Talk:Urban Homesteading Assistance Board
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Let's have the the constructive argument.
[edit]http://en.wiki.x.io/w/index.php?title=Urban_Homesteading_Assistance_Board&type=revision&diff=963971075&oldid=963896794 They are embroiled in scandals. How should that be written? Theochino (talk) 01:26, 30 October 2020 (UTC)
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[edit]In this edit I removed a bunch of material that was written in an argumentative and non-encyclopedic style. There were some sources included that I am listing here, in case someone finds they can be used in some more appropriate way in the article:
--JBL (talk) 16:44, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
- There is a scandal going on and this information need to be there. It's encyclopedic since Billions of Dollars were taken by this Non Profit. It's documented up to wazoo. Theochino (talk) 19:24, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
- Hi Theochino,
- The purpose of Wikipedia is to present a comprehensive, encyclopedic view of things. The text you've added is clearly not that; instead, you appear to be engaging in a form of advocacy, which is not appropriate (see Wikipedia:Advocacy). If you want to add negative material about an organization to WP, you need to do it with care for our basic principles like WP:V and WP:RS. Three of the four sources I removed look basically like blogs, and the fourth is a tabloid; these are extremely marginal sources for the kind of broad criticism you tried to add, and the language you used (
plagued with scandals
etc.) is not actually supported by them. I'd be happy to work with you to find a way to incorporate some content into the article, but it's not going to look like what you've written so far, I'm afraid. As a first step, what are the best sources you have available about UHAB (where "best" is in the sense of the guideline WP:RS on reliable sourcing)? --JBL (talk) 20:31, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
- HI JBL,
- The sources are not blogs but real periodicals (even accepted in News Reddit) .... This is New York City and calling the NY Post a tabloid is a disservice. They might be the last investigative newspaper in New York City.
- https://pix11.com/2018/12/11/new-yorkers-in-debt-losing-their-homes-as-part-of-program-designed-to-preserve-quality-affordable-housing/
- https://pix11.com/2018/11/27/hundreds-of-homeowners-in-nyc-have-been-defrauded-out-of-their-homes/
- https://www.nytimes.com/2001/04/02/nyregion/city-s-building-giveaway-prompts-council-inquiry.html
- https://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/ny-metro-third-party-transfer-carone-de-blasio-riseboro-20190527-xhyzyj2ksvgxbbqxocmasavf6y-story.html
- https://brooklyneagle.com/articles/2019/07/12/third-party-transfer-reforms/
- https://www.thecity.nyc/housing/2019/5/2/21211102/brooklyn-foreclosures-must-stick-city-lawyers-argue
- https://www.kingscountypolitics.com/court-cases-could-determine-third-party-transfer-programs-future/
Theochino (talk) 12:36, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
I would like to know what exactly is your problem with the section about documented negative information. This is just the premise of a bigger scandal that is ongoing. By removing a real story you are basically allowing corruption to go undocumented. I am willing to. There is something bigger and hundred of new source documented here: https://www.showthebooks.org/news/
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