in close proximity so there is a risk of MOS:SANDWICH. This may be resolved by removing the image of the statue.

Indeed, it's a bit less cramped now.

Please check that abbreviations are in compliance with MOS:MISCSHORT.

I couldn't find any problems about this, was there anything in particular you were thinking of?

The article has a good range of references, mainly from sources in Swedish. The cathedral is mentioned in Yates' Liturgical Space: Christian Worship and Church Buildings in Western Europe 1500-2000. Is there anything useful here?

I don't have access to this book, but managed to get a glimpse through innovative use of search terms. It seems that the cathedral is indeed mentioned in the book, but mainly in passing in the passages I could find. I honesly doubt that there would be much in there that isn't already in especially the monography on the cathedral by Gustafsson & Ullén.

@Yakikaki: Please ping me when you are ready for me to look again. simongraham (talk) 09:41, 4 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Simongraham: Hello! Thanks a lot for taking the time to review this article, and for the points above. I have tried to address them all, so far. Let me know what you think. Yakikaki (talk) 14:46, 4 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Yakikaki: Great work. I think that is everything. simongraham (talk) 08:22, 5 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Assessment

The six good article criteria:

It is reasonable well written
the prose is clear, concise, and understandable to an appropriately broad audience; spelling and grammar are correct

it complies with the Manual of Style guidelines for lead, layout and word choice.
It is factually accurate and verifiable
it contains a reference section, presented in accordance with the layout style guideline;

all inline citations are from reliable sources;

it contains no original research;

it contains no copyright violations nor plagiarism.
It is broad in its coverage
it addresses the main aspects of the topic;

it stays ffocused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail.
It has a neutral point of view
it represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to different points of view.
It is stable
it does not change significantly from day to day because of any ongoing edit war or content dispute.
It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
images are tagged with their copyright statuses, and valid fair use rationales are provided for non-free content;

images are (relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions.
Overall:
Congratulations. This article meets the criteria to be a Good Article.

Pass/Fail: -- simongraham (talk) 08:27, 5 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Missing information on the carillon

Hi @Yakikaki: I notice that this article is completely missing information on the 25-bell carillon built by Bergholtz [sv] in 1962 that is located within the building. Since you worked to get the article to GA, I thought I'd let you know. I only have one source that confirms this, which is from the Nordic Society for Campanology and Carillons:

"Svenske konsertklokkespill" [Swedish carillons]. Nordisk selskap for campanologi og klokkespill [Nordic Society for Campanology and Carillons] (in Norwegian). Retrieved 5 July 2022.

Would be great to see this important architectural fact be included in the article. Thrakkx (talk) 16:35, 5 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Thrakkx, thanks for the suggestions. I haven't found more info about this, and now I'm away from my books. If I found more sources, I will add something. Yakikaki (talk) 18:06, 14 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You may have a hard time looking. Often times information about carillons is scant; carillon owners rarely feel it necessary to include info on their website (and this cathedral is no exception). Your best bet is the Nordic Society and maybe newspapers discussing this particular instrument's installation. However difficult, I feel this article is incomplete without even just a one-sentence mention about the carillon. Thrakkx (talk) 18:13, 14 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

All right, you seem to know a lot about the subject so I'll take your word for it; I'll add a sentence here and in the article about Visby Cathedral as well. Thanks for pointing it out, very appreciated! Kind regards, Yakikaki (talk) 18:23, 14 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

By the way Thrakkx, did you know that the Swedish Nobel Laureate and poet Tomas Tranströmer wrote a very beautiful and complex poem about the ringing of a carillon? One of my favourite poems! Yakikaki (talk) 18:41, 14 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

No way; do share which poem! I don't know any Swedish so I am struggling to find the name of the poem. Counting on Google translate to actually read its contents. Thrakkx (talk) 18:56, 14 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I'm more than happy to! Actually, there's an English translation here. Hope you like it. It's one of his more complex poems, but at the end (when the carillon appears) it all comes together in a nice way. Enjoy! Yakikaki (talk) 19:01, 14 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]