Talk:USS Simon Bolivar

USS Simon Bolivar was nominated as a Warfare good article, but it did not meet the good article criteria at the time (December 29, 2016). There are suggestions on the review page for improving the article. If you can improve it, please do; it may then be renominated.

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This article has been checked against the following criteria for B-class status:
Referencing and citation: criterion not met Coverage and accuracy: criterion met Structure: criterion met Grammar and style: criterion met Supporting materials: criterion met

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Shipboard Life Onboard USS Simon Bolivar SSBN 641

This section of the article is inappropriate. It does not apply specifically to Simon Bolivar in that what is written there applies to US FBM submarines in general. The section reads like a memoir and is 'referenced' to with this claim: 'Attribution to crewmember of USS SIMON BOLIVAR (SSBN 641) GOLD'; hardly WP:RS and which smacks of WP:OR.

I deleted similar material when it was part of §Service history. Since then, editors 67.149.255.23 and T6985wsx have restored the deleted material in this new section. Because it is inappropriate in this article, because it is not supported by reliable sources, the section should be removed.

—Trappist the monk (talk) 13:12, 5 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:USS Simon Bolivar (SSBN-641)/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Nick-D (talk · contribs) 00:13, 29 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

There's much to like about this article, but I'm afraid that I need to quick-fail this GA nomination as its content is not referenced to reliable published sources: please see Good article criterion 3. Wikipedia articles cannot only be supported by the recollections of individuals with knowledge of the topic I'm afraid.

To help with developing the article to GA class, I'd also like to offer the following comments:

The lead should be expanded so that it provides a short summary of the sub's career
Please provide background on the context in which the sub was aquired (eg, that she was part of the Cold War build up of SSBNs)
Please move the explanation of what Blue and Gold crews are, and how the rotation of duties worked to where this is first mentioned in the article
"During Simon Bolivar's commissioned period she operated in the Atlantic and Mediterranean from three sites: Holy Loch, Scotland; Rota, Spain; and the continental United States, mainly Charleston, SC and Kings Bay, GA." - can the dates she changed home sites be provided?
Please use bullet points or similar to make indented text appear correctly (eg, to get rid of the grey boxes - this is an example of how to do this)
Did the routines and life aboard the submarine change across her lengthy career? Nick-D (talk) 00:27, 29 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]